Putting 84 5.0 in 65 - Help!

vegasmustang · 05-14-2001, 05:19 PM

I put a 84 5.O motor in my 65 Coupe but I am not sure what type of ignition system to use, I have the distributor that came with the motor but I do not have the module. Should I just buy the module for the 84 from the Ford Dealer and hook it up? What else do I need and what else should I know?

KULTULZ · 05-14-2001, 06:02 PM

I assume that you are working with a DURASPARK system (remote module) rather than a TFI (module on dist. hsng.)

You will need a module (Duraspark II-Blue Strain Relief)) and the harness from a donor vehicle. FORD Racing Parts also sells a harness and MSD upgrade.

Duraspark Upgrade

vegasmustang · 05-14-2001, 06:24 PM

KULTULZ, thanks for respondsing. I am a new member and I appreciate the help. I am not sure if its a Duraspark system. I am sure its the stock distributor on the motor. Should I buy the wiring harness as well and how difficult will it be to install? You mentioned an MSD upgrade. Would that be easier?

j's69stang · 05-14-2001, 11:20 PM

go with the msd ignition

KULTULZ · 05-15-2001, 05:23 AM

If the engine came out of a manual transmission car, the distributor will be a Duraspark. If it came out of an automatic car, it will be TFI and cannot be used on your application as TFI is ECM controlled.

You will need to find a Duraspark distributor (used, rebuilt or a billet type) and the harness from a donor car/truck. (Anywheres from 1976 to 1984)

FORD Racing Parts offers a new harness and module. The module is supplied to them by MSD. If you decide to pull the Duraspark system off a donor car, make sure it is a DuraSpark II system as indentified by a blue strain relief where the harness enters the module body.

There was once a website showing how to wire this system into an older chassis, but was taken off. I have a copy of the wiring diagram and also can send you the page out of FRP catalog describing their system upgrade.

E-Mail me and I will be glad to help you further.

KULTULZ@msn.com

Dark Knight · 05-15-2001, 08:16 AM

why not just get a new Dist.? MSD, Mallory, etc... and drop it in? wouldnt have to worry about the module and harness then ;-)

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

Dark Knight · 05-15-2001, 08:30 AM

oh yeah, what tranny are you using? if it's a manual, you'll need an adapter for the for the engine side Z-bar pivot.. the newer blocks dont have the mount cast in.. if you're using an auto, you'll probably need the 50oz flexplate designed for a C-4..the older ones use a 28oz counter balance...

------------------
84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

vegasmustang · 05-15-2001, 11:43 AM

Thanks guys! The donor car had a manual trans so sounds like I will be ok with the dist I have. Now I just need the module and the wiring harness. I will eventually get the MSD, but for now, I just want to get it started. Thanks again.

05-14-2001, 05:19 PM	#1
vegasmustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: las vegas Posts: 6	Putting 84 5.0 in 65 - Help! I put a 84 5.O motor in my 65 Coupe but I am not sure what type of ignition system to use, I have the distributor that came with the motor but I do not have the module. Should I just buy the module for the 84 from the Ford Dealer and hook it up? What else do I need and what else should I know?

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05-14-2001, 06:02 PM	#2
KULTULZ Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WDC/BAL Metro Posts: 17	I assume that you are working with a DURASPARK system (remote module) rather than a TFI (module on dist. hsng.) You will need a module (Duraspark II-Blue Strain Relief)) and the harness from a donor vehicle. FORD Racing Parts also sells a harness and MSD upgrade. Duraspark Upgrade

05-14-2001, 06:24 PM	#3
vegasmustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: las vegas Posts: 6	KULTULZ, thanks for respondsing. I am a new member and I appreciate the help. I am not sure if its a Duraspark system. I am sure its the stock distributor on the motor. Should I buy the wiring harness as well and how difficult will it be to install? You mentioned an MSD upgrade. Would that be easier?

05-14-2001, 11:20 PM	#4
j's69stang Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 102	go with the msd ignition

05-15-2001, 05:23 AM	#5
KULTULZ Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WDC/BAL Metro Posts: 17	If the engine came out of a manual transmission car, the distributor will be a Duraspark. If it came out of an automatic car, it will be TFI and cannot be used on your application as TFI is ECM controlled. You will need to find a Duraspark distributor (used, rebuilt or a billet type) and the harness from a donor car/truck. (Anywheres from 1976 to 1984) FORD Racing Parts offers a new harness and module. The module is supplied to them by MSD. If you decide to pull the Duraspark system off a donor car, make sure it is a DuraSpark II system as indentified by a blue strain relief where the harness enters the module body. There was once a website showing how to wire this system into an older chassis, but was taken off. I have a copy of the wiring diagram and also can send you the page out of FRP catalog describing their system upgrade. E-Mail me and I will be glad to help you further. KULTULZ@msn.com

05-15-2001, 08:16 AM	#6
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	why not just get a new Dist.? MSD, Mallory, etc... and drop it in? wouldnt have to worry about the module and harness then ;-) ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

05-15-2001, 08:30 AM	#7
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	oh yeah, what tranny are you using? if it's a manual, you'll need an adapter for the for the engine side Z-bar pivot.. the newer blocks dont have the mount cast in.. if you're using an auto, you'll probably need the 50oz flexplate designed for a C-4..the older ones use a 28oz counter balance... ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

05-15-2001, 11:43 AM	#8
vegasmustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: las vegas Posts: 6	Thanks guys! The donor car had a manual trans so sounds like I will be ok with the dist I have. Now I just need the module and the wiring harness. I will eventually get the MSD, but for now, I just want to get it started. Thanks again.