Oil Pan

Elvis · 03-04-2007, 07:48 PM

Well, some months ago I purchased a Canton cadmium plated rear sump oil pan for my '67 with a 302. While I was having my new Edelbrock cam and heads installed I asked my nephew - a mechanic - to put the oil pan on as well. The Canton pan did not have a hole for the dip stick and the directions said that the original hole in the timing chain cover could not be used. My nephew drilled a hole for the dip stick in the side of the pan but I am unable to get an indication on the dip stick. I emailed the Canton tech services and asked if I could use the original hole for the dip stick. They said that there was not enough oil in the front of a rear sump pan for that. My original pan was a rear sump and it worked just fine. Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want to take off the oil pan but I also don't want to drive the car without knowing if there is any oil in the engine. Help! E.

Rev · 03-06-2007, 05:22 PM

I'm confused. Didn't the '67 come with a front sump pan?

Rev

Elvis · 03-06-2007, 07:35 PM

You're right. Sorry, I was having a dyslexic moment. It is a front sump so it seems to me that I should be able to use the original hole for the dip stick. I'm not sure why the instructions said to not use it. Anyway, I'll give it a try and let you know. E.

Gearhead999 · 03-09-2007, 10:49 PM

You should be able to use the hole in the timing cover.

goodyear1984 · 03-12-2007, 01:15 AM

yea i have a 73 351 block same thing ft sump..thats a 7qt pan?did u add the correct amount of oil..kinda confusing what u were saying..let me know how you make out ...goodluck

WillyKJr · 03-16-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

Well, some months ago I purchased a Canton cadmium plated rear sump oil pan for my '67 with a 302. While I was having my new Edelbrock cam and heads installed I asked my nephew - a mechanic - to put the oil pan on as well. The Canton pan did not have a hole for the dip stick and the directions said that the original hole in the timing chain cover could not be used. My nephew drilled a hole for the dip stick in the side of the pan but I am unable to get an indication on the dip stick. I emailed the Canton tech services and asked if I could use the original hole for the dip stick. They said that there was not enough oil in the front of a rear sump pan for that. My original pan was a rear sump and it worked just fine. Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want to take off the oil pan but I also don't want to drive the car without knowing if there is any oil in the engine. Help! E.

E. Me be confused. You stated that you have a new rear sump pan from Canton but want to use the port in the timing chain cover for the dipstick. That port is for a front sump (stock-style) pan. Now that you have a rear sump pan a dipstick in the stock position will not register in the shallow part (the front) of your new pan.

If the motor is healthy and you have an accurate pressure guage don't worry about a dipstick. Make sure you put the correct amount of oil in to begin with, a fresh motor won't burn it up, change it a couple times a year if necessary and run it.

goodyear1984 · 03-16-2007, 10:20 PM

are u serious? who the heck would run without a dip stick...thats just silly and only a hack would do that

Gearhead999 · 03-18-2007, 08:57 PM

I'd have a dipstick. Some way, some how.

Elvis · 03-19-2007, 06:47 PM

Alright, I really screwed up on this post! My car, of course, is a front sump. Somehow, the instructions I read left me with the understanding that the original hole in the timing chain cover could not be used. I now realize that the error was mine and that I can use the original hole. All is right with the world. Pleeeez, ignore this post. I will try to have my act together in the future. Mea culpa!! E.

Rev · 03-20-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

Alright, I really screwed up on this post! My car, of course, is a front sump. Somehow, the instructions I read left me with the understanding that the original hole in the timing chain cover could not be used. I now realize that the error was mine and that I can use the original hole. All is right with the world. Pleeeez, ignore this post. I will try to have my act together in the future. Mea culpa!! E.

I thought we had all of this straightened out in the first 2 or 3 posts? No need for apologies Elvis.

Rev

03-04-2007, 07:48 PM	#1
Elvis Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sherman, Texas Posts: 188	Oil Pan Well, some months ago I purchased a Canton cadmium plated rear sump oil pan for my '67 with a 302. While I was having my new Edelbrock cam and heads installed I asked my nephew - a mechanic - to put the oil pan on as well. The Canton pan did not have a hole for the dip stick and the directions said that the original hole in the timing chain cover could not be used. My nephew drilled a hole for the dip stick in the side of the pan but I am unable to get an indication on the dip stick. I emailed the Canton tech services and asked if I could use the original hole for the dip stick. They said that there was not enough oil in the front of a rear sump pan for that. My original pan was a rear sump and it worked just fine. Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want to take off the oil pan but I also don't want to drive the car without knowing if there is any oil in the engine. Help! E.

03-06-2007, 05:22 PM	#2
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Re: Oil Pan I'm confused. Didn't the '67 come with a front sump pan? Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

03-06-2007, 07:35 PM	#3
Elvis Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sherman, Texas Posts: 188	Re: Oil Pan You're right. Sorry, I was having a dyslexic moment. It is a front sump so it seems to me that I should be able to use the original hole for the dip stick. I'm not sure why the instructions said to not use it. Anyway, I'll give it a try and let you know. E.

03-09-2007, 10:49 PM	#4
Gearhead999 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 992	Re: Oil Pan You should be able to use the hole in the timing cover. __________________ "Support our Troops" Dave 1968 Cougar 2004 Thunderbird 2007 F150 Harley-Davidson, SuperCrew 1986 LTD 1997 Ranger 1992 Honda Civic

03-12-2007, 01:15 AM	#5
goodyear1984 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: new york Posts: 482	Re: Oil Pan yea i have a 73 351 block same thing ft sump..thats a 7qt pan?did u add the correct amount of oil..kinda confusing what u were saying..let me know how you make out ...goodluck __________________ 347 stroker all forged,arp everything,stud mains w/girdle,7qt pan,full roller, custom cam, aluminum heads swirl valves 5 angle valve job.quick fuel 750,areomotive pump,cobras w/nitto drags,and m/t et drags for the track, ford racing 373 gears,centerforce clutch,tko500,underdrive pulleys,bassani x-pipe,flowmasters ^best et so far 11.6 1.61 60ft coming soon 9sec et's 1992 mustang gt 2001 gmc 1500 4x4 78 century boat 92 skidoo

03-16-2007, 10:20 PM	#7
goodyear1984 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: new york Posts: 482	Re: Oil Pan are u serious? who the heck would run without a dip stick...thats just silly and only a hack would do that __________________ 347 stroker all forged,arp everything,stud mains w/girdle,7qt pan,full roller, custom cam, aluminum heads swirl valves 5 angle valve job.quick fuel 750,areomotive pump,cobras w/nitto drags,and m/t et drags for the track, ford racing 373 gears,centerforce clutch,tko500,underdrive pulleys,bassani x-pipe,flowmasters ^best et so far 11.6 1.61 60ft coming soon 9sec et's 1992 mustang gt 2001 gmc 1500 4x4 78 century boat 92 skidoo

03-18-2007, 08:57 PM	#8
Gearhead999 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 992	Re: Oil Pan I'd have a dipstick. Some way, some how. __________________ "Support our Troops" Dave 1968 Cougar 2004 Thunderbird 2007 F150 Harley-Davidson, SuperCrew 1986 LTD 1997 Ranger 1992 Honda Civic

03-19-2007, 06:47 PM	#9
Elvis Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sherman, Texas Posts: 188	Re: Oil Pan Alright, I really screwed up on this post! My car, of course, is a front sump. Somehow, the instructions I read left me with the understanding that the original hole in the timing chain cover could not be used. I now realize that the error was mine and that I can use the original hole. All is right with the world. Pleeeez, ignore this post. I will try to have my act together in the future. Mea culpa!! E.