pulling the motor

93GTDIN · 04-09-2002, 05:55 PM

how do I unbolt the engine from the tranny?

mean81GT · 04-09-2002, 08:55 PM

bellhousing bolts

fiveohpatrol · 04-09-2002, 09:13 PM

if you have to ask, then i don't think you should be trying a job like pulling the motor.

i'm not trying to offend you, just letting you know if you dont have help, you may not be getting it back in there.

good luck though,
-Drew

93GTDIN · 04-09-2002, 10:11 PM

Not to offend you either, sir, but how is one supposed become experienced without learning how? If every time I asked a question, somebody told me i wouldnt get it, I think i'd be pretty stupid. But if you must know it just so happens i do have someone experienced helping me pull the motor, if that makes you feel any better.

302 LX Eric · 04-10-2002, 07:54 AM

I just pulled my motor out this past weekend. It really wasn't that bad.

I used last weekend to "prep" everything (i.e. pulled the upper intake, disconnected all the sensors, removed the radiator, etc, etc.)

We loosened the four bolts on the bell to the tranny and ended up pulling the motor out with the bell on. Worked out real well.

BTW - the motor mount bolt are on pretty tight (at least mine were) - we used a breaker bar to loosen them.

Good luck,
E

drudis · 04-10-2002, 11:25 AM

Two schools of thought:
#1. Yank the motor with the trans as one unit (my preference).

#2. Yank the tranny first (or leave it in the car), then pull just the motor.

"Ignorance is just not knowing, Stupidity is not asking..."

jerrys84 · 04-10-2002, 11:42 AM

Drudis, did you post those pics to show off yer engine??

nice

drudis · 04-10-2002, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerrys84
Drudis, did you post those pics to show off yer engine??

nice

Nah, If I wanted to show off, I'd post this:

302 LX Eric · 04-10-2002, 11:57 AM

Drudis - is that the "light Ford blue" color on your block? I'm having my block painted in the next couple weeks and am not sure if I want the light or dark Ford blue color.

Thanks,
E

Kamaro Killer · 04-10-2002, 12:13 PM

I just painted my block and heads dark ford blue this last weekend. I'll post some pics for you next monday. I'll be installing the motor this weekend. Keith

RoadWarrior · 04-10-2002, 01:26 PM

I painted mine dark ford blue, i love that color. As for pulling the engine i prefer to do it with the tranny still on. Same for putting it back in. If you have a hoist with a load leveler its easy to pull everything at once. I can pull my engine in about 2 hours. I love carbs, i have barely anything to prep.

302 LX Eric · 04-10-2002, 01:40 PM

drudis - I got your PM. Thank you.

Keith - If you could post those pictures, that would be great. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

RoadWarrior - must be nice to have a carb setup!

Definitely quicker and easier to pull.

Take care,
E

93GTDIN · 04-10-2002, 02:35 PM

I guess I was asking more of, where are the bolts, how do I get to them, what size, how many, etc... (I want to leave the tranny in the car, it seems simpler)

302 LX Eric · 04-10-2002, 02:49 PM

To be honest with you, it is probably easier to pull the tranny at the same time. Reason being is that the lenght of the input shaft makes it very diffcult to pull the engine out without hitting the oil pan on the K-member. Essentially, you would have to be able to pull the motor forward enough first in order to clear the input shaft, then begin to raise the motor up and out of the engine bay. Problem is, you will hit the bottom of the rear sump on the K-member. Get it?

I can't recall what the size of the bolts are, but any decent set of sockets will have the proper size.

As for location, the bolts that I am speaking of are mounted at the back end of the bellhousing right where the front of the transmission starts.

There are four bolts.

Easiest way to get to them is from under the car.

If you can jack up the car high enough, or have access to a lift, then I would leave the tranny mounted to the engine and pull the whole thing at once. Much easier IMO. I couldn't do this because I didn't have enough clearance on the garage floor (i.e. didn't have the car up high enough).

E

fiveohpatrol · 04-10-2002, 04:44 PM

I don't know if it will be easier to pull the whole thing at once (tranny and motor) because he has an AOD which is quite a bit bulkier than a T-5 and also cannot be unbolted from its bellhousing.

The bellhousing will have 6 bolts. 2 can be reached from the top if the upper intake is off and the other 4 can be reached from the bottom. You'll need to unbolt the inspection plate on the bellhousing and turn the motor over to remove the 4 bolts that hold the torque converter to the flex plate(flywheel). Now the torqu converter will stay on the input shaft of the tranny and the motor will be free to pull up and out.

Just remember where everything goes and it should go fine.

good luck

93GTDIN · 04-10-2002, 06:10 PM

is the inspection plate visible from underneath the car? Does anyone have pictures or maybe even know of a tutorial site?

fiveohpatrol · 04-10-2002, 08:34 PM

yes it is easily visible from underneath. It is only held on by like 2 bolts and is a thin metal plate that just keeps debris out of the bellhousing.

Sorry, dont have any pictures for ya

93GTDIN · 04-10-2002, 10:43 PM

I found it and took off the 4 bolts underneath... so now my motor will just come up with no clearence problems?

Mach 1 · 04-11-2002, 02:48 AM

you dont have to have the upper intake off to get the top two bolts on the AOD bellhousing. They can be reached with intake on as well as the hood, but you should have your hood off anyway if pulling the motor.

If you have someone experienced helping you, why all the questions? Its kinda hard to explain how to pull a motor over the internet. You can get a chiltons manual or something similar which will tell you all the basic steps you need to follow.

93GTDIN · 04-11-2002, 04:44 AM

my experienced help is somewhat unreliabls and only one person who seems to always have something better to do.... the chiltons thing isnt a bad idea...

