can you swap an auto tran for a 5 speed easily?

JM90GT · 04-02-2001, 10:27 AM

I am going to have to replace my tranny soon. But if I can put a standard transmission in her that would make it worth having to do it in the first place. What I want to know is is the work maybe to much for a guy who is learning. I mean all I've done is small work, this would be a bigger project. Or should I just have it done.

Green92LX · 04-02-2001, 10:33 AM

If you are confident in yourself enough to take it apart, then go for it. It is a VERY easy job, at least for me. You will have some people say its cake and others would rather have their eyes poked out of their heads.

If you are only used to doing "little" work, then have it done, but I learned all those years ago by just taking it apart and doing it.

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1992 LX:V-1 S-Trim ,Edelbrock 6037 Heads,Cobra Intake,E-303,1.6 Rollers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP,24 lb injectors,MSD 6A and BTM,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers,Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors,Ponies w/ 225/50 Nitto NT 450's on front,255/50 BFG Drags out back,93 Cobra Spoiler
Daily driver 89 Coupe:BBK shorties,offroad,flowturds with dumps,soon to be cyber green

LX XLR8R · 04-02-2001, 01:06 PM

its not that big of a job..maybee im just saying this cuz most car stuff comes second hand to me..changing the tranny is easy..just take the odl one out and put the new one in..run the clutch cable(easy)..the pain in the @ss(butt not difficult) part is swapping the pedal assembly..you need a take out from aa 5 speed car..you will also need to jump a wire to get the car to start(or you need to change the tranny harness)..

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1987 black notch(ex 4 banger)
DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..
AIM=onesillynotch

dinomite · 04-02-2001, 02:59 PM

Ya, you need the pedal assembally out of another car (the entire thing, brake and clutch pedals), make sure you get all the little electronic bits that are attached to those too. You need to get the rubber insulator, console cover, and shift boot as well, cause even if ford does still sell them, they will be excitingly expensive. Anyone know what year cars the pedals can come out of? Same year will work (obviously) and I'd assume that the fox bodies would be interchangable (79-93) but what about the sn95s?

Check this out too: http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...ap/index.shtml

[This message has been edited by dinomite (edited 04-02-2001).]

04-02-2001, 06:28 PM

I hope it's not too hard, cause I'm planning the same type of thing this summer, and I think Im in about the same boat as JM. I have heard about people having driveabilty probs with the auto comp and 5-speed, is this all realated to the harness you were talking about? Is it a big rewire job to switch the harnesses or the little part that you have to do? Also, is it true that the auto comps have better fuel/timing curves? sorry for asking all this in your post, and thanks for any info.

Strim91GT · 04-02-2001, 06:51 PM

I did the T-5 swap in mine about a year ago. I've had no driveability problems at all. I agree the biggest part was changing the pedals out. I got my pedal assembly from Mustang Parts Specialties in georgia. for $225 i think. (www.stangparts.com) The guy i got my T-5 from had the backup wiring harness on the trans already. But I had no problems with the neutral start switch with the automatic computer. Since it's an automatic computer i can start the car without having to push in the clutch pedal. I've got a vortech S trim and aluminum heads and cobra intake and all the other goodies with 4.10 gears. So i just ruined my T-5 about a week ago and am looking to go Tremec TKO. Ohh besides what these guys have mentioned you will need a spacer plate from a 5 liter with a manual transmission. the automatic spacer plate on mine did not work. If you're planning on doing some good mods later on, i would seriously consider a Tremec trans. It could save you from doing it twice. It's a little more to begin with, but since you have no manual trans or clutch or anything to start with i would really consider skipping the T-5 and going Tremec. I know i wish i would have now.

Big&bad89rag: I am from the hutchinson area and would be happy to talk to you about it.

04-02-2001, 08:14 PM

Strim: dont see too many people from around here on this, ever come cruisin in Hutch? I drive a black/silver '89 rag, and have a couple friends with a black '93 coupe, a guy with a maroon/silver gt hatch, and a guy that comes in sometimes w/ a blown blue/silver gt w/ cobra r's (is that you?) any way, post an e-mail or ill see ya around (before I get too off topic) we need to get a 5.0 night goin or something around here.

Strim91GT · 04-02-2001, 10:36 PM

Well, as the Strim name goes. I'm the one with the blown ultra blue metallic and titanium gt with cobra r's.

