Should I add a cold air system to the C&l meter?

v8thunder · 06-21-2003, 03:33 PM

I have the 80mm C&l kit in my 99 GT and I was wondering if it would be worth it to put in a true cold air system rather then rely on that crappy little heat shield they give you. I dont think that shield does very much. My car seems to lose its edge after it warms up all they way, is that normal? Thanks!!

96_4.6 · 06-21-2003, 06:50 PM

C&L says not too.

stangt00 · 06-22-2003, 11:47 AM

Reason the C&L wolnt work with a true cold air is because the bend from the CA pipe disturbs the airflow and does not get properly read by the meter. The C&L re-uses your existing meter, and if you look into the mass air, you can see how the factory meter isnt perfectly mated with the pickup tube of the housing. I am switching to a Pro-M , or a lightning myself.

96_4.6 · 06-22-2003, 12:54 PM

For the 94-98 gt's wouldnt a 90mm lighting mass air be too much, I'm just askin cause I know a bigger TB on a stock engine is overkill in most if not all cases, thanks

stangt00 · 06-22-2003, 06:38 PM

Definitely. You can lose power with too big a mass air, and or throttle body. Me, Im getting new SHM P&P heads, and custom grind cams. So it wouldnt be too big for my setup.

95mustanggt · 06-23-2003, 01:40 PM

I just had to pull my CAI kit off because of crappy air flow with the stock MAF

I guess it's not really a bug deal, you don't notice any power increase with one anyways.

06-21-2003, 03:33 PM	#1
v8thunder Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2	Should I add a cold air system to the C&l meter? I have the 80mm C&l kit in my 99 GT and I was wondering if it would be worth it to put in a true cold air system rather then rely on that crappy little heat shield they give you. I dont think that shield does very much. My car seems to lose its edge after it warms up all they way, is that normal? Thanks!!

06-21-2003, 06:50 PM	#2
96_4.6 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 417	C&L says not too. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, AODE -Trickflow Upper Plenum -BBK 70mm Throttlebody -02 PI Lower Intake -March Pulleys -BBK H-Pipe -2 Chamber Flowmaster mufflers -3000 RPM Stall -JLT CAI with special K&N -MSD Supercondutor wires -180 stat -FRPP 4:10's *FOR SALE C&L TRUE FLOW INLET PIPE WITH K&N* My Stang

06-22-2003, 11:47 AM	#3
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	Reason the C&L wolnt work with a true cold air is because the bend from the CA pipe disturbs the airflow and does not get properly read by the meter. The C&L re-uses your existing meter, and if you look into the mass air, you can see how the factory meter isnt perfectly mated with the pickup tube of the housing. I am switching to a Pro-M , or a lightning myself. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

06-22-2003, 12:54 PM	#4
96_4.6 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 417	For the 94-98 gt's wouldnt a 90mm lighting mass air be too much, I'm just askin cause I know a bigger TB on a stock engine is overkill in most if not all cases, thanks __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, AODE -Trickflow Upper Plenum -BBK 70mm Throttlebody -02 PI Lower Intake -March Pulleys -BBK H-Pipe -2 Chamber Flowmaster mufflers -3000 RPM Stall -JLT CAI with special K&N -MSD Supercondutor wires -180 stat -FRPP 4:10's *FOR SALE C&L TRUE FLOW INLET PIPE WITH K&N* My Stang

06-22-2003, 06:38 PM	#5
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	Definitely. You can lose power with too big a mass air, and or throttle body. Me, Im getting new SHM P&P heads, and custom grind cams. So it wouldnt be too big for my setup. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

06-23-2003, 01:40 PM	#6
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	I just had to pull my CAI kit off because of crappy air flow with the stock MAF I guess it's not really a bug deal, you don't notice any power increase with one anyways. __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

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