View Full Version : Hardest gear to hit!
gtsr515
04-20-2002, 11:09 PM
When power shifting which is the hardest gear change for you?
joe4speed
04-21-2002, 02:40 AM
LOL @ 100% 2nd-3rd gear!
I blew one of my T-5's hitting that gear
LX5liter
04-21-2002, 08:54 AM
2nd to 3rd. Especially with the stock shifter. I've heard the aftermarket shifters are a lot better, I may have to try one some day.
Stang Runner
04-21-2002, 09:01 AM
you forgot a Gear 4-5th Thats Is the hardest one By Far on my tranny I dont know why But I HAVE NOT MISSED 2-3 snice the Pro 5.0 But the 4-5th is a Pain to get in to on my tranny with that Siad I have mess Up my other Tranny going from a 2-3 But the stock Shift is Crap I can not tell you Enuff that A NEW SHIFTER is a Must!!!!! I dare say the Best Mod that you can do to help your times and save $$$$ from Braking your Tranny that it never will but it will be a big help!!!! Every One should get a new shifter if you Power shift!!!
joe4speed
04-21-2002, 01:01 PM
Yes... aftermarket shifters are a must! Huge difference there! :)
gtsr515
04-21-2002, 01:23 PM
Actually I didn't forget the 4th to 5th gear change, i didn't include it because it isn't used at the strip, But it is on the street! LOL! But i wouldn't recommend power shifting 5th gear.
For me, for some reason, it was always 3-4, after years of pondering why, it's because I'm able to "think" about it longer than the others, 1-2 is over immediately, 2-3 shortly thereafter, and then 3-4 is quite a bit longer, I'll psych myself out thinking "okay, you didn't blow 3rd, got 1 more and we are home free" and sssssssshhhhhhwwwiiinnngggggggg, I'll miss 4th, have missed it and still won races though. LOL:D
Big Bopper
04-21-2002, 01:50 PM
2nd-3rd no question! I cooked my T-5 with this shift! Classic over-extension of the shift fork... I've never had the problem since I installed my beautiful Pro-5.0 (new style).I've all the others,.... almost, and Pro-5.0 feels the toughest!:D
Conman
04-21-2002, 02:03 PM
The Pro 5.0 really helps the 2-3 shift because it's got a stronger spring in it that helps pull it over as soon as it's out of second then slides straight up into third. I think most aftermarket shifters have a similar setup. It's also great because the positive stops give it a much better feel. Also doesn't have any rubber in it like the stock shifter. Have you ever had the boot off and looked at the stock unit?
excellent investment!
ultraflo
04-21-2002, 11:18 PM
I'm in the process of taking care of having to worry about missing gears... should be simple enough with a v-gate shifter and a DR4 Jerico!
http://members.mustangworks.com/ultraflo/23_22A.jpg
I learned how to rebuild my old t-5 because that damn 2-3 shift worked so well with a Pro 5.0 shifter I was always beating on it and eventually broke third gear. Also replaced quite a few synchros in that gearbox...
I'm wondering what that Jerico is going to be like on the street:D
Coupe5oh
04-22-2002, 02:10 AM
I love my b&m shifter, just got it, and never been to the track with it yet, it is awesome, i had the stock shifter for the longest time, but also tried a hurst, that one was too short, i didnt like it, i have a mac knob on the ripper, i did this after my last time at the track i missed 4th real bad and revved my motor high, the next day i picked up this shifter, wish i would have done this a long time ago, hope i did'nt hurt my new t-5.:(
cyberstang5.0
04-22-2002, 07:37 AM
I have a B&M Ripper shifter and love it. It still miss 2-3 every once and a while. I just hope I don't do it when ppl are around cuz my car is so loud, you can't miss hearing it :rolleyes: My problem is that I let the clutch out too early when shifting to 3rd. I hate when that happens
sn95gt19
04-22-2002, 10:07 AM
i bought a tremec 3550 and made a huge mistake of not buying an aftermarket shifter, about 2 weeks later i was beatin on it and shattered the 3-4 shift fork going into 3rd. with an aftermarket shifter i would say that the 4-5 shift is the hardest, but you really shouldnt even be power shifting 4-5 unless your running a 7.?? gear.
jerrys84
04-22-2002, 10:44 AM
2-3 sux for me,
but hopefully it'll be better when i toss the stock shifter
Coupe5oh
04-22-2002, 11:35 AM
My problem was, i didnt want to get rid of the stock shifter i was so used to it, but at the track i was abusing my t-5, the ripper i have, just feels more positive, from the stops, now im used to it, and i think my t-5 will last longer hopefully,
btw sn95gt19, most near stock mustangs with 4.10 gear have to go to 5th on the track.
kahmi_ui
04-22-2002, 06:40 PM
i havent missed a gear in many a days, but i have missed a few and every time sure enough it was 2nd-3rd
84LX89GT
04-23-2002, 10:04 PM
2nd to 3rd i'd have to say is my 2nd hardest gear to get into, but i usually hit it. I have a hurst shifter and it's probably no better than stock when it comes to my miss shift rate, but it sure feels like i'm shifting faster. 4th to 5th is extremely hard to hit. I tried going 4th to 5th when i got a ricer flyby by a prelude and he pulled about 3 more cars because i missed 5th 3 times IN A ROW!.....and no i wasn't intoxicated when this happened :D, just a little peeved that he flew by me (this is before most of my mods, i would have stomped it in a second now).
sn95gt19
04-24-2002, 01:18 AM
i had a 4.56 in my 89lx and only topped out about 30ft from the end of the quarter, in 4th gear. i switched to a 4.10 and it was just right, if your hittin 5th at the track, that tells me that you need to do some gear changin.
red82gt
04-24-2002, 02:16 AM
I missed third at the track on Friday, Of course there was a big crowd, I swear I could hear the whole crowd let out a OOOHHH! LOL, It was my best run to that point too.
