I can't see this being good.....
 

Well I got my car last night, and took it out with some frineds, I was in the car with my buddy, and 2 other friends behind me in his Cavaliar, and a Porsche 944 beside me, we were talking abit and decided we'd fool everyone and take off real slow, so we did and then I heard him hit it and then I stepped on it. Either way I had him for 1/4 but as soon as he hit 5th he got a few cars ahead of me, anyway we were flying at about 140mph and I was shitting myself cause a old car is not ment to go that fast. lol Anyway I kept up pretty good with the Porsche, we pulled into a coffee shop to discuss our little race and he asked me what I had under the hood. And a few minutes later my friend shows up. lol And we're all talking. But here is the problem, now my car makes out groaning noise when I'm slowing down under like 30-40mph. If I down shift or come to a stop it'll make a groan then it'll stop. It sounds like it's only coming from the rear right tire. Any info would be great. I took a quick look when I got home and it looked fine to me but that wasn't much of a indepth look. But let me tell you with the new carb and intake setup this baby is SWEEET! I thoguht my car's throttle response was amazing before, now it's INSAIN! lol :D I can't wait tell lunch and I can drive her again. :D

§am.

This is just a "WILD" guess but it sounds like you blew the rear end. Does it wine or make any odd noises when you accelerate or only when there is a decrease in speed ? Have you been 'Breaking the tires loose' latley / during the start of a race?
Sounds like the ring and pinion need to be looked at.

I agree check the rear end out.....possably the brakes.


140!?!?....in your car....lmao....I don't think so.

Put the back up in the air with stands under the axle, as close to the tires as you can, block the front wheels, and start it. Put it in first, and let it go. The idle will keep it running. If it doesn't start shaking, take a look and listen, and see what you can find. If it does start to "shake", something is seriously out of balance, and you need to have it looked at.

Take care,
~Chris

Wheel bearing?
 

Could be the right rear wheel bearing.

Rev

140 in a 69 Mustang???

I don't think that you can put enough horsepower behind that brick to make it go that fast. LOL

Re: I can't see this being good.....
 

...Ummm ..so the Porsche was doing about 155+ ?

Again, it's next to impossible to reach a speed of 140 mph in your stock Mach 1. First of all, our cars are NOT very aerodynamic. You have a decent amount of torque and power from your Windsor, but nothing that great. That car is a high 14 (VERY optimistic)-low 15 second 1/4 mile car around 93-95 mph. Do you know how long it would take to accelerate that 45 more mph? A long, LONG time. Actually, you'd never get there.

I don't know if you're getting confused with your km/h to mph conversions or what, you probably even have a mph speedo. It only goes to 120 mph, and if you're estimating 140, you're way off.

Not being a dick, just giving a reality check. We don't need any BS.

took a look at your car spec under user rides, sounds like a nice faily stock car. Plugged in 3.55's in the analyzer on the site and came up with 6000RPM is 130mph with 26" tall tire. Just a guess with those 205/14s. maybe even smaller. So I'd have to agree with the crowd. Sorry.

140 in a 69 Mustang???

I don't think that you can put enough horsepower behind that brick to make it go that fast. LOL


Calm on now. I have seen it done very easily in a 69. There are lots of 428s out there go can exceed 140 mph. My car ran 90 mph in second gear never got to 3rd. This is with 4.30 gears. I am pretty damn sure if I took those out and put in some 2.73 or even higher i would execed well over 140.

Besides if you ever go to a NHRA national event and watch the Super stock classes You will see a more than one 69 with a 428 running well into the nines at over 140. Then there will be a whole bunch of them well into the tens in the stock classes at well over 120. JUst to let you know.

90mph in second gear with 4.30's:eek: What in holy H-E-double hockey sticks are you shifting at!!!:eek: :eek:

believe me or not I don't care. I'm not here to lie and make up stories. My speedo goes to 120 mph and my needle was over my odometer. If you want me to bring my friend who was in the car with me, or find the guy with Porsche. I'm not here to bs you, I didn't think my car could go that fast either but it has. I'll do it again and tape it if you really want.

