New Windsor engine? - Page 2

PKRWUD · 08-03-2002, 02:31 AM

Well, as long as Earle is paying for it, let him do it his way. Once it get's running, you can make a plan for it's future, and what mods you want to do to it, and start doing them when finances permit. If and when you do get it running, find an excuse to come up to Ventura, and I'll go over it and see what's up. I'll run some tests on it, and tell you where you really stand. Keep it in mind.

Take care,
~Chris

PKRWUD · 08-03-2002, 02:34 AM

Wait a minute. If the heads are fine, why is he going to pay $800 for a used long block from a junk yard? You don't need a long block, and you could get a rebuilt short block for the same money.

Take care,
~Chris

rustang girl · 08-03-2002, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by PKRWUD Well, as long as Earle is paying for it, let him do it his way. Once it get's running, you can make a plan for it's future, and what mods you want to do to it, and start doing them when finances permit. If and when you do get it running, find an excuse to come up to Ventura, and I'll go over it and see what's up. I'll run some tests on it, and tell you where you really stand. Keep it in mind.

Take care,
~Chris

Sounds like a plan, Stan. hehe (Had to say it.)

We would have had a lot more done on the car by now if it would stop breaking. We have replaced quite a few things though, which should always be the main concern, making sure it's running. hehe

rustang girl · 08-03-2002, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by PKRWUD
Wait a minute. If the heads are fine, why is he going to pay $800 for a used long block from a junk yard? You don't need a long block, and you could get a rebuilt short block for the same money.

Take care,
~Chris

Ummmm, it's $650, the rest goes to the friend for doing the "favor" plus I think we owe him some money for something for the 928.

They, BSR, say there's a difference between junkyard and (ummm, great, great comparison Heidi, can't even think of the 2nd one." Anyone, the one we're getting it from is from an impund yard. From what I understand it's an upscale junkyard. Cars are impounds or things of that nature. Anyways, that's what BSR says. (BSR = bakersfieldstreetracing.com)

Getting the long block cuz it comes w/ extras, and we're ganna sale the left overs. We only need the small block.

mean81GT · 08-03-2002, 09:57 PM

if you want, i have a rebuilt 302 sitting in my garage. you can have it for 400, but you have to pay shipping.

doubt you're interested, but let me know anyway.

rustang girl · 08-03-2002, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by mean81GT
if you want, i have a rebuilt 302 sitting in my garage. you can have it for 400, but you have to pay shipping. doubt you're interested, but let me know anyway.

Cool deal!

If I'd known that sooner I would have considered that.

The way we go through engines I may still take you on that offer. hehehe

lil67pony · 08-09-2002, 11:52 PM

hey what changes would i need to make from a 1967 mustang with a straight 6 to put a 302 in it from a 1988 mustang???
anything would be helpfull

lil67pony · 08-10-2002, 12:05 AM

this is my current

PKRWUD · 08-10-2002, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by lil67pony
hey what changes would i need to make from a 1967 mustang with a straight 6 to put a 302 in it from a 1988 mustang???
anything would be helpfull

A lot. Check your other thread.

Take care,
~Chris

ultrastang · 08-10-2002, 05:20 PM

Many people call the 221, 260, 289, 302s "Windsors," but actually only the 351Ws are the "true" Windors, since the 351W's name comes from where it was made --Windsor, Canada.

All the other 221-302 small-blocks were cast at the Cleveland, Ohio plant --same place the 351C came from.

www.ultrastang.com

PKRWUD · 08-10-2002, 06:42 PM

Actually, that's true. Ford's history with small blocks is kinda complicated. The aforementioned engines were made at the Cleveland plant, yet they are not "Cleveland" engines; they are not a part of the Cleveland family. It's often said that the Boss 302 is a Windsor block with Cleveland heads, which is also false. The block was the same one they had been using, and the heads were a brand new design, which was developed in large part by modifying the existing heads. The results were so great, that Ford decided there needed to be a new block to go with these new heads, so they designed the 351C. In other words, the heads came first, and the block followed.