04-02-2001, 10:27 AM	#1
JM90GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Bartlesville OK Posts: 68	can you swap an auto tran for a 5 speed easily? I am going to have to replace my tranny soon. But if I can put a standard transmission in her that would make it worth having to do it in the first place. What I want to know is is the work maybe to much for a guy who is learning. I mean all I've done is small work, this would be a bigger project. Or should I just have it done.

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04-02-2001, 10:33 AM	#2
Green92LX Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: North Haven,CT Posts: 336	If you are confident in yourself enough to take it apart, then go for it. It is a VERY easy job, at least for me. You will have some people say its cake and others would rather have their eyes poked out of their heads. If you are only used to doing "little" work, then have it done, but I learned all those years ago by just taking it apart and doing it. ------------------ 1992 LX:V-1 S-Trim ,Edelbrock 6037 Heads,Cobra Intake,E-303,1.6 Rollers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP,24 lb injectors,MSD 6A and BTM,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers,Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors,Ponies w/ 225/50 Nitto NT 450's on front,255/50 BFG Drags out back,93 Cobra Spoiler Daily driver 89 Coupe:BBK shorties,offroad,flowturds with dumps,soon to be cyber green

04-02-2001, 01:06 PM	#3
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	its not that big of a job..maybee im just saying this cuz most car stuff comes second hand to me..changing the tranny is easy..just take the odl one out and put the new one in..run the clutch cable(easy)..the pain in the @ss(butt not difficult) part is swapping the pedal assembly..you need a take out from aa 5 speed car..you will also need to jump a wire to get the car to start(or you need to change the tranny harness).. ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one.. AIM=onesillynotch

04-02-2001, 02:59 PM	#4
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Ya, you need the pedal assembally out of another car (the entire thing, brake and clutch pedals), make sure you get all the little electronic bits that are attached to those too. You need to get the rubber insulator, console cover, and shift boot as well, cause even if ford does still sell them, they will be excitingly expensive. Anyone know what year cars the pedals can come out of? Same year will work (obviously) and I'd assume that the fox bodies would be interchangable (79-93) but what about the sn95s? Check this out too: http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...ap/index.shtml [This message has been edited by dinomite (edited 04-02-2001).]

04-02-2001, 06:28 PM	#5
Big&bad89rag Guest Posts: n/a	I hope it's not too hard, cause I'm planning the same type of thing this summer, and I think Im in about the same boat as JM. I have heard about people having driveabilty probs with the auto comp and 5-speed, is this all realated to the harness you were talking about? Is it a big rewire job to switch the harnesses or the little part that you have to do? Also, is it true that the auto comps have better fuel/timing curves? sorry for asking all this in your post, and thanks for any info.

04-02-2001, 06:51 PM	#6
Strim91GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 59	I did the T-5 swap in mine about a year ago. I've had no driveability problems at all. I agree the biggest part was changing the pedals out. I got my pedal assembly from Mustang Parts Specialties in georgia. for $225 i think. (www.stangparts.com) The guy i got my T-5 from had the backup wiring harness on the trans already. But I had no problems with the neutral start switch with the automatic computer. Since it's an automatic computer i can start the car without having to push in the clutch pedal. I've got a vortech S trim and aluminum heads and cobra intake and all the other goodies with 4.10 gears. So i just ruined my T-5 about a week ago and am looking to go Tremec TKO. Ohh besides what these guys have mentioned you will need a spacer plate from a 5 liter with a manual transmission. the automatic spacer plate on mine did not work. If you're planning on doing some good mods later on, i would seriously consider a Tremec trans. It could save you from doing it twice. It's a little more to begin with, but since you have no manual trans or clutch or anything to start with i would really consider skipping the T-5 and going Tremec. I know i wish i would have now. Big&bad89rag: I am from the hutchinson area and would be happy to talk to you about it.

04-02-2001, 08:14 PM	#7
Big&bad89rag Guest Posts: n/a	Strim: dont see too many people from around here on this, ever come cruisin in Hutch? I drive a black/silver '89 rag, and have a couple friends with a black '93 coupe, a guy with a maroon/silver gt hatch, and a guy that comes in sometimes w/ a blown blue/silver gt w/ cobra r's (is that you?) any way, post an e-mail or ill see ya around (before I get too off topic) we need to get a 5.0 night goin or something around here.

04-02-2001, 10:36 PM	#8
Strim91GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 59	Well, as the Strim name goes. I'm the one with the blown ultra blue metallic and titanium gt with cobra r's.