C-4 to Toploader
 

How much trouble is it to go from a C-4 to a toploader? what needs to be added and what will match up. its a 69 mustang coupe factory 302 c-4.

I did that swap a number of years ago on a '68 coupe (basically the same underneath). I found a donor car for the clutch and brake pedal assembly, clutch fulcrum, clutch actuating rod, clutch fork, throwout bearing (new), flywheel & bolts, pilot bearing (new), bellhousing and clutch & pressure plate (new). I also had to change the aluminum "head" on the starter to fit the standard tranny. The trans mount and driveshaft should be the same. After assembling all the parts, be prepared to spend the better part of a weekend for the swap and exercise those biceps for lifting the toploader!

yeah but if you like throwing your own gears, like me, its well worth it. the toploader is wicked tough, can handle more punishment than T5s and automatics in stock form and a lot more fun on the street. i have only 2 regrets on mine.....its kinda heavy and i wish i had a 5th gear sometimes but you cant beat it in any other catergory. besides your car will be worth more as a 4 speed. be sure NOT to get a truck style toploader. there were others besides the ones from musclecar era that had very low first gear......not for performance, and they were basically 3 speeds. also if you have the time and plan on racing with it, have a machinist go through it and shave the necessary pieces so you can powershift. ive been told detent pins/synchronizers can be machined for smooth quick shifts. mine isnt done yet, probably costing me a few tenths.

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67stang coupe, carb on 5.0, 4 speed, 4.11's....8.41 @ 83mph in 1/8 wanting 7's

if your going to drive it a lot or any distince go to a t5 tranmision i have a 67 fastback 289 10 to 1 pistions 5/8 cam & 302 heads the 4 speed is fine for crousing in town but you run a lot higer rpm on highway mine ran 27 to28 \100 at 60 mph with 4 speed with 5 out 0f 89 stang it runs 19/100 it just samething to thinkabout

I'm in the middle of installing a Top Loader on my '65 Stang. Originally I bought a new T5, but I'm afraid it won't hold up to the power I want to make.

By the way, if anyone wants to buy a new T5 just let me know.

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'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.