slow vert. anyone?

90LxDroptop · 11-20-2002, 09:04 AM

Hello everyone. I just ordered a trickflow cam, twisted wedge heads and trick flow intake to match the heads. Finally, no more "slow" vert. I hope. I ran a 15.3 before my exhaust mods(h-pipe, 2 chambers). My question is, along with this heads/cam/intake, and the addition of a Pi stallion 2800 non lock up converter (still no time to put that in) what kinda 1/4 times will I be running? mph? How much rwhp? I know I still need to get headers, those will be on the way shortly as well. Any suggestions as to which headers to go with? let me know, i'm open to suggestions, I'm trying to make the best out of my money. thanx!

-Suave

Dark_5.0 · 11-20-2002, 09:26 AM

I would go with BBK 1 5/8 equal length headers cause they will work with your existing H-pipe . They look and perform awesome thats what I have.

I would expect you to be in the very low 13's to high 12's @106mph or so.

Congrats it should be awesome,

drtbiker · 11-20-2002, 10:51 AM

i am not to sure.... what do you say we put it together and find out next year
maybe you'll be able to beat me

later

ChunkFunky · 11-20-2002, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 90LxDroptop
Hello everyone. I just ordered a trickflow cam, twisted wedge heads and trick flow intake to match the heads. Finally, no more "slow" vert. I hope. I ran a 15.3 before my exhaust mods(h-pipe, 2 chambers). My question is, along with this heads/cam/intake, and the addition of a Pi stallion 2800 non lock up converter (still no time to put that in) what kinda 1/4 times will I be running? mph? How much rwhp? I know I still need to get headers, those will be on the way shortly as well. Any suggestions as to which headers to go with? let me know, i'm open to suggestions, I'm trying to make the best out of my money. thanx!

-Suave

its gotta be nice to just get it all in one shot... but i wanted to know how much you paid for all that stuff.. is it a KIT from TFS or was it a la carte?

I have a vert too and it's a pig.. I'm dying to know how you do now
-as

HiFlow5 0 · 11-20-2002, 04:31 PM

Auto+vert=dissadvantage! I would say mid to high 13's once converter is in, and how well you are able to hook up. First run out, I'd say somewhere in the 14's. Traction is going to be your big issue when all said and done. Plus its going to take more to get your car going.

In my case I had no traction and I was only able to run 13.8@101mph, But my car has a lot more potential. Now a guy that had the same set up as me plus MT slicks, traction bars, and 4.10's ran 12.9

Just to give you an idea to what to expect.

Dark_5.0 · 11-20-2002, 05:06 PM

If you dont have at least 3.73 gears and drag radials then just stay home.

I run a 13.69 @101mph @3000ft granted my car is a 5 speed but I only have ported stock heads and an explorer intake along with all the bolt ons. Check my user ride to see my complete combo.

Traction should be a given, I dont know why you would spend that much cash for HP that you will just spin away.

Get 4.10's and drag radials or slicks. Then go run 12's and have a nice day.

Later,

90LxDroptop · 11-21-2002, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChunkFunky
its gotta be nice to just get it all in one shot... but i wanted to know how much you paid for all that stuff.. is it a KIT from TFS or was it a la carte?

I have a vert too and it's a pig.. I'm dying to know how you do now
-as

About $1950 I also got roller rockers, and a timing chain. all from summit, gotta love them. Yeah drtbker, this thing is finally gonna fly.

84LX89GT · 11-21-2002, 02:01 AM

I found out that with wheel hop and no traction all the money i spent on my engine (although still on a budget) was basically spun and hopped away.
I guess you'll see how your traction situation is. I decided to go the suspension/stiffening chassis route. You guys both have similar stuff that i do so i guess it'll be interesting to compare your horsepower with my traction after you hit the track

Quote: Dark_5.0
"Traction should be a given, I dont know why you would spend that much cash for HP that you will just spin away."

Boy did i learn that quickly, nothing makes me angrier than being psyched to go to the track only to have inconsistant runs from traction problems!

