Cermakrome (Jet Hot) Coating for Headers

diablopony · 07-05-2001, 11:02 PM

I'm shopping headers for my 289 and I'm wondering if anyone has gone the ceramic coating route. Does this really help with the heat dissipation? How well does it last? Any blueing problems like the nickel plated headers?

Also, I'm kinda liking the tri-ys. Any other thoughts?

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'68 convert, 289, C-4, Edelbrock Performer package

Ron1 · 07-05-2001, 11:42 PM

Yes...have used it on all my headers and even complete exhaust systems. Helps a lot with heat dissipation, and will last forever if done right. Most aftermarket companies apply 2 coats and then tumble the headers to get that real polished look. Unfortunately that removes a lot of the coating. It's a lot better to buy the headers uncoated, then have it done locally, but do not tumble. They end up dull after a while anyway. Never had a blueing problem. The Tri-y's are good, but how about a JBA equal lenght shortie or Hooker long tubes.

Ron

jwboner · 07-06-2001, 01:04 AM

I went with the black coat because it was cheaper, withstands higher heat, and was told it holds up better. I bought hooker super comps, stripped the factory paint and repainted with black ceramic myself. Strip with an aircraft paint remover(this part is really messy) And repainted using my airbrush. They've been in for almost a year and only problem is when you scrape over something, but you can just touch it up before it rusts and will be fine. You can buy it directly from manufacturer cheap, I forget the name but it shouldn't be hard to find out. I saved about $300. They work excellent at keeping heat in, with my car running hot, turn it off and five to ten minutes later you can touch the header but not the untreated pipe behind the headers.

gp001 · 07-06-2001, 11:56 PM

I have Flowtech full length headers on my 347. I but the ceramic coated version and have never been happier. Disapates the heat, keeps interior temp lower, and looks good. Mine have been in the car for about 8000 miles and still look great. I clean them with the same car wash soap I use on the car. DEFINATELY recommend it

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347 (Coast High short block), 279/284, TFS TW heads, Stealth, 750 Holley, Flowtech hdrs, Dr. Gas X, 2 Chmbr Flowmaster, MSD 6AL-Dist.& SS coil, March serpentine pulley system, Art Carr C-4 (Soon to be a Richmond 6 spd, Currie 9" w/3.55, alum Drv Shft, susp mods, Total Control subframes & tower braces, Trans Am Racing power dual master, 4 wheel disc, 17x8 Torqthrust II's
Something up my sleeve

In a 66 coupe

Fostang · 07-07-2001, 02:29 AM

I have them on the 67' fastback and the 70' Torino. Work great and look great. No complains about them.

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67'fastback-Edelbrock carb,intake,cam,valve springs.Rhode lifters, CompCam rocker arms, windage tray,cerama coated headers,dual flows with H-pipe, modded c-4,tci stall converter,perma cool electric fan,aluminum water pump,griffen aluminum radiator,accel 8.8 cable,wide cap distriburator,magnetic pick up,v-matic hurst shifter,edelbrock performer nitrous, carter electric fuel pump,ignitor coil,solid motor mounts,magna racing suspension,poly urathane bushings,under rider traction bars, comp. eng. s

Gearhead999 · 07-07-2001, 08:46 AM

On my 68 FB, with 289, I used Hookers with the HPC coating. Very good, would do it again for sure. After 10 years there are a few spots that it is off of. But, they are down at the road where something has hit or scrapped it off.

[This message has been edited by Gearhead999 (edited 07-07-2001).]

amartin725 · 07-10-2001, 04:03 PM

Ceramic coating will help them last a long time. Try www.hyperkote.com They offer good service and their prices are reasonable.

Al

diablopony · 07-12-2001, 08:00 PM

Thanks for all your input on this. I'm sold. Sounds like the way to go is to buy the headers and then get the ceramic coating done.

Do I need to put the headers on first just to be sure that they fit without some tweaking or are most headers now pretty much bolt up? I'm still thinking the Tri-Ys.

Thanks again for the advice.

