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Old 10-17-2001, 10:49 PM   #1
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Question IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

I WAS WONDERING IF MUSTANG II DROP SPINDLES WILL FIT ON A 65-66 STANG, SEEING THAT THE BALL JOINTS ARE THE SAME FROM ABOUT 63 TO 78. I WAS READING IN A BOOK WHERE SOMEONE WAS SWAPPING AN IFS FROM A 77 STANG INTO A 70 MUSTANG BUT WANTED TO MAINTAIN THE STOCK DRUMS AND IT SAID THAT THE BALL JOINTS WERE THE SAME.
SINCE THE SPINDLES FROM A 70 FIT INTO A 65 STANG, AND THE 77 FIT INTO A 70, WOULDN'T IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT 77 SPINDLES INTO A 65 MUSTANG, THEREFORE BEING ABLE TO PUT DROP SPINDLES FOR AN IFS INTO A 65-66? AM I WRONG OR IS THIS POSSIBLE?
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Old 10-17-2001, 11:37 PM   #2
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'65-66 Mustangs certainly accept '75-78 Granada/Monarch/Varsailles spindles as that's what I'm using right now. You don't need drop spindles. Just use the correct springs/insulators and drop the upper suspension arm mounts an inch (ala Shellby) if you need to.

You'll have a good center of gravity and pretty good handling. If you need a more race type suspension, get the negative wedge kit, but that's really more for racing.

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I realize that, but what my question is instead of taking apart the whole suspension just to lower the upper control arms couldn't you just use 2" drop spindles for an ifs.
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Old 10-18-2001, 12:22 AM   #4
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Maybe I'm not understanding this right. Do you mean the use of Mustang II spindles without any other modifications? If that's the question, then the answer is no.

Putting in a rack and pinion Mustang II suspension into an early Mustang is a big job, requiring replacment of the whole front suspension (major effort).

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Old 01-24-2007, 08:33 PM   #5
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

What about the other way around? The older spindles in the Mustang II? My buddy has a 76 and needs a spindle, I have a pair from a 67 I will give to him if it will work. I have heard of the swap that 65modified is talking about, that's where I got the idea about my buddie's.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:46 AM   #6
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

I dont think that will work, the tie rod mount is towards the front in the mustang II.
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I just noticed this thread is from 2001, whats up!!?
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I dont think that will work, the tie rod mount is towards the front in the mustang II.
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I just noticed this thread is from 2001, whats up!!?
Maybe he has been trying to get them to fit for 6 years
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:05 PM   #8
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Maybe he has been trying to get them to fit for 6 years
I just joined and didn't notice the date.
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:08 PM   #9
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

[QUOTE=bmxmon;329382]I dont think that will work, the tie rod mount is towards the front in the mustang II.
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What if you swapped sides with them? (left to right and right to left) If it won't work, no biggie. I have heard of the swap for the early stangs. Just wondered if it was B--- Sh-- or not. Thanks.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:03 PM   #10
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

Sorry, my post was meant as a lame attempt at a laugh. However if you are attempting to switch spindles from side to side, that won't work because of the tie rod arm pointing in the wrong direction. Good luck, Dave


P.S.....about 25 years ago I swapped a linclon versailles disc brake rearend into my 66 stang........me and my buddy spent 4 months and about 3 gallons of brake fluid and 6 different master cylinder combos to get the correct pedal height and feel.......thus my lame attempt for a laugh.

This post being so old reminded me of that and I laughed at the thought that this car had been on jackstands for 6 years and they were still trying to figure out how to make those spindles fit! (obviously it could'nt have been but I am easily ammused)
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:09 PM   #11
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This post being so old reminded me of that and I laughed at the thought that this car had been on jackstands for 6 years and they were still trying to figure out how to make those spindles fit! (obviously it could'nt have been but I am easily ammused)[/QUOTE]

Hey, you never know. hahaha
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

[QUOTE=dav65mus;329422]Sorry, my post was meant as a lame attempt at a laugh. However if you are attempting to switch spindles from side to side, that won't work because of the tie rod arm pointing in the wrong direction. Good luck, Dave


If the tie rod mount is to the front on the Mustang II and to the rear on the early Mustang, then swapping sides WILL put them pointing in the right direction. If you take a tie rod mount that is to the rear on the left side and put it on the right side it will put the tie rod mount in the front.
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

Thats in interesting thought, might as well give it a try. Hey Dav65mus, how'd the versailles swap go, do you think its a better idea to swap in the different rear end or just get a kit from somebody like ssbc?
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:33 PM   #14
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get a kit from ssbc.

I did that swap back in about 83or 84, and about a year after I swapped the versailles rearend in, the driver side caliper locked and I smelled something burning......... stopped the car and the rotor was smoking and glowing cherry red! Replacement parts were hard to get then only about 8 years after they were new.

You do get a proper width 9" rearend with the swap, but its not worth it today with ssbc,baer, and willwood options out there.
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

Also about the spindle swap,as someone posted earlier, the granada or monarch spindles from the mid 70's will bolt onto a 65-66 stang without bad problems.

Mustang 2 spindles will not fit properly as a direct bolt on...... and even if you got them on...... without a complete weld in mustang 2 frontend kit your steering geometry and bumpsteer would make the car dangerous to drive.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:06 AM   #16
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Default Re: IFS drop spindles on 65-66?

I wasn't talking about putting the Mustang II spindle in the early Mustang. I was talking about putting the early spindle in the Mustang II. Like I stated in an earlier post, a buddie of mine has a 76 that needs a spindle and I have a set of 67 spindles I told him he could have if it would work.
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