Coupe5oh
04-24-2002, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by sn95gt19
i had a 4.56 in my 89lx and only topped out about 30ft from the end of the quarter, in 4th gear. i switched to a 4.10 and it was just right, if your hittin 5th at the track, that tells me that you need to do some gear changin.
I talked to people that said they did, and didnt have to go to 5th, tire diameter might effect the ratio that much, i knew a guy that could go through the traps topped out in 3rd with 373 grs, modified car, he got 410's and it is perfect.
Comatose
04-24-2002, 11:56 AM
2-3 is the most difficult, 3-4 is the easiest.:confused:
RED92LX50
04-24-2002, 03:43 PM
The worst is when you're not powershifting, and you have already let the clutch out a little before you hit the next gear...grind-grind-smack as the shifter gets shoved out of gear back into your hand.:mad:
Ieatcamaros
04-28-2002, 12:02 AM
I fall in the same boat as cyberstang50. I miss 2-3 beacause I let the clutch out too early. Also, I hate missing it when people are around for the same exact reason. I am running 2 chamber flowmasters with turn downs. The exit is around the door jamb. LOUD!! Just the way I like it.
Shelby428cj
08-11-2002, 05:01 PM
No doubt about it 2-3 ahhhhhhh I hate em!:mad:
believe it or not, when i was racing at Cecil county, i had the 3-4 problem. the 2-3 i didnt miss once. i have the Hurst. also i wasnt powershifting. maybe thats why? why do you powershift on a stock or even a Tremec? i dont understand why drag racers do that unless it is with a Jerico. can someone explain this to me?
JohnnyG
08-11-2002, 09:04 PM
Can't explain why, but 1-2 is the only shift I've EVER missed on BOTH my T-5 and Tremec!
red82gt
08-12-2002, 09:45 PM
srv1, why not powershift, it's worth a couple of tenths and you don't need a jerico to do it, you do know what powershifting is right?
And wow, another moldy oldie dug up on this forum.
Originally posted by red82gt
srv1, why not powershift, it's worth a couple of tenths and you don't need a jerico to do it, you do know what powershifting is right?
And wow, another moldy oldie dug up on this forum.
Red, i was just asking why you would do it. i dont drag race enough too see the benefits of powershifting or not to powershift. i personally dont see how you would really benefit by powershifting a T5 or a Tremec since neither (that i know of) are designed to shift without some type of clutch. i mean if it does knock a couple tenths off, i guess it is worth it, but wouldnt that just empty your wallet fast? i mean i see people do it all the time and i see the same people replacing thier trannys all the time. heck i even tried it when i first got my Stang. Lets just say it was the first and last time i did that! Clue me in, maybe i am missing something?
oh, and yes i know what powershifting is.:D it is fun when it is not yours! hehehe:D
Red, i just read the other post. maybe i am wrong. all these years i thought "powershifting" was shifting without the clutch and matching the speed of the gears with the engine. i always knew it as that. have been wrong all these years? anyone?
RED92LX50
08-13-2002, 07:52 AM
It is my understanding that powershifting is shifting without pulling your foot off the gas. Basically put the gas pedal to the floor and then shift through the gears (using the clutch) as needed!
Agent_4573
08-13-2002, 09:25 AM
The way i understand power shifting and speed shifting is this.
Speedshifting is when you fully depress the clutch and back off the throttle but still hit the next gear as fast as possible. This is what i do because it won't hurt my t-5 that much.
Powershifting is depressing the clutch very slightly or not at all to get it into and out of gear, and holding the gas to the floor while doing so. This will eventually break something in the tranny though.
This is my understanding of it and someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
HORSEMEN RACING
08-13-2002, 11:15 AM
I do not know about you all,but to me a blind man could find second,but I am in total agreement about 2-3,I have tried it with a number of shifters,and some just glided right in,some did not,I know this will sound crazy but I could find 3rd easier with the stock shifter than I could with my Hurst until I removed the load springs.
My vote for sure is for 2-3 shift as hardest to hit.
ultraflo
08-14-2002, 01:13 AM
Not an issue with a Jerico DR4 and Long Verti-gate shifter!!! :D
Seriously though... to play along... when I ran a T-5 and later a Tremec 3550... definitely the 2-3 shift!
I leave my foot planted to the floorboard and pull gears without even worrying about missing a gear with the Jerico... It's not a clutchless unit, so I still have to pedal the clutch... it just slips right into the next gear... straight back from 1st, straight forward for 3rd, and straight back again for 4th... no darn H-pattern to contend with. Lovin' it! :D