View Full Version : 2003 z06/z07 vs.2003 cobra
langley
06-16-2002, 04:02 PM
who'd win?
StoplightWarrior
06-16-2002, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by langley
who'd win?
what, pray tell, is a zo7?
norotornomotor
06-16-2002, 04:33 PM
z07 is a version of the corvette that has like 400 and some horsepower
StoplightWarrior
06-16-2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by norotornomotor
z07 is a version of the corvette that has like 400 and some horsepower
OK, but how does that differ from the 405hp z06??
langley
06-16-2002, 05:10 PM
DO NOT VOTE FOR THE Z07-i made a mistake it isn't a production car-norotormotor smokes crack the car has 700rwhp and has nitrous with a 427 ci engine.other words- done the f uck out,I repeat DO NOT VOTE FOR THE Z07-it doesn't even compare to the new cobra:eek:
Dark_5.0
06-16-2002, 09:07 PM
With equal drivers the Z06 wins by a car or two IMO.
Later,
TruBluePony
06-17-2002, 08:40 AM
IMO, to me this poll is kind of moot if the Z06 can out run the Cobra or not. The Cobra is not produced to compete with the Vette, but with the LS1 Camaro's which it does easily. I would think that it is the GT-40's(street legal?) job to out run the Z06. If the Cobra can take the Z06 then that would be a bonus. Based on the horsepower ratings I also agree that it would depend on the respective drivers.
Dark_5.0
06-17-2002, 09:38 AM
I hate that arguement about what car was meant to compete with what.
At the track you are competing with who ever pulls up next to you.
TruBluePony
06-17-2002, 11:06 AM
That may be true but the question was whether or not the stock Cobra will beat a stock Corvette. Like I said if a Cobra can take a vette then that's a bonus. Don't get me wrong if I had a Cobra then I would race a Z06 just to see if I could take him. I have a 2001 GT and I'm not going to race a Z06 just so I can get my a** smoked. My point is that the Vette has a lot more at stake by racing a Cobra. If he wins then he beat a car he should have based on their respective classification's. I do not see the point in going to the track to race cars that are going to beat you unless the guy either breaks or falls asleep. Top Fuel dragsters do not race Pro Stock do they? If you want to go to the track and line up against people that are going to hand you your a** all night then be my guest I just don't see the joy in that. I hope all you guys out there with 2003 Cobra's beat those Z06's so GM looks like a bunch of smucks. :D
Dark_5.0
06-17-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by TruBluePony
That may be true but the question was whether or not the stock Cobra will beat a stock Corvette. Like I said if a Cobra can take a vette then that's a bonus. Don't get me wrong if I had a Cobra then I would race a Z06 just to see if I could take him. I have a 2001 GT and I'm not going to race a Z06 just so I can get my a** smoked. My point is that the Vette has a lot more at stake by racing a Cobra. If he wins then he beat a car he should have based on their respective classification's. I do not see the point in going to the track to race cars that are going to beat you unless the guy either breaks or falls asleep. Top Fuel dragsters do not race Pro Stock do they? If you want to go to the track and line up against people that are going to hand you your a** all night then be my guest I just don't see the joy in that. I hope all you guys out there with 2003 Cobra's beat those Z06's so GM looks like a bunch of smucks. :D
Bad comparison every driver in the pro ranks is a good driver so the guy with the most HP almost always wins.
Any real mustang drag racer will tell you there is nothing more satisfying than beating an LS1 or a Vette in your inferior car :rolleyes: .......In my opinion if your gonna go to the track and bow down to suposedly faster cars "Just stay home!"
Run watcha brung baby!!!
7000rpmisheaven
06-17-2002, 02:40 PM
Whats the fun in racing a car if you know you are going to win. If you know for sure that you should run faster than is it really a race? Alot of people have that mentality. Race win or lose to see how you stack up to a car with more hp. I guess it is easy for me. I intend to eventually have a mustang that will outrun a stock LS1 or a z06. I'm not very close to that point but racing one of these shows me how I'm doing.
TruBluePony
06-17-2002, 03:11 PM
I agree with what your saying 7000rpmisheaven. The funniest thing about this is the guys on LS1.com are also talking about the same thing. Whether or not a stock Cobra can take a stock vette. That would be like a Mustang owner wondering whether he could beat a Monte Carlo SS. You damn well should be able to.My argument is if I had a vette I would get rid of it if I couldn't beat a Cobra. Look at the difference in money......are you going to pay that much more money for a car that can't beat a Cobra? Of course if you don't care about that then fine but I would. Now you guys are arguing that you can add mods to your car and beat a LS1 or Z06, which I totally agree with. I was talking about a stock to stock only. Good luck on getting your Mustang fast enough to beat a LS1, I hope your able to. And by the way Dark 5.0 there's a little thing called bracket racing which eliminates the HP advantage.
