Mach 1 and Boss 302 in Motor Trend

Harry · 08-06-2001, 09:45 AM

Did you guys see the article in Motor Trend magazine where they were outlining the history of the Mustangs and Camaros? One little side bullet said that Ford was putting out some limited edition mustangs for the next few years. Obviously, this years was the Bullitt. Next year will be a Mach 1 with a supercharged 4.6. Then the year after that will be a BOSS 302, with, you guessed it, a 302 engine.

Any clue where you can put a down payment on one of these? Anyone hear anything else about this?

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RAGE_5.0 · 08-06-2001, 05:03 PM

as much as i like the mach 1's i will start saving for the boss.......the boss when it came out and since then has been in my opinion the grand daddy of all mustangs whether its a 302,351,or the fastest production mustang of all time besides the new cobra r the boss 429...... do we know yet whether it is gonna be a supercharged 302 or n/a???????? i can't wait......hopefully they make as many as the bullitts that way u won't have to look to hard to find one

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Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock
not for long

Unit 5302 · 08-06-2001, 06:01 PM

The Boss 429 was a beast to be sure, but the Mach 1 428 would out accelerate the Boss 429. So would the Boss 351. The front end weight bias made it nearly impossible to launch a stock Boss 429.

As far as 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, the new Cobra has been tested (again, according to mags) quicker than any full production Mustang in history. That includes the Mach 1, the Boss 429, the Shelby GT500, etc.

Mercury · 08-07-2001, 01:47 AM

Werent the Boss 9's horribly under carburated from the factory, and didnt they have a relatively Mild cam for what the heads, and valves would flow.

I've heard that those things can build MAD amounts of power with just a cam and carb change.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax
64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

95mustanggt · 08-07-2001, 08:59 AM

Oh man! If the Mach 1 is in 2002 and the Boss in 2003, when is the new mustang body released? Will they but the Boss option on the new chasis?

Or will we have 3 kick *** cars to choose from?

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1995 Mustang GT

bigwhitecobra · 08-07-2001, 10:02 AM

This may be kinda, sorta off the subject, but shouldn't Ford make the R engine an option for the Cobra? Look at it this way, Ford has already been comparing the newer 'Stangs to the 'Vette, and to really up the ante, shouldn't we have a car do compete with the 'Vette? Just my $0.02. Later.

95mustanggt · 08-07-2001, 11:18 AM

Is the 5.4 a SOHC or a DOHC?

I agree, offering the 5.4 in the Cobra would be awesome

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1995 Mustang GT

Harry · 08-07-2001, 12:09 PM

I agree with ya, bigwhitecobra, but the article said they were not planning on producing a car that could match up with the 'vette. But it would be fun, though, wouldn't it?

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bigwhitecobra · 08-09-2001, 12:27 AM

Look at it this way, IF Ford was to put the 5.4 (DOHC) R motor in the Cobra as and option, GM could NEVER bring back the Camaro and Firechicken. The Cobra would have too much of a reputation for anyone to take the Slowmaro crowd seriously. I realize that this is just wishful thinking, but why in God's name would they tease us with the R and not use some of it's better points? Guess it's just like the FR500, but I won't go there now, I'm too tired and that is way too long of a discussion. Later.

95mustanggt · 08-09-2001, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigwhitecobra:
Look at it this way, IF Ford was to put the 5.4 (DOHC) R motor in the Cobra as and option, GM could NEVER bring back the Camaro and Firechicken. The Cobra would have too much of a reputation for anyone to take the Slowmaro crowd seriously. I realize that this is just wishful thinking, but why in God's name would they tease us with the R and not use some of it's better points? Guess it's just like the FR500, but I won't go there now, I'm too tired and that is way too long of a discussion. Later.

Never under estimate the competition

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1995 Mustang GT

95mustanggt · 08-09-2001, 09:00 AM

Actually I found this picture. I think this is one cool looking mustang:

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1995 Mustang GT

08-09-2001, 10:50 AM

The Mach 1 was the greastest Mustang ever made in my opinion. Maybe that is because I own one. But anyway, I can't wait to see what they look like.

