noisy valves on a 289

[tfish]

My 15 year old son just picked up a 67 with a 289 2V. The car had been sitting garaged for the past 14 years. We changed the oils re did all the brakes, rebuilt the carb,fuel pump, vacum advance and the thing has been running like a top. It now has a noisy lifter. I checked the book and it seems pretty straight forward to adjust. Any helpfull hints on adjusting lifters would help. Or your thoughts on anything we may have missed on a car setting so long..Tony A

[Gearhead999]

Before you adjust. It shouldn't need adjusting. It might be sticking alittle.

Why don't you try changing the oil and using one or two qt. of ATF with the oil. Run it around alittle. Not on the highway or hard pulls, just around for 100 or so miles and then change it to 5 qts of motor oil. This will clean out a sticking lifter most of the times.

[PKRWUD]

I swear by Slick 50, but that's just me.

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[Gearhead999]

I'm not arguing on what works for you, BUT, have you ever read up on Slick 50??

I did a car radio show for 3 years. You know where the listeners call in with their problems and I diagnos them. Well, got asked lots about Slick 50. So I contacted them in Texas, I think. They weren't much help. Couldn't give me any real world tests except on a Honda Generator. Then one of my listeners had me go to a site about truth in advertising. Their were articles about them and Split-Fire spark plugs being told to change advertising and promises.

Slick 50 is just Mineral oil with Teflon added. Dupont sued Slick 50 over using Teflon in engines. They claimed it wasn't meant to be in an engine. They, Dupont, did lose though. Court ruled that Dupont couldn't tell Slick 50 what they could do with the teflon, as long as it didn't effect health or the enviroment.

Just my $.02.

But if it works use it.

[PKRWUD]

When I was taking my engine rebuilding course at the local cc in the mid 80's, we heard of a Camaro in Washington state that ran with no oil for xxx miles and suffered no damage because it had previously used Slick 50. Feeling challenged, we took one of the dozens of donated cars the college had to work on (burgandy 1977 305 Camaro), changed the oil and filter, and added one quart of Slick 50. The instructor used the car to drive to and from work for one week. We then drained the oil, and drove the car to see what would happen. After 126 miles, we gave up. The next day it still started right up, and seemed to run fine. We refilled it with oil, and it continued to run fine for the next two years that I was taking other classes there. I can't say what happened to it after I finished school because I didn't check in on it. That was good enough for me. I don't care if it's got horse urine in it. What ever it is, I saw it work what I would consider to be a miracle. What I do find funny is that people used to pay $50 a quart for that stuff, and wait for months for it to arrive. The old timers around here talk about it often.

Take care,
-Chris

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[Gearhead999]

Give you one more funny one.

B&M sells a quart of automatic transmission additive called "Trick Shift". I don't know what is in it now, but back 12-15 years ago it was a quart of type "F" transfluid [ford stuff]. It would make the type "A" fluid transmissions [everything else except a Ford] shift alittle harder. I think they were getting $10 a quart or so.

[mustangman65_79]

I have used slick 50 before and didn't notice much difference till I put in some slick 50 for motors over 100,000 miles, even then, not till I drove 500 miles straight(going from Oregon to Cali) that I noticed something. On the drive down, the car seemed to get more power, not just cause of waether or heat, or altitude, because it remained till the motor died cause of a bad thermastat, which made my motor over heat and cracked something.

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[PKRWUD]

Gearhead-
B&M still sells it, although they swear it's not F-type. It is.

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[Rev]

Maybe that's why I couldn't tell any difference with the B&M TrickShift ($35 worth) and regular old type F in my C-4, LOL.

Rev

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[PKRWUD]

Rev-
You and every other Ford owner! But dem Chevy boys think it's slick as snot! Gladly pay top dollar for dat dare Trick Shift! Yee-Haw.

Sorry Chevy guys, but it's true.

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[Rev]

Yep, I bit. B&M has been around almost as long as I have (Hydro-stick), so I believed that the TrickShift fluid would be advantageous. Oh well, live and learn.

Rev

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[Dave68]

I am 15 1/2 also. I just bought a 68 with a 289. Has a lot of miles on it but it runs good and doesn't smoke. I also have some lifter noise. Where do I get this stuff that you guys are talking about and what do I ask for? Also, how much do I put in?

Dave

[PKRWUD]

Dave-
The stuff I'm talking about is called Slick50, and is available at any auto parts store for $10-$15 for a quart. Buy 1 quart of Slick50 and 4 quarts of regular motor oil, and a new oil filter, and go home and change your oil. When adding the new oil, pour in the Slick50. It will help free up sticky lifters and such, usually within a few minutes. For engines that weren't properly cared for, and that haven't seen regular oil changes, it may take a little longer. Anyway, that's it. Just leave it until the next time you change your oil, at which time you can just use 5 quarts of regular oil. I add a quart of Slick50 to my oil change every 50k miles.

Rev-
B&M is a good company, but they pretty much put F-type in a can and called it Trick Shift. The reason this worked, and was so popular was because there were so many more GM automatic transmissions in use than there were Fords, and F-type added to a GM tranny will make it shift very hard. Remember, the whole point of the auto tranny was to make the passengers not even notice the shifting. It was supposed to just "glide" through the gears. To help this along, Dexron became the GM fluid of choice, mainly because it had more lubricants in it. Dexron was to F-type what Slick50 is to conventional oil. So, if you were to add a quart of hydraulic fluid with minimal lubricating properties to a transmission that is accustomed to excessive slipping, it's going to bite, and shift harder. Problem is, GM transmission internals (clutch disks) weren't made up of the same, tough material as the same parts in Ford trannies, so when you reduced the lubrication, you increased the wear. Using F-type or Trick Shift in an otherwise stock GM tranny will spell it's doom within a few months. Now, when you rebuilt your GM tranny with B&M parts, or better yet, bought a B&M rebuilt tranny, the parts were tougher, and permitted Trick Shift. In fact, if you ran Dexron in a B&M GM rebuilt, your tranny would slip so bad you might need help getting home. It used to be common to carry a quart of F-type around with you in your older, stock GM tranny equipped car in case it started to slip, just so you could get home. Anyway, this didn't do much for the Ford owners. They basically already used Trick Shift, just for alot less money.

Take care,
-Chris

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[mustangman65_79]

That may solve a few problems with my friends tranny. Haha, and they say chevy's are better.

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