04-09-2002, 09:13 PM	#3
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	if you have to ask, then i don't think you should be trying a job like pulling the motor. i'm not trying to offend you, just letting you know if you dont have help, you may not be getting it back in there. good luck though, -Drew __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-09-2002, 10:11 PM	#4
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	Not to offend you either, sir, but how is one supposed become experienced without learning how? If every time I asked a question, somebody told me i wouldnt get it, I think i'd be pretty stupid. But if you must know it just so happens i do have someone experienced helping me pull the motor, if that makes you feel any better. __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-10-2002, 07:54 AM	#5
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	I just pulled my motor out this past weekend. It really wasn't that bad. I used last weekend to "prep" everything (i.e. pulled the upper intake, disconnected all the sensors, removed the radiator, etc, etc.) We loosened the four bolts on the bell to the tranny and ended up pulling the motor out with the bell on. Worked out real well. BTW - the motor mount bolt are on pretty tight (at least mine were) - we used a breaker bar to loosen them. Good luck, E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-10-2002, 11:25 AM	#6
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	Two schools of thought: #1. Yank the motor with the trans as one unit (my preference). #2. Yank the tranny first (or leave it in the car), then pull just the motor. "Ignorance is just not knowing, Stupidity is not asking..." __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-10-2002, 11:42 AM	#7
jerrys84 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: minnesota Posts: 129	Drudis, did you post those pics to show off yer engine?? nice __________________ 91 LX 'work in progress' previous stangs; lightly modded 84GT 81 2.3 converted to 302 auto

04-09-2002, 05:55 PM	#1
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	pulling the motor how do I unbolt the engine from the tranny? __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-09-2002, 08:55 PM	#2
mean81GT Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NY Posts: 299	bellhousing bolts __________________ I'm a glutton for punishment.

04-10-2002, 11:57 AM	#9
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Drudis - is that the "light Ford blue" color on your block? I'm having my block painted in the next couple weeks and am not sure if I want the light or dark Ford blue color. Thanks, E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-10-2002, 12:13 PM	#10
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Eric... I just painted my block and heads dark ford blue this last weekend. I'll post some pics for you next monday. I'll be installing the motor this weekend. Keith

04-10-2002, 01:26 PM	#11
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	I painted mine dark ford blue, i love that color. As for pulling the engine i prefer to do it with the tranny still on. Same for putting it back in. If you have a hoist with a load leveler its easy to pull everything at once. I can pull my engine in about 2 hours. I love carbs, i have barely anything to prep.

04-10-2002, 01:40 PM	#12
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	drudis - I got your PM. Thank you. Keith - If you could post those pictures, that would be great. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance! RoadWarrior - must be nice to have a carb setup! Definitely quicker and easier to pull. Take care, E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-10-2002, 02:35 PM	#13
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	I guess I was asking more of, where are the bolts, how do I get to them, what size, how many, etc... (I want to leave the tranny in the car, it seems simpler) __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-10-2002, 02:49 PM	#14
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	To be honest with you, it is probably easier to pull the tranny at the same time. Reason being is that the lenght of the input shaft makes it very diffcult to pull the engine out without hitting the oil pan on the K-member. Essentially, you would have to be able to pull the motor forward enough first in order to clear the input shaft, then begin to raise the motor up and out of the engine bay. Problem is, you will hit the bottom of the rear sump on the K-member. Get it? I can't recall what the size of the bolts are, but any decent set of sockets will have the proper size. As for location, the bolts that I am speaking of are mounted at the back end of the bellhousing right where the front of the transmission starts. There are four bolts. Easiest way to get to them is from under the car. If you can jack up the car high enough, or have access to a lift, then I would leave the tranny mounted to the engine and pull the whole thing at once. Much easier IMO. I couldn't do this because I didn't have enough clearance on the garage floor (i.e. didn't have the car up high enough). E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

04-10-2002, 04:44 PM	#15
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	I don't know if it will be easier to pull the whole thing at once (tranny and motor) because he has an AOD which is quite a bit bulkier than a T-5 and also cannot be unbolted from its bellhousing. The bellhousing will have 6 bolts. 2 can be reached from the top if the upper intake is off and the other 4 can be reached from the bottom. You'll need to unbolt the inspection plate on the bellhousing and turn the motor over to remove the 4 bolts that hold the torque converter to the flex plate(flywheel). Now the torqu converter will stay on the input shaft of the tranny and the motor will be free to pull up and out. Just remember where everything goes and it should go fine. good luck __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-10-2002, 06:10 PM	#16
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	is the inspection plate visible from underneath the car? Does anyone have pictures or maybe even know of a tutorial site? __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-10-2002, 08:34 PM	#17
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	yes it is easily visible from underneath. It is only held on by like 2 bolts and is a thin metal plate that just keeps debris out of the bellhousing. Sorry, dont have any pictures for ya __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-10-2002, 10:43 PM	#18
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	I found it and took off the 4 bolts underneath... so now my motor will just come up with no clearence problems? __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-11-2002, 02:48 AM	#19
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	you dont have to have the upper intake off to get the top two bolts on the AOD bellhousing. They can be reached with intake on as well as the hood, but you should have your hood off anyway if pulling the motor. If you have someone experienced helping you, why all the questions? Its kinda hard to explain how to pull a motor over the internet. You can get a chiltons manual or something similar which will tell you all the basic steps you need to follow. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-11-2002, 04:44 AM	#20
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	my experienced help is somewhat unreliabls and only one person who seems to always have something better to do.... the chiltons thing isnt a bad idea... __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

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