As for the noise, it sounds almost like the leaf springs on the right side is creaking. It makes the noise when I slow down. It's not a high pitch sound at all. Ok not to be an ******* either but if you want to come see me I will take you for a ride. I'm not going to bs my way to make my car sound fast when I know 10 other people on teh site that have the same car. My needle was a good ways past the 120mph, it may of not been 140 exactly but my needle was past the 120 and by about the incremint of 10-20mph, I just looked down quick seen where it was then started to let off. I don't know how fast the Porsche was going. And I wasn't doing these speeds over a short time. It took me like 3 miles to get up to these speeds. I'm not here to lie and try to convince you but I will tape it and do it again and maybe make it abit more belivable. I will tape me doing it again this weekend and post the video and then I won't be classified as a bullshitter. Just I've been a member here for along while and don't want to be classified as someone who is full of ****.

Back to my problem, I will be looking at it abit more tonight cause it seemed to get worse last night. All the bearing recently were changed so I don't think that is the issue but I'm not even sure at this point.

Oh yeah, RIGHT! Sure, liar! Like you're REALLY member #4!

You're so full of it!

I swear, if lying was a college class, you'd...

huh?

oh.

Hehe, uhm, he, sorry.

;)

Take care,
~Chris

His speedo gear probably never was changed so maybe his speedo is reading higher than it should. My rear end was making a strange noise one time and it ended up being noe of the bearings. Good luck with it.

Them be fightin' words..... :D :D lol Yeh I'm really a ricer, after I nit my NAWWWSSSS at 90mph I lifted the wheels right off the ground and then my turbo started to spool so I gave it more gas and hit 140. By that time I was ready to stop at the next stop sign. :rolleyes:

My spedo could be incorrect but either way I was hauling *** at whatever speed I was going but I will tape my spedo this weekend when I find some real empty road.

2nd do you know how hard and how much it is to replace a bearing in the rearend? It sounds like it's coming from just the passenger (right) side of the car, is that normal for it to do that too? And it sounds like it's either at the exhaust or to the right (outside) of the car, not the middle. Either way I'll investigate more tonight. Anything I should look for? or look at?

Thanks,
§am.

And it sounds like it's either at the exhaust or to the right (outside) of the car, not the middle. Either way I'll investigate more tonight. Anything I should look for? or look at?

Exhaust bearings tend to go bad at 110 MPH so check that first and then the speedo flange bearing .Remember not to spin the cordless drill too fast.

Not to that he's right, but I did somwhere between 130 and 135 in my '66. I know my speedo was right because I checked it out a few times before hand, with a radar gun, thanks to the caops on base(good things, not bad). Although, with 4:30's in the rear, I think your speedo was off, at least a little.

In a stock '69 Boss 302, it will do 140 max in the top end. At least that's what the cop said the car was doing when he pulled over my grandpa on I-80. Those cars will go that fast, its just a matter of getting there.

Test the accuracy of your odometer. Find a stretch that you know is a mile and see what the reading is. If its 1.0, sweet. If its 1.1, then back 10% off whatever speed you see. I've never understood people saying, "It reads 5mph fast." Really, at what speed?

Sorry that's kind of a tangent, but I'd check out the accuracy of the reading just so you know how fast you're really going when the cops are around.

I don't recommend reproducing this event. As said before, the suspension on these cars wasn't the best. I know when I took my '65 up near triple digits on the speedo, it was changing lanes all by itself. I'm glad I switched my 2.8 rear gear to a 3.55 to prevent an event of momentary stupidity.

-Jon

Bearing changes are easy if you have a press, or access to one. If you have a tach just look at the rpm, measure the tire diamater and caclulate. Much more accurate than the speedo at over 120. I also have no dought that were defenelty into "pull licence speed" IF your going to it again, I serously sugest you fix the bearing, brakes, or spings that are making that noise. Be carful, the cops don't like people trying to break the sound barrier, no matter what your car is called!

Well it was a simple and free fix. The exhaust tip was hitting agaist the top of the back bumpber. So I just pushed it down abit and the problem seems to be fine now. That is a sure good relief. Like I said again I am not bsing you. That is what my speedo said. And I believe I have 3.55's, I'm not even 100% sure that is just from what little I know and people have agreed. Anyway, I will only tape if I know the road is safe and secure without cops. Yeh they don't take nicely to breaking the sound barrier. :D I deffinitly want to get wider tires. I'm thinking 205/15's on the front and 245/15's on the rear. Anyone know how wide I can go on the back without having to cut anything or have the tires stick out? I have traction bars too.