HiFlow5 0 · 11-21-2002, 02:43 AM

At most tracks, they require a roll cage once a vert breaks into the 13's. I still don't see a heavy vert/auto going into the 12's, at least with the mods described.

ChunkFunky · 11-21-2002, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 90LxDroptop
About $1950 I also got roller rockers, and a timing chain. all from summit, gotta love them. Yeah drtbker, this thing is finally gonna fly.

I noticed that you have the AOD as well.. how do you like that TransGo kit... did you install it yourself? I blew my tranny withing the first 2 months of me having the car and I just had it rebuilt stock.. but I was thinking a shift kit would be a good thing...
-as

90LxDroptop · 11-21-2002, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by ChunkFunky
I noticed that you have the AOD as well.. how do you like that TransGo kit... did you install it yourself? I blew my tranny withing the first 2 months of me having the car and I just had it rebuilt stock.. but I was thinking a shift kit would be a good thing...
-as

Yes, I love the transgo shift kit. Shifts real hard. It shifts kind of hard when in normal driving conditions though. It's no biggie though. I had a transmission shop instal it. If i had more money I would of gone with a lentech valvebody. The transgo is great for the money though. I suggest you go with it.

11-20-2002, 09:04 AM	#1
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	slow vert. anyone? Hello everyone. I just ordered a trickflow cam, twisted wedge heads and trick flow intake to match the heads. Finally, no more "slow" vert. I hope. I ran a 15.3 before my exhaust mods(h-pipe, 2 chambers). My question is, along with this heads/cam/intake, and the addition of a Pi stallion 2800 non lock up converter (still no time to put that in) what kinda 1/4 times will I be running? mph? How much rwhp? I know I still need to get headers, those will be on the way shortly as well. Any suggestions as to which headers to go with? let me know, i'm open to suggestions, I'm trying to make the best out of my money. thanx! -Suave __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

11-20-2002, 09:26 AM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I would go with BBK 1 5/8 equal length headers cause they will work with your existing H-pipe . They look and perform awesome thats what I have. I would expect you to be in the very low 13's to high 12's @106mph or so. Congrats it should be awesome, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

11-20-2002, 10:51 AM	#3
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	i am not to sure.... what do you say we put it together and find out next year maybe you'll be able to beat me later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

11-20-2002, 04:31 PM	#5
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	Auto+vert=dissadvantage! I would say mid to high 13's once converter is in, and how well you are able to hook up. First run out, I'd say somewhere in the 14's. Traction is going to be your big issue when all said and done. Plus its going to take more to get your car going. In my case I had no traction and I was only able to run 13.8@101mph, But my car has a lot more potential. Now a guy that had the same set up as me plus MT slicks, traction bars, and 4.10's ran 12.9 Just to give you an idea to what to expect. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

11-20-2002, 05:06 PM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	If you dont have at least 3.73 gears and drag radials then just stay home. I run a 13.69 @101mph @3000ft granted my car is a 5 speed but I only have ported stock heads and an explorer intake along with all the bolt ons. Check my user ride to see my complete combo. Traction should be a given, I dont know why you would spend that much cash for HP that you will just spin away. Get 4.10's and drag radials or slicks. Then go run 12's and have a nice day. Later, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

11-21-2002, 02:01 AM	#8
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	I found out that with wheel hop and no traction all the money i spent on my engine (although still on a budget) was basically spun and hopped away. I guess you'll see how your traction situation is. I decided to go the suspension/stiffening chassis route. You guys both have similar stuff that i do so i guess it'll be interesting to compare your horsepower with my traction after you hit the track Quote: Dark_5.0 "Traction should be a given, I dont know why you would spend that much cash for HP that you will just spin away." Boy did i learn that quickly, nothing makes me angrier than being psyched to go to the track only to have inconsistant runs from traction problems! __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

11-21-2002, 02:43 AM	#9
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	At most tracks, they require a roll cage once a vert breaks into the 13's. I still don't see a heavy vert/auto going into the 12's, at least with the mods described. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

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