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Bia Bia!!! 89' 5.0 GT Convertible Mustang and a 69' Mustang Mach 1 Fastback. If you want to know the rest, buy the rights.
AOL name: Woodnutz351

bigwhitecobra · 08-09-2001, 11:49 AM

What the heck is under the hood of that thing?!? I haven't seen a bulging hood like that since.......well, the R models of '95 and '00. Are they trying to tell us something?

Never under estimate the competition, huh? Hmm, even if the competition comes back as a front drive V6? Sorry, had to do it.

Harry · 08-09-2001, 12:33 PM

Gotta love that big hood. And I especially like the black wheels to match the car.

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95mustanggt · 08-09-2001, 02:05 PM

BWC, you think the GM F bodies are going to come back as a FWD V6? Man I'm glad that I'm not a chevy guy.

Atleast us Mustangers fought off fords urge to dump that crap on us (probe).

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1995 Mustang GT

RAGE_5.0 · 08-09-2001, 02:11 PM

hey just because they did it to the impala, malibu and the monte carlo doesn't mean they will do it to the camaro,firebird, and trans am..............personally i don't think gm would lower themselves like that........the f bodies are the best cars they have had (along side nova,chevelle) and if they bring them back as fwd no matter if it is v8 or v6 it is a disgrace to their hard work of the past in creating such a monster...as much as i want an f body(firebird formula) ifg they bring them back as anything less then they are right now i won't even look in their direction

JAMES

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Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock
not for long

bigwhitecobra · 08-10-2001, 12:57 PM

Sorry James. But from what I have been told, expect to see a V6 FWD Z-28 somewhere in the near future. Sad isn't it? Now, I can't say for sure(of course) but I think this year is the last year for the F-bodies until 2002 maybe 2003. Then they will become a Ricer's wet dream. Thank God I drive and love Ford's.

95mustanggt · 08-10-2001, 01:29 PM

Ouch that's gotta hurt if you are a chevy guy. Atlest the F-Bodies went out with a bang. The new LS1's are pretty impressive in stock trim.

However the all the dumb things GM is doing it, in some ways, doesn't surprise me.

Unfortunately that will mean more dam fart pipes on the road. I wonder if Mustang sales will go up?

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1995 Mustang GT

08-06-2001, 09:45 AM	#1
Harry Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Dayton, OH USA Posts: 678	Mach 1 and Boss 302 in Motor Trend Did you guys see the article in Motor Trend magazine where they were outlining the history of the Mustangs and Camaros? One little side bullet said that Ford was putting out some limited edition mustangs for the next few years. Obviously, this years was the Bullitt. Next year will be a Mach 1 with a supercharged 4.6. Then the year after that will be a BOSS 302, with, you guessed it, a 302 engine. Any clue where you can put a down payment on one of these? Anyone hear anything else about this? ------------------ See my 1985 Mustang GT

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RAGE_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Leamington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 767	as much as i like the mach 1's i will start saving for the boss.......the boss when it came out and since then has been in my opinion the grand daddy of all mustangs whether its a 302,351,or the fastest production mustang of all time besides the new cobra r the boss 429...... do we know yet whether it is gonna be a supercharged 302 or n/a???????? i can't wait......hopefully they make as many as the bullitts that way u won't have to look to hard to find one ------------------ Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock not for long

08-06-2001, 06:01 PM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	The Boss 429 was a beast to be sure, but the Mach 1 428 would out accelerate the Boss 429. So would the Boss 351. The front end weight bias made it nearly impossible to launch a stock Boss 429. As far as 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, the new Cobra has been tested (again, according to mags) quicker than any full production Mustang in history. That includes the Mach 1, the Boss 429, the Shelby GT500, etc.

