explorer intake

[CB93LX]

Are the explorer intakes(GT40) on ebay any good and well they bolt on to my 5.0? I am building a 306 with keith black 10-1 pistons, windage tray, B-cam(maybe), ported and removed air hump ,3 angle valave job , shaved 50 thousands stock heads, roller rockers1.6,ac elim,no smog,h pipe, equal length headers,24 lb inj, 70 mm mass air and throttle body,electric fan, underdrive pulleys with a t5 tranny and 273 gears. Any suggestions on this set up (good or bad) Any help would be appreciated. First 5.0 build. Want it to be very streetable but also want sufficiant power for the stop lights. Thanks

[CB93LX]

Sorry, just trying to keep my post alive.

[Dark_5.0]

Sorry I didnt see your post earlier. Yes the explorer intakes on E-bay are good and offer great performance, the explorer intake is a great naturaly aspirated intake.

I got mine off of e-bay for $200.00 brand new.

You do have to modify it a little bit to get it to work. If you get one PM me and I will walk you through it.

If you do get the explorer intake our set-ups will be nearly identical.

Good luck,

[429mustang]

What needs to be modified?

[bigred90gt]

Dude, loose the 2.73's!!! You will be very thankfull when you do. Get a set of 3.73's. Just my suggestion.
Caymon

[Dark_5.0]

Originally posted by 429mustang
What needs to be modified?

You have to tapp a hole in the #5 runner of the lower intake for your air charge temperature sensor. 3/8 pipe thread tapp

and if you are still running the coolant lines to your throttle body you have to tapp a hole in your #4 runner. You can bypass this step by not running coolant lines to your throttle body. Thats what I did.

Easy money,

[CB93LX]

What kind of times does that setup produce for you DARK 5.0? If you dont mind letting everyone know, if not please email me so Ill know what to expect. Thanks for your response. Any idea what year explorer intake i need? BIG RED, I may change the gear ratio soon after but its been my experience that they only help just off the line. I know it sounds crazy but after i put 373s on my 73 F100 W/ a 390 my 1/8 mile times went down some. I mean if you go through the 1/4 mile traps in 4th gear w/ 373s and Im just shifting into 3rd then my tranny gears kinda make up that difference. Dont want to give up traction and mpg for only a feeling of going quicker. But hey, thats just my theory and Im sure someone could get me to see it differently. Thanks for your response. I appreciate any and all help.

[Agent_4573]

Get different gears. Go at least 3.27's. It what i have and i like em cuz its a good median between acceleration and gas milage. If you want to, get 3.73's there really popular and i hear stories of people still pulling close to 20mpg with em. but 2.73's will kill your car no matter what set up you have on it.

[bigred90gt]

I pull about 19 mpg city and about 23 hwy with my current combo. I see no difference in mpg. But, to each his own. I like the gears and Joe Schmo might not. Any way it goes, if you are happy with your car, it's a good combo.
Caymon

[Dark_5.0]

My 5.0 consist of.....

Ported , polished , and milled E7's
Explorer intake, 3/8 inch phenolic spacer
65mm TB 67mm EGR
under drive pullies
Aeromotive FPR
1 5/8 equal length headers
O/R X-pipe
2 chamber flows dumped
3 .73 gears
Ford racing clutch
sub frame connectors
lower control arms
steeda tri-ax shifter
27X10X16 slicks

Last time I went to the track all I could do was mid 13's @102mph.........That was before my Throttle body and slicks. I fully expect to run a high 12 next time I go the track.

Keep in mind I am at 3000ft of altitude and my car is a convertible.

Later,

[CB93LX]

Dont get me wrong, I am asking for suggestions on my combo. I may have had just a fluk accurance with my gears cause all my friends disagree with me to. I appreciate your help, any suggestions on my motor mods? Thanks again

[CB93LX]

I guess you were posting at the same time as me cause i just now read your post. Sounds good,no power adders? I just want to be in the 12s and still be streetable. Gas milage is not that big of a concern, i know hot rodding and gas milage dont go hand and hand but I want something better than my 390 F100 cause it only getting 9 mile to the gallon on the highway. Thanks again.

[CB93LX]

Oh yeah any idea what years for the explorer intake?

[Agent_4573]

Dark 5.0: can you run the spacer in the explorer intake w/ a stock hood or do you have a cowl hood?

[Bobasaurus]

When I got my explorer intake off ebay I shopped around for weeks and finally found a "used" one with extras. The junk yard shipped it with 65mm TB, 1997 model 19lbs injectors, and it had the EGR built-in ( which is great to find!!!)

If you get one of the "new" ones on ebay it will probably not have EGR and no extra's.

My seller was actually a GREANLEAF salvage yard.

[CB93LX]

Thats why I was asking for year models. I plan on giving my local junk yards a call. The year probaly doesnt matter but thought Id ask just in case. 65mm TB? What is it on a stock 5.0 HO?

[Bobasaurus]

I think stock 5.0 TB is 50 or 55MM. The explorer TB is noticable bigger.

The early 5.0 explorers 1996-1997 have the EGR passages even though they are not used. You can tell when you take the upper off. Look for the little black hole in the middle.

Also you can get some good GT-40P or GT40 heads off those engines.