07-05-2001, 11:02 PM	#1
diablopony Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Clayton, CA USA Posts: 116	Cermakrome (Jet Hot) Coating for Headers I'm shopping headers for my 289 and I'm wondering if anyone has gone the ceramic coating route. Does this really help with the heat dissipation? How well does it last? Any blueing problems like the nickel plated headers? Also, I'm kinda liking the tri-ys. Any other thoughts? ------------------ '68 convert, 289, C-4, Edelbrock Performer package

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07-05-2001, 11:42 PM	#2
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	Yes...have used it on all my headers and even complete exhaust systems. Helps a lot with heat dissipation, and will last forever if done right. Most aftermarket companies apply 2 coats and then tumble the headers to get that real polished look. Unfortunately that removes a lot of the coating. It's a lot better to buy the headers uncoated, then have it done locally, but do not tumble. They end up dull after a while anyway. Never had a blueing problem. The Tri-y's are good, but how about a JBA equal lenght shortie or Hooker long tubes. Ron

07-06-2001, 01:04 AM	#3
jwboner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Under the hood Posts: 164	I went with the black coat because it was cheaper, withstands higher heat, and was told it holds up better. I bought hooker super comps, stripped the factory paint and repainted with black ceramic myself. Strip with an aircraft paint remover(this part is really messy) And repainted using my airbrush. They've been in for almost a year and only problem is when you scrape over something, but you can just touch it up before it rusts and will be fine. You can buy it directly from manufacturer cheap, I forget the name but it shouldn't be hard to find out. I saved about $300. They work excellent at keeping heat in, with my car running hot, turn it off and five to ten minutes later you can touch the header but not the untreated pipe behind the headers.

07-06-2001, 11:56 PM	#4
gp001 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 244	I have Flowtech full length headers on my 347. I but the ceramic coated version and have never been happier. Disapates the heat, keeps interior temp lower, and looks good. Mine have been in the car for about 8000 miles and still look great. I clean them with the same car wash soap I use on the car. DEFINATELY recommend it ------------------ 347 (Coast High short block), 279/284, TFS TW heads, Stealth, 750 Holley, Flowtech hdrs, Dr. Gas X, 2 Chmbr Flowmaster, MSD 6AL-Dist.& SS coil, March serpentine pulley system, Art Carr C-4 (Soon to be a Richmond 6 spd, Currie 9" w/3.55, alum Drv Shft, susp mods, Total Control subframes & tower braces, Trans Am Racing power dual master, 4 wheel disc, 17x8 Torqthrust II's Something up my sleeve In a 66 coupe

07-07-2001, 02:29 AM	#5
Fostang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 599	I have them on the 67' fastback and the 70' Torino. Work great and look great. No complains about them. ------------------ 67'fastback-Edelbrock carb,intake,cam,valve springs.Rhode lifters, CompCam rocker arms, windage tray,cerama coated headers,dual flows with H-pipe, modded c-4,tci stall converter,perma cool electric fan,aluminum water pump,griffen aluminum radiator,accel 8.8 cable,wide cap distriburator,magnetic pick up,v-matic hurst shifter,edelbrock performer nitrous, carter electric fuel pump,ignitor coil,solid motor mounts,magna racing suspension,poly urathane bushings,under rider traction bars, comp. eng. s

07-07-2001, 08:46 AM	#6
Gearhead999 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 992	On my 68 FB, with 289, I used Hookers with the HPC coating. Very good, would do it again for sure. After 10 years there are a few spots that it is off of. But, they are down at the road where something has hit or scrapped it off. [This message has been edited by Gearhead999 (edited 07-07-2001).]

07-10-2001, 04:03 PM	#7
amartin725 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 46	Ceramic coating will help them last a long time. Try www.hyperkote.com They offer good service and their prices are reasonable. Al

07-12-2001, 08:00 PM	#8
diablopony Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Clayton, CA USA Posts: 116	Thanks for all your input on this. I'm sold. Sounds like the way to go is to buy the headers and then get the ceramic coating done. Do I need to put the headers on first just to be sure that they fit without some tweaking or are most headers now pretty much bolt up? I'm still thinking the Tri-Ys. Thanks again for the advice.