what to do... 289,302, or 351 - Page 2

66 Racer · 09-07-2001, 04:19 PM

Hey guys,

I was a little qurious to how a stroker kit works, is it simular to a long block conversion? Where you have a different crank, and longer conecting rods with shorter pistons? By the way how much do one of these kits cost, i imagine over $1500.

By the way, i have always wanted to know what it feels like to feel a shot of N2O. When you give it a 100 shot of N2O is it powerful enough to kick your head back? It must be nice having a N2O setup on a car. I think I'll stay away from it though.

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Under Construction 66 Coupe
-289 V8 - 600cfm Holley -Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust, Centerforce Dual Friction

Ron1 · 09-07-2001, 09:42 PM

Same bore, longer stroke, shorter piston. As far as pricing is concerned the kits start from $899.00 and with all the good stuff (forged pistons, forged crank, H or I beam rods) they go all the way up to $22/2300.00. Yea, you can definitely feel an extra 100 horse. If you have 300 HP today, and you ad a 100, that's a 33% increase in power. On a 600 HP motor you don't feel it as much. Only 16% increase in power.

Ron

66 Racer · 09-08-2001, 11:05 PM

Thanks ron1,

one thing though, did you mean that you do not bore, you that you still bore the engine. So basically that translates to "cubic inches" because you get the same stroke as the bigger engine do in the smaller package of a 289 or whatever you are stoking? Also what is the difference of making a long block conversion over stroking? To me it almost sounds the same, Unless it is.

Thanks

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Under Construction 66 Coupe
-289 V8 - 600cfm Holley -Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust, Centerforce Dual Friction

Ron1 · 09-10-2001, 11:29 PM

A long block (when you buy one) is usually a complete motor, with the exception of intake and carb. A short block is the block and the rotating assembly, that includes crank, rods and pistons. As far as bore is concerned...a 302 bored .030 over becomes a 306, so a gain of 4 cubic inches.

Ron

66 Racer · 09-11-2001, 03:32 PM

ron1,

I believe i understang it now, i thought long block was a term for the stroke.

Thanks for your help

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Under Construction 66 Coupe
-289 V8 - 600cfm Holley -Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust, Centerforce Dual Friction

ahitt64 · 10-18-2009, 12:12 PM

hey i was wondering what size cam i should put in my 351 windsor 4 barrel if i want quick take off and top end speed and about how much it would be?

bmxmon · 11-04-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ahitt64

hey i was wondering what size cam i should put in my 351 windsor 4 barrel if i want quick take off and top end speed and about how much it would be?

That could vary a bunch depending on a ton of variables! Best to start a new thread in the "Windsor Power" forum.

10-18-2009, 12:12 PM	#26
ahitt64 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	Re: what to do... 289,302, or 351 hey i was wondering what size cam i should put in my 351 windsor 4 barrel if i want quick take off and top end speed and about how much it would be?

09-07-2001, 04:19 PM	#21
66 Racer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 77	Hey guys, I was a little qurious to how a stroker kit works, is it simular to a long block conversion? Where you have a different crank, and longer conecting rods with shorter pistons? By the way how much do one of these kits cost, i imagine over $1500. By the way, i have always wanted to know what it feels like to feel a shot of N2O. When you give it a 100 shot of N2O is it powerful enough to kick your head back? It must be nice having a N2O setup on a car. I think I'll stay away from it though. ------------------ Under Construction 66 Coupe -289 V8 - 600cfm Holley -Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust, Centerforce Dual Friction

09-07-2001, 09:42 PM	#22
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	Same bore, longer stroke, shorter piston. As far as pricing is concerned the kits start from $899.00 and with all the good stuff (forged pistons, forged crank, H or I beam rods) they go all the way up to $22/2300.00. Yea, you can definitely feel an extra 100 horse. If you have 300 HP today, and you ad a 100, that's a 33% increase in power. On a 600 HP motor you don't feel it as much. Only 16% increase in power. Ron

09-08-2001, 11:05 PM	#23
66 Racer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 77	Thanks ron1, one thing though, did you mean that you do not bore, you that you still bore the engine. So basically that translates to "cubic inches" because you get the same stroke as the bigger engine do in the smaller package of a 289 or whatever you are stoking? Also what is the difference of making a long block conversion over stroking? To me it almost sounds the same, Unless it is. Thanks ------------------ Under Construction 66 Coupe -289 V8 - 600cfm Holley -Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust, Centerforce Dual Friction

09-10-2001, 11:29 PM	#24
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	A long block (when you buy one) is usually a complete motor, with the exception of intake and carb. A short block is the block and the rotating assembly, that includes crank, rods and pistons. As far as bore is concerned...a 302 bored .030 over becomes a 306, so a gain of 4 cubic inches. Ron

09-11-2001, 03:32 PM	#25
66 Racer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 77	ron1, I believe i understang it now, i thought long block was a term for the stroke. Thanks for your help ------------------ Under Construction 66 Coupe -289 V8 - 600cfm Holley -Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust, Centerforce Dual Friction