Thanks,
§am.

See I was right, It was the muffler bearing , so pay up lol
glad it was easy to fix.:cool:

Ben(6T9 Pony) had P295/50/R15s on his coupe.

I'm not saying your BS'ing.......I'm just saying you didn't go 140. Sure the speedo may have be pegged but that doesn't mean you were going 140 or even 120. Ford speedos exp. the older ones are bad inaccurate at higher speeds.

correctness of speedo
 

Just to let you guys know, Sam as well too cause i dont think he even knows. one day Sam and i were just playing around with his car and i had my G-tech hooked up, he had just gotten his car so we didnt want to push it too hard, so he was driving around and i set the G-tech to do a 0-60 and when the G-tech stopped counting like it does when you hit 60, Sam's speedo was at 60, so it is fairly accurate. i dont know if Sam was going 140 then cause as we all know, speedo's start to loose accuracy over about 80 or 90, but i do believe his speedo was where 140 should be, and it is accurate to the gears he has.
just some info.
Also I have a 2000 V6 mustang, pretty much stock, it only has about 195hp and I have been about 135MPH, that was on my digital speedo that you can turn the odometer into, the needle was maxed. and i know my odometer is accurate, and the newed odometers from are only like 1-2MPH off at top speeds. and if my car that is pretty much the same weight with almost half the HP can go that fast. i believe sam's car can go that fast, even if he does have higher gears. those are just my thoughts tho...

-Kyle

...waiting for someone to tell me what im thinking wrong :D

Import car drivers love this stuff !!
 

Bench Racing , what a fantastic pastime

Glad that was an easy fix dude. I always got stuff coming loose on my car.


Well the time i was talking about the car was at about 6200 and floating the valves when it went 90 in second. I usally try to shift at about 5800. It is actually pretty low after i have talk to alot of guys that race 428s though. Most of them will shift well into the 7000 rpm range, but those are 650-700 horsepower cars.

Re: correctness of speedo
 

Don't V-6's have a limiter at like 105-110?:confused: I doubt you had it up to 135, that's about where the GT pegs.

Ok lets say you DID get to 135, Sam still doesn't have the hp to push his car that fast, not with the 69 Mustang's aerodynamics. I think you and Sam are both over estimating the hp his car puts down. It's only good for about 230ish net flywheel hp. That's about 195ish rwhp.

Re:
 

Bake,
I didn't know that a DIGITAL speedo/odometer had a needle to max out:eek: But thats my fault since I drive a 65 and not a newer one ,[ Note to self Get up to date on ford parts]
Let me guess .. you took the limiter out of your V6 car right?

Sam,
Heres my Question .. Why would ANYONE in the world take 'ANY' car (or classic Mustang) with a un-inproved suspension, balljoint worn, cracked boot wearing, 30 odd yr old tie rod end sportin' rotted bushings, worn spring bouncing, DRUM to drum no breaking a@@, factory installed "slop-n-steering" linkage, Self lane changing , pothole seaking, fender mounted shock tower ripping, 3,500 lb car that the local shop works on, to those (attempted ) speeds on an unimproved 'non racing' surface and brag about it???
Hell if it was all new I wouldn't wanna take it there if I was paid to! And I have done some stupid things in the past.
Please , if you have the time could you give me a little insight?
I don't mean to insult you or your car at all, so don't be put off by this post. Just show me the light at the end of the tunnel.

Is safety an issue or does racing hondas, ect. worth more to you then life itself? Please man get the suspension worked out with the best stuff you can find ( not just afford) before you even attempt such a feat. And no , having new shocks and rear traction /slapper bars is not all it takes.

We don't wanna hear about you in the papers and where to send the flowers if you know what I mean .
But hey this is America so ..........to each his own.

Well?:confused:

Induction,

Couldn't of said it better myself.

Once again, how much horsepower do you have to put behind a "Brick" to make it go 140 mph????

Plus, old muscle cars don't do it.

Been there done that !!!!

Re: Import car drivers love this stuff !!
 

Oh yeah, well my bench has a turbo and nitrous (pics available).