08-07-2001, 01:47 AM	#4
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Werent the Boss 9's horribly under carburated from the factory, and didnt they have a relatively Mild cam for what the heads, and valves would flow. I've heard that those things can build MAD amounts of power with just a cam and carb change. ------------------ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

08-07-2001, 08:59 AM	#5
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Oh man! If the Mach 1 is in 2002 and the Boss in 2003, when is the new mustang body released? Will they but the Boss option on the new chasis? Or will we have 3 kick *** cars to choose from? ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT

08-07-2001, 10:02 AM	#6
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	This may be kinda, sorta off the subject, but shouldn't Ford make the R engine an option for the Cobra? Look at it this way, Ford has already been comparing the newer 'Stangs to the 'Vette, and to really up the ante, shouldn't we have a car do compete with the 'Vette? Just my $0.02. Later.

08-07-2001, 11:18 AM	#7
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Is the 5.4 a SOHC or a DOHC? I agree, offering the 5.4 in the Cobra would be awesome ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT

08-07-2001, 12:09 PM	#8
Harry Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Dayton, OH USA Posts: 678	I agree with ya, bigwhitecobra, but the article said they were not planning on producing a car that could match up with the 'vette. But it would be fun, though, wouldn't it? ------------------ See my 1985 Mustang GT

08-09-2001, 12:27 AM	#9
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Look at it this way, IF Ford was to put the 5.4 (DOHC) R motor in the Cobra as and option, GM could NEVER bring back the Camaro and Firechicken. The Cobra would have too much of a reputation for anyone to take the Slowmaro crowd seriously. I realize that this is just wishful thinking, but why in God's name would they tease us with the R and not use some of it's better points? Guess it's just like the FR500, but I won't go there now, I'm too tired and that is way too long of a discussion. Later.

08-09-2001, 09:00 AM	#11
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Actually I found this picture. I think this is one cool looking mustang: ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT

08-09-2001, 10:50 AM	#12
1BadMoFo5.0 Guest Posts: n/a	The Mach 1 was the greastest Mustang ever made in my opinion. Maybe that is because I own one. But anyway, I can't wait to see what they look like. ------------------ Bia Bia!!! 89' 5.0 GT Convertible Mustang and a 69' Mustang Mach 1 Fastback. If you want to know the rest, buy the rights. AOL name: Woodnutz351

08-09-2001, 11:49 AM	#13
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	What the heck is under the hood of that thing?!? I haven't seen a bulging hood like that since.......well, the R models of '95 and '00. Are they trying to tell us something? Never under estimate the competition, huh? Hmm, even if the competition comes back as a front drive V6? Sorry, had to do it.

08-09-2001, 12:33 PM	#14
Harry Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Dayton, OH USA Posts: 678	Gotta love that big hood. And I especially like the black wheels to match the car. ------------------ See my 1985 Mustang GT

08-09-2001, 02:05 PM	#15
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	BWC, you think the GM F bodies are going to come back as a FWD V6? Man I'm glad that I'm not a chevy guy. Atleast us Mustangers fought off fords urge to dump that crap on us (probe). ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT

08-09-2001, 02:11 PM	#16
RAGE_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Leamington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 767	hey just because they did it to the impala, malibu and the monte carlo doesn't mean they will do it to the camaro,firebird, and trans am..............personally i don't think gm would lower themselves like that........the f bodies are the best cars they have had (along side nova,chevelle) and if they bring them back as fwd no matter if it is v8 or v6 it is a disgrace to their hard work of the past in creating such a monster...as much as i want an f body(firebird formula) ifg they bring them back as anything less then they are right now i won't even look in their direction JAMES ------------------ Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock not for long

08-10-2001, 12:57 PM	#17
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Sorry James. But from what I have been told, expect to see a V6 FWD Z-28 somewhere in the near future. Sad isn't it? Now, I can't say for sure(of course) but I think this year is the last year for the F-bodies until 2002 maybe 2003. Then they will become a Ricer's wet dream. Thank God I drive and love Ford's.

08-10-2001, 01:29 PM	#18
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Ouch that's gotta hurt if you are a chevy guy. Atlest the F-Bodies went out with a bang. The new LS1's are pretty impressive in stock trim. However the all the dumb things GM is doing it, in some ways, doesn't surprise me. Unfortunately that will mean more dam fart pipes on the road. I wonder if Mustang sales will go up? ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT