Tireburner is a scammer

[fiveohpatrol]

I used to think of Josh as a good friend... not anymore.
This waste of space stole $100 from me, and is now ignoring me.

I "bought" an SFI balancer from him a couple months back. I sent him a check and he cashed it right away. He said he sent my balancer via USPS but conveniently couldn't find his tracking number. I patiently waited, because I trusted him, as I've bought and sold with him before. Well, after a few weeks of waiting for it, I got a little concerned and he decided that USPS had lost it, but he still couldn't find his tracking number, so its all on him now. He agreed to send me my money back after he got paid. Although I thought this was crap because he should have had my money in pocket from my check. Anyway, its been another month, and I haven't seen a dime. I had been talking with him via AIM, and he has since blocked me (I'm not that stupid Josh)

I just thought I'd make you guys aware because he is a frequent member here and sells a lot of crap. Watch out for this immature scamming piece of shit! :mad:

Josh, good job in losing any credibility you had ever earned. If you do ever decide to grow up and either send me my balancer or my money back, I'll gladly delete this thread. I doubt it will happen though.

-Drew

[joe4speed]

Hasn't this happened before with someone else too?

[fiveohpatrol]

Something similar happened, but I think it was finally somewhat resolved and I gave Josh the benefit of the doubt. I guess I shouldn't have!

[andy669]

So its nearing 2 months? Thats plenty long enough to wait, In my book. C'mon Josh, get this shit resolved.

Andy

[fiveohpatrol]

It's been over 2 months now

[Dark_5.0]

First the tranny with the other guy. Now the balancer with you.

Hmmmmm....

[OnMy3rdStang]

Hasn't this happened before with someone else too?

I recall a similar situation too. Cant remember who it was though.



I hope you get either your money back or the balancer soon. Thanks for the heads up.

[Mr 5 0]

I'm only reading one side of this story but...weeks going by, no UPS tracking # and being blocked on AIM all add up to a very dubious situation that appears as a scam-in-progress. In other words - the correct words - Josh is stealing from another MW member. I hope this turns out not to be the case, but it sure looks that way.

I find it sad that a guy who had built up trust and credibility via this site will now resort to scamming someone out $100. Is one hundred dollars THAT important? How sad that -apparently - to Josh, it is. If that ends up actually being the case, I hope he considers the $100. he stole well worth his reputation here, which is about to be shot for good.

I regret this happened and I still hold out a little hope that there is an alternate explanation. It's Josh's call.

[lx mike]

Well, Josh is your credibility worth $100?? inquiring minds wanna know

[Ieatcamaros]

I remember the so called scam with the transmission awhile back. If I remember correctly, fiveohpatrol was one of the guys who posted on tireburner's behalf. Fiveohpatrol, I think with your posts before, you kind of kept tireburner in good standing with the mustang works members. That being said, even if he gets out of this one, I think we all know not to buy from tireburner at all. To me, $100 is not worth risking a good reputation on a damn good site. I am with lxmike, I am curious to know why you would risk a good rep over a measly $100?

[Ieatcamaros]

The other scam (http://forums.mustangworks.com/showthread.php?t=43868)

To save some of you the search time. This is the one we are referring to with the transmission.

[Stang_Crazy]

Still no explanation from him......

[RAGE_5.0]

I talked to him earlier this morning and he also replied on the corral. usps lost the package and he is financially drained at the moment and will pay the money back when he can. It amazes me how soon people jump in and assume someone is guilty of ******* a friend out of $100.

[joe4speed]

Even if usps lost it, there would still be a tracking number. :rolleyes:

[andy669]

I talked to him earlier this morning and he also replied on the corral. usps lost the package and he is financially drained at the moment and will pay the money back when he can. It amazes me how soon people jump in and assume someone is guilty of ******* a friend out of $100.


1) What Joe said is absolutely correct. Anybody that doesnt keep track of tracking numbers is asking for trouble.

2) All he would have had to do is tell Drew this and I'm sure he would have understood.

Andy

[fiveohpatrol]

It amazes me how soon people jump in and assume someone is guilty of ******* a friend out of $100.

If you sent a check to someone, they cashed it immediately, you don't have your part for over 2 months, and he starts ignoring you, what would you assume?

I'm sorry if it seems I'm jumping to conclusions, but its just not right. I shouldn't have to suffer because he has no clue how to handle money. Plain and simple.

[tireburner163]

1)The Post Office doesn't give tracking numbers

2)The situation HAS been explained to drew. I'm not gonna argue the situation again. I'm doing the best I can at the moment. $100 doesn't sound like much, but it's 2/3 of my paycheck. I'm working on getting him is money ASAP.

3) The guy with the trans was trying to rip ME off. He was pissed because he got the T-5 late and the next thing I know he's saying it needs a full rebuild. So I told him I'd give him his money back and to just ship me the tranny back (I pay shipping) because I knew it was good. Funny.....never heard another thing out of him and that was 6 months ago :rolleyes:

[andy669]

The post office absolutely gives tracking numbers. You have to ship priority mail with delivery confirmation. IMO, thats the only way to ship anything of any value.

I'm sure Drew is just as sorry as you are that it had to come to this. See #2 from my previous post.

Andy

[Mr 5 0]

1)

The Post Office doesn't give tracking numbers.

That is not true. I checked.

2)The situation HAS been explained to drew. I'm not gonna argue the situation again. I'm doing the best I can at the moment. $100 doesn't sound like much, but it's 2/3 of my paycheck. I'm working on getting him is money ASAP.

You could have made all this crystal clear with a timely e-mail to him. Instead, it appeared as if you were giving Drew 'the runaround'. $100. is a lot of money to just about everyone and I doubt that Drew is any exception. Pay the man what you owe him...find a way.

3) The guy with the trans was trying to rip ME off. He was pissed because he got the T-5 late and the next thing I know he's saying it needs a full rebuild. So I told him I'd give him his money back and to just ship me the tranny back (I pay shipping) because I knew it was good. Funny.....never heard another thing out of him and that was 6 months ago :rolleyes:

All part of the unbridled fun of using the internet to buy and sell parts to and from total strangers - and why I never, ever buy or sell that way. Life is far too short for the aggravation. Again: pay what you owe. It's the right thing to do. Hiding and excuses don't cut it when money is involved. You should realize that by now.

However, I'm pleased that you were not actually scamming another member and that this messy situatioon has hope of being amicably resolved.

[StangFlyer]

All part of the unbridled fun of using the internet to buy and sell parts to and from total strangers - and why I never, ever buy or sell that way. Life is far too short for the aggravation.

I for one have bought many things (mostly computer related items) online from individual parties using eBay. And, although I have never purchased any automotive parts myself using the MW classifieds, I have sold parts thru our classified's here. My own personal experience thus far has been almost all positive. The only problem I've ever had is one time I sold the set of MAC headers I used to run back in the day on my 302 to some guy in NJ and sent them COD. UPS messed up and did not collect the COD and just left the package. Of course, the guy vanished after this and I suddenly couldn't get a hold of him. I did get my money, but had to go through the hassle of collecting from the UPS insurance. For the guy in NJ it was his lucky day at UPS' expense.

You just have to be smart about buying from classified's and use common sense. Here's a good FAQ (http://forums.mustangworks.com/faq.php?faq=classified_faq_items#faq_classified_bu ying_faq) about using the classified's that we've had up here for a long time.

In any event, this is the second time that this type of situation has come up with Josh on the site. Unfortunately, regardless of what's really going on... I don't have time to sort out Josh's classified misunderstandings nor do I want to. Quite understandably I would think, a moderator who has a knack for poor or controversial classified dealings does not reflect well on MW; not to mention themselves. As such, I have removed Tireburner as a moderator and changed his account status back to a standard member. I think that is best for MW, for our members, and for Josh.

[srv1]

Thats just to bad. One would think with a high post count that one would be reliable. Usually ANYONE here with a decent or high post count I can usually trust without any doubt. Josh you should have told him straight up that you spent his money and you are now in a finacial bind. He would be upset but at least he would know what was going on. I hope you get your money back soon Drew!

James :cool:

[mustangII460]

Drew, If you ever come down toward Pigeon Forge/ Gatlinburg I'll buy you lunch and give you a ride in the Cobra.

This will atleast offset the $100 a little.

[rwhite65]

Times get rough, I think we all have experienced that. A $100 is a lot of money. Though it may be embarrassing, a little explanation as to why it was lost, why there is no number, a credible reason...and I would understand as a friend. Though I would be disappointed in the poor decision to blast the money away before five0patrol had a chance to see the part, I would still understand.
Ryan

[Crazy Horse GT]

well, i'm not going to get into it, but josh, man you have to make it right, you know as i do that drew is a good guy, just get it straight, borrow the money or something! :rolleyes: :confused:

[Mr 5 0]

I for one have bought many things (mostly computer related items) online from individual parties using eBay. And, although I have never purchased any automotive parts myself using the MW classifieds, I have sold parts thru our classified's here. My own personal experience thus far has been almost all positive. The only problem I've ever had is one time I sold the set of MAC headers I used to run back in the day on my 302 to some guy in NJ and sent them COD. UPS messed up and did not collect the COD and just left the package. Of course, the guy vanished after this and I suddenly couldn't get a hold of him. I did get my money, but had to go through the hassle of collecting from the UPS insurance. For the guy in NJ it was his lucky day at UPS' expense.

You just have to be smart about buying from classified's and use common sense.

I know that thousands of people successfully use internet classified ads to buy and sell things every day but I have never liked mail order anything to begin with and I can usually find whatever I need, especially auto parts, nearby, where I can see the item and judge the condition and quality as well as have my part (or whatever) immediately. That's just me. I did not mean to disparage MW's classifieds or the wisdom of buying/selling via internet classifieds. I was only stating my personal preference.

In any event, this is the second time that this type of situation has come up with Josh on the site. Unfortunately, regardless of what's really going on... I don't have time to sort out Josh's classified misunderstandings nor do I want to. Quite understandably I would think, a moderator who has a knack for poor or controversial classified dealings does not reflect well on MW; not to mention themselves. As such, I have removed Tireburner as a moderator and changed his account status back to a standard member. I think that is best for MW, for our members, and for Josh.

I have to agree. Josh may well be innocent of any intentional wrongdoing here (and I believe he is) but the appearance of a moderator scamming another MW member, blocking Drew's messages when he tried to find out what happened to his promised part and in general, acting irresponsibly in financial dealings does not reflect well on him and by association, Mustang Works.

Good call, Dan.

[tireburner163]

I get the impression that people think I am dragging my feet about paying Drew back, this is simply not the case. I go to school full time and have a part time job. I only make about 130-150 dollars a week. After gas, a car payment, and insurance I don't have a lot left. This is not Drew fault of course, but mine. I am doing the best I can at the moment

I told Drew it would be a little bit before he got his money, I'm doing the best I can. I am confident he will have his money soon, much to his and my relief.

I'm not avoding him, I'm not sure what's up with either his or my AIM account, but I deleted and reinstalled AIM this morning in hoping of possably clearing up the problem.

I really wish Drew would have called or sent me a e-mail before posting this though. He has both my phone # and my e-mail addy.


Wow....so I get phucked around on a tranny deal and then a simple misunderstanding and get my mod status booted......KICK ASS!!!!!!!!::)

[mustangII460]

So where the heck did the balancer go? What did the post office or whoever sent it say? Are they looking? Anyone check with them? Still sitting on their counter?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

[induction]

You guys are way to soft IMHO!! It dosen't matter where/ how little you work or if you go to school or not YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE USED THE FUNDS UNTIL THE TRANSACTION WAS COMPLETED plain and simple. Cry if you like but pay the man his money and don't pray on someone else to do it.


Your word is all you have at the end of the day, breaking out the Brasso wont help .

[fiveohpatrol]

I received a money order from Josh today, a few months late, but he did repay me. Just thought I'd update you guys.

-Drew

[rwhite65]

I for one am glad to hear that. Speaks well towards his character......and brings about a good end to this unfortunate situation.
Ryan

[Mr 5 0]

I received a money order from Josh today, a few months late, but he did repay me. Just thought I'd update you guys.

-Drew

Good news, Drew! I trust that your receipt of Josh's Money Order now closes this unfortunate episode between MW members. I think that it took too long - but at least Josh finally came through, as promised.

[RBatson]

Good to hear it got resolved. As far as being a broke college student, I've been there.

UPS messed up and did not collect the COD and just left the package. Of course, the guy vanished after this and I suddenly couldn't get a hold of him. I did get my money, but had to go through the hassle of collecting from the UPS insurance. For the guy in NJ it was his lucky day at UPS' expense.



Sorry to hear that. If the package was marked COD and the driver didn't collect, then the driver had to pay the COD amount.