:)

Take care,
~Chris

Re: Re: Import car drivers love this stuff !!
 

Oh yeah!! well mine has 20 inch 100 spoke DUBS and a piss load of "NO FAT CHICKS" stickers so I know i'll win dammit!
But I don't have any pic's .. and ... um.. well..it's my friends-little sisters- boyfriends- fathers- brothers -nephews -aunts - great grandfathers car that I once saw er.. ..drove at LeMans of Georgia back alley tavern next to a coffee shop near a truck stop in Nebraska on my way from Boston after a crossword puzzel tournament I swear and I can prove it too!.:(

Re: Re: Re: Import car drivers love this stuff !!
 

Damn, you are good. I bow in your presence! (my bench will still kick your bench's butt, though!)

:)

Take care,
~Chris

You dissin' Nebraska? You better BACK OFF! Haha....:p

Sam has very, very minor mods. An intake, of which kind I do not know, and what I assume to be is the original carb rebuilt, maybe a stock replacement. Either way, nothing that's going to increase power drastically at all. He's pushing probably about 300 Bhp (290 Bhp stock, figure in 33 years....:rolleyes: )....That's probably about 240 Net hp at the flywheel. He can't be making much more than 200 rwhp, if even that.

I believe that his speedo said 140, but I don't believe he was actually going 140. I guess we'll probably never know, but Sam, don't go out and do it again just to video it.

I had my Coupe up to about 115 and that was a crazy ride, I only did it once in the Coupe, and I'll never do it in the Fastback. Don't let a punk ricer instigate you to taking your car up anywhere near 140 in your car, just let him go, man. It's not worth risking your own and other peoples' lives. Be smart, bro.

Not a chance !! My dubs are made to go over 140 and not self destruct lol

You dissin' Nebraska? You better BACK OFF! Haha....

Nope not a chance remember ,I was only passing through on my way to Boston to pick you up because we needed a judge lolololololo:D
No , I wanted to get your attenion so you could give your imput on this subject( thats no joke ) I think he didn't wanna hear what I had to say so I was hoping someone else could help out so thank you . The kids gonna kill himself at this rate and thats just sad. Well that is if any of it is at all true.

I had a '77 Trans Am that I had installed a 160 MPH speedo in, and one night, while driving from Ventura to Santa Barbara, it reached 140. That was flat out scary. The long and winding freeway curves were flying by like I was racing on Mulholland Drive. That car was designed to go fast, but that was faster than it wanted to go. The really scary thing is that a week or two later, on the same journey, I had a rear tire blow-out while doing about 70 or 80. I almost died. If that had happened when I was doing 140, I certainly would have died.

Too risky for me to justify for any reason.

Take care,
~Chris

Oh yeah???

Fine.

BTW, the speedo on my bench goes to 175!!!

LOL.

If the speedo goes that high, then the bench has to go that fast....Right ?????

Better get traction bars on that bench !!!

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You friggen Wanker. He's a Canadian, so it's not America, eh?

*ducks*

Talk to my girl lately?

*ducks again*


:D

Re: Re: Re:
 

Yeah. She came to the race Saturday night. Asked about you.

:)

Take care,
~Chris

Well , I guess 'no video is good video hua?'

Re: Re: Re:
 

***Jab***

Oh , thanks for the correction there 'Jack the lad' ( shows how much I look over there hua? lol

*** Clothes line & Mud hole stomp ***

Well sort of.... she was out with PKRWUD

Re: Re: Re: Re:
 

That's low man. Still don't have the car either.:mad:

You know I thought I was going that fast in my 69 once. Then my friend explained the diffrence between the numbers that are small and the numbers that are big on my speedo.......



Just bust'n your balls.


One

LOL!!:D

Ahhhh ...so thats where he went wrong lol

Well I wasn't on this site for awhile. I got on it a for like 10 minutes the other day but never checked on this thread. I wasn't here to start a debate on how fast I was going. I never knew that the old spedo's are so inaccurate. It wasn't even the point of the freakin' thread. So I don't care if you ridicule me or not. I just said what my speedo said. Anyway...... I'm out... any questions or comments.... pm me or post them here.

Peace,
Sam.

Weren't you going to get your car dynoed a while back?