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Moonstang · 11-20-2006, 03:27 PM

Why on earth wont the distributor go in? There's a small rod at the bottom of the hole that I'm guessing fits into the shaft of the distributor. Well said rod is leaning against the side of the opening and wont slip in. I thought if I raised the back of the car it would allow the rod to fall forward a bit but no luck. I'm stumped. Any tricks? Can I grease up the end of the distributor shaft? What exactly is that rod and where does it go/what does it do? Can I get to it from the bottom? Man I wish I had a real shop manual and a parts book. My chilton book really isn't helping much.

Help me Obi Won Kenobi, you're my only hope.

MoonStang

red · 11-20-2006, 08:26 PM

That's the oil pump drive shaft. I usually end up wedging it in the distributor, pulling up, and dropping the shaft into the oil pan. Then you have to take the oil pan off. I have never figured out a good way to get it back together. Hopefully someone will add some words of wisdom. I believe there is some kind of retainer clip that keeps the shaft connected to the distributor. But I don't think anyone ever installs the clip.

okiedragster · 11-20-2006, 08:58 PM

yea there is a clip that goes on the pump shaft that keeps it from droping in the pan, the clip is designed to slip on the shaft one way and wont come off the other end of the shaft...on the link i posted ,click on the pic to get a larger pic, this isnt stock but it will give you a idea of what goes on the shaft...
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Moonstang · 11-21-2006, 05:07 AM

Thanx for the input y'all. After a trip to Mustang Bros. today and a very long talk w/ his ace mechanic, (and the purchase of the factory shop manual) I think I got it figured out. Basicly whoever installed the last oil pump drive shaft DID install the clip BUT he installed the shaft upside down. One side is flat and the other side has about a 1/4" tapper allowing for easier alignment. Before i drop the oil pan, the ace said to try 2 things. 1st, using a 1/4" deep socket and a long extention