Take care,
~Chris

08-10-2002, 11:04 PM

Is the 429 a Windsor engine? and also I heard that the heads on the 429 are kinda like a hemi design, i always thought it was a wedge engine

are the 351C heads of the same design?

steven

PKRWUD · 08-10-2002, 11:36 PM

The 429 is part of the "385" family of engines (429, 460, and BOSS 429). They are virtually the same as the Clevelands, except that they're larger in size. Neither the 429 or the 351C heads are hemi heads, and both were considered to be "open quench" design, which breathe excellently. The BOSS 429 heads were hemi heads.

Take care,
~Chris

08-11-2002, 09:10 PM

is the "385" family also know as the Y-Blocks? and chris do you know if nascar allows the dodge cars to run Hemi Or Wedge style Heads?

steven

Rev · 08-11-2002, 09:24 PM

The Y blocks pre-dated the the FE blocks. They were around in the '50's as 254,272,292 and 312's. These are the Ford V-8's that superceded the flatheads. Performance-wise, they weren't much.

Rev

PKRWUD · 08-11-2002, 11:13 PM

Dodge had a 360 hemi designed and built for use in NASCAR, but the GM boys cried unfair, so NASCAR prohibited it.

Take care,
~Chris

08-03-2002, 02:31 AM	#21
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Well, as long as Earle is paying for it, let him do it his way. Once it get's running, you can make a plan for it's future, and what mods you want to do to it, and start doing them when finances permit. If and when you do get it running, find an excuse to come up to Ventura, and I'll go over it and see what's up. I'll run some tests on it, and tell you where you really stand. Keep it in mind. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

08-03-2002, 02:34 AM	#22
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Wait a minute. If the heads are fine, why is he going to pay $800 for a used long block from a junk yard? You don't need a long block, and you could get a rebuilt short block for the same money. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

08-03-2002, 09:57 PM	#25
mean81GT Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NY Posts: 299	if you want, i have a rebuilt 302 sitting in my garage. you can have it for 400, but you have to pay shipping. doubt you're interested, but let me know anyway. __________________ I'm a glutton for punishment.

08-10-2002, 06:42 PM	#31
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Actually, that's true. Ford's history with small blocks is kinda complicated. The aforementioned engines were made at the Cleveland plant, yet they are not "Cleveland" engines; they are not a part of the Cleveland family. It's often said that the Boss 302 is a Windsor block with Cleveland heads, which is also false. The block was the same one they had been using, and the heads were a brand new design, which was developed in large part by modifying the existing heads. The results were so great, that Ford decided there needed to be a new block to go with these new heads, so they designed the 351C. In other words, the heads came first, and the block followed. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

08-10-2002, 11:36 PM	#33
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	The 429 is part of the "385" family of engines (429, 460, and BOSS 429). They are virtually the same as the Clevelands, except that they're larger in size. Neither the 429 or the 351C heads are hemi heads, and both were considered to be "open quench" design, which breathe excellently. The BOSS 429 heads were hemi heads. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

08-09-2002, 11:52 PM	#27
lil67pony Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: IL Posts: 12	hey what changes would i need to make from a 1967 mustang with a straight 6 to put a 302 in it from a 1988 mustang??? anything would be helpfull

08-10-2002, 05:20 PM	#30
ultrastang Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fordyce, AR, USA Posts: 13	Many people call the 221, 260, 289, 302s "Windsors," but actually only the 351Ws are the "true" Windors, since the 351W's name comes from where it was made --Windsor, Canada. All the other 221-302 small-blocks were cast at the Cleveland, Ohio plant --same place the 351C came from. www.ultrastang.com

08-10-2002, 11:04 PM	#32
Young_Pony Guest Posts: n/a	Is the 429 a Windsor engine? and also I heard that the heads on the 429 are kinda like a hemi design, i always thought it was a wedge engine are the 351C heads of the same design? steven

08-11-2002, 09:10 PM	#34
Young_Pony Guest Posts: n/a	is the "385" family also know as the Y-Blocks? and chris do you know if nascar allows the dodge cars to run Hemi Or Wedge style Heads? steven

08-11-2002, 09:24 PM	#35
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Y blocks The Y blocks pre-dated the the FE blocks. They were around in the '50's as 254,272,292 and 312's. These are the Ford V-8's that superceded the flatheads. Performance-wise, they weren't much. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

08-11-2002, 11:13 PM	#36
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Dodge had a 360 hemi designed and built for use in NASCAR, but the GM boys cried unfair, so NASCAR prohibited it. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!