Dark_5.0
06-17-2002, 03:41 PM
Oh bracket racing.......Well if you are talking bracket racing then I can smoke that Z06 in my CRX:D
Later.
302 LX Eric
06-17-2002, 04:28 PM
Are there any ET's out for the 2003 Z06 yet? I think the 2003 Cobra was quoted at a 12.87 @ 110 in MM&FF.
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Dark_5.0
06-17-2002, 04:30 PM
The Z06 runs very low 12's.
302 LX Eric
06-17-2002, 04:41 PM
Wow. Well, in that case, I would have to give the nod to the Z06.
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red82gt
06-17-2002, 09:13 PM
The Cobra did a bunch of 12.6's for MM&FF.
I wonder why the comparo though? The ZO6 starts at $15K(US, $25K Canadian) more than the Cobra but only has a small performance advantage due mostly to the weight difference. Chances are that if the cobra responds as well to "tweaking" as the lightning the cobra will destroy the ZO6 for about $1500 worth of mods and the vipers will be having to watch their mirrors for the new snake.
Sure it's run whatca brung but if you're wise with your dollars the cobra is my choice.
2MCHPWR
06-18-2002, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by red82gt
...the cobra will destroy the ZO6 for about $1500 worth of mods ...
hi red, that may be true on the drag strip, but the Z06 was built to kick *** on the road course. the new cobra is too (nose) heavy to hang with a Z06 on a road course or autocross. if handling is your bag, and if you can afford it, get a c5.
regarding the original poll....
stock 2002 Z06 to stock 2003 cobra, i'd guess the Z06 would win in a drag race, drivers and conditions being equal.
the new cobra is an awesome car!!!!!!
Oldschoolpony
06-18-2002, 07:13 PM
2002 Z06 goes 0 to 100 to 0 in under 15 seconds and does the 1/4 mile in 12.4.:eek:
Not to shaby for a car off the showroom floor.
according to the magazines.:D
I'm gonna get killed 100 times over for this. 4.6 is just too puny for a good performance engine. Even with DOHC and a supercharger, European normally aspirated engines will kill them for the same price or larger? . Ford has always won by producing large displacement engines in small cars.
Why don't we do that now?
Skyman
06-18-2002, 09:43 PM
Anyone see the thread on the Viper site, where a viper owner got a new 2003 cobra, put in some octane boost, drag radials, and removed 150lbs and went 12.3@118?
Skyler
Dark_5.0
06-19-2002, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Skyman
Anyone see the thread on the Viper site, where a viper owner got a new 2003 cobra, put in some octane boost, drag radials, and removed 150lbs and went 12.3@118?
Skyler
I have personaly witnessed a Z06 go 11.73 @119mph with a little weight reduction and some wide as hell BFG drag radials.
I love the Z06 its an awesome car, I think the new cobra is cool to, but I dont think we will see many at the tracks.
JMO,
302 LX Eric
06-19-2002, 02:42 PM
I think sedanman just raced a 2003 Cobra at the track. Unfortunately, I think the guy went high 13's @ 104 - what a dill hole! :D
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RPM427
06-21-2002, 10:30 AM
the cobra ran a 12.6 during a test by MM&FF
LT1 Z28
06-21-2002, 12:08 PM
My money's on the Z06 on this one... but we'll see when they hit the streets...
RPM427
06-21-2002, 05:35 PM
Z06 is faster, but with $600 worth of mods the cobra will toast it.
Ford finally came through. The last generations of cobras were compared to comaro SS's. But now they are being compared to vettes, Z06 vettes, M3's, etc. Great bang for the buck.
another interesting tidbit of knowledge.
MM&FF dyno tested it in the newest issue (August).
It had 381 RWHP, BUT, they removed the air silencer and it went up to 394 at the wheels. Ford had to put it on so the cobra would pass niose regulations. thats 13 free horses. Just think what a set of pulleys will do.:D
INVINCISTANG
06-22-2002, 01:18 PM
Not ALL Z06's run low 12's just like not ALL 03 Cobras will run mid 12's.
It comes down to driver. There are some driver's in Z06's running high 13's cuz they don't know what the hell they are doing. Same with the 03 Cobra.
With equal drivers (stock vs stock) the Z06 wins. There's no comparison.
Dump a couple hundred bucks in the Cobra and yeah maybe it will win. But dump a couple hundred in the Z06 (DR's and intake) and I take the Z06 again.
The Z06 costs 15k more but it is a superior car in straight-line performance, handling, interior, etc....
Anyway, the 03 Cobra is going to be one bad @$$ ride! I can't wait to see them run at the track!