[Agent_4573]

58mm is the stock throttle body

[CB93LX]

Thanks alot. Ill look into the intake deal. Would it be benificial for me to invest in the heads? I mean i already have my E7s shaved,3 angle valve job,removed air hump, polished. Dont want to waste money. Especially now, got a temp lay off today. All this time but not enough money to do much. Thanks again to everyone

[Agent_4573]

the e7's are crap no matter what you do to em. With all that done to em, i guess there nto to bad, but a set of heads would be the best thing you could get for your car. you can get a brand new set of gt40p heads for under 500 bucks. They'll go real nice w/ that new explorer intake of yours.

[Dark_5.0]

Originally posted by Agent_4573
the e7's are crap no matter what you do to em. With all that done to em, i guess there nto to bad, but a set of heads would be the best thing you could get for your car. you can get a brand new set of gt40p heads for under 500 bucks. They'll go real nice w/ that new explorer intake of yours.

I disagree about your stance on E7's. I am smoking alot of my friends that have afr and trick flow heads.

But anyways,

I dont know if the explorer intake with a spacer fits under the stock hood or not cause one of the first mods I did was a 3 inch cobra R hood.

[Coupe50h]

Originally posted by Agent_4573
58mm is the stock throttle body

55mm mang:D

Also, yes some grs will be needed imo, and if you get a b-cam, or any aftermarket performance cam, you will need at least 3.55 grs, or steeper, or your car will be a dog on the lowend, my 3.27's, (like mentioned before earlier in the thread), are good on the highway, and im still launching hard, even smoking some 373'd stangs, but whatever you think you need.
good luck.

[CB93LX]

I was only stating my personal experience with gears. I put a cam with 533 .563 lift with 272 284 duration in a heavy 73 F100 with a 308 gear and ran 4 tenths slower when I put in the 373s. That was the only difference. I could "feel" the power but you only go so far in each gear before its gone. But I have been listening and I do understand the posts and emails Ive received on the gear ratio thing so I guess I've been convinced. I will also need a new tranny, any suggestions? Ive read the other posts on the subject of trannys. What about a richmond R.O.D. 6 speed. I know theyre costly but will it be worth it in the long run?

[Coupe50h]

Hey man, im not trying to convince you or anything, im actually relaying what im always told, my friends are always telling me how much difference you feel when you go steeper,

i just cant seem to part with my grs either, so i sort of agree with you, but im sure i will eventually swap for better 60's, but i too have heard of people slowing, or not gaining with a 373 swap, all depends, traction, driving style ect...
any luck with finding an intake?

[CB93LX]

No luck with finding an intake yet, called the local salvage yards. But I have plenty of other things to buy for awhile so Ill just keep my eye out for one. As far as the gears go, you will definatly feel a difference but your gears wont cover the same distance. Coupe, sorry if I seemed snappy to your reply, Everyones telling me the same thing your friends are telling you. GEARS,GEARS,GEARS!!! I still believe they really only help in the holeshot cause after that the difference in the tranny will take over. Maybe not and I see everyones point on gears but I may have to learn the hard way. It seems so simple but for some reason I just cant get it through my head. Thanks for your reply as well as everyone elses. So, Im taking it that everyone thinks the rest of my plans as far as the engine build are o.k..??Thanks again to all

[Bobasaurus]

Number one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871450422)

Number Two (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871262997)

Unfortunately these do not have EGR nor the throttle bodies but one will show up sooner or later.

[Simi Stang]

Believe me...you can do nothing but benefit from installing 3.73 gears.

[srv1]

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
I disagree about your stance on E7's. I am smoking alot of my friends that have afr and trick flow heads.

But anyways,

I dont know if the explorer intake with a spacer fits under the stock hood or not cause one of the first mods I did was a 3 inch cobra R hood.

i agree with Dark. if you know what to do to them and use the right combos, you can pull some serious times with them.

You have to tapp a hole in the #5 runner of the lower intake for your air charge temperature sensor. 3/8 pipe thread tapp

and if you are still running the coolant lines to your throttle body you have to tapp a hole in your #4 runner. You can bypass this step by not running coolant lines to your throttle body. Thats what I did.

you dont have to drill a hole in your intake at all. lenghten the air intake sensor wires and mount the sensor in the intake tube or airbox. actually i dont know why ford didnt do that in the first place.:confused:

[Bobasaurus]

I drilled and tapped for the EGR water feed line and the ACT on my explorer intake.

[Agent_4573]

you shouldn't bid on number 1 cuz im bidding on that right now.... hehe

[Agent_4573]

ok, so you don't have to drill for the act sensor, but do you still have to drill for the egr water lines or is there a way around that? you said you didn't drill anything so I assume theres a way around it or your not running water to the egr anymore right?

[Bobasaurus]

I think 9/16" drill and 3/8 NPT TAP threads. The bosses are there waiting to be tapped.

I will try and post a picture tomorrow.

[CB93LX]

I appreciate the thought BOBASAURUS,I saw those but Ive got plenty of time to wait for one with a throttle body. So dont worry about me AGENT_4573, but you might want to worry about them last minute bidders. I still gotta get my pistons,lifters,cam,roller rockers,timing gear,bolt set,injectors, starter, alt, power steering pump,radiator,tranny,GEARS,etc, so I got a lot of time to look around for an intake. Does the list ever get shorter? Seems like Ive bought alot already. Well anyway, Thanks for all the great info from everyone, I appreciate it. Any other suggestions on what I should get for my build up are welcome.

[macx]

You might want to watch which one you go for - some have the EGR passage and some don't.

Here's some good info on them.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/3310/Explorer.html
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/stories/sf609/intake_overload.html
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/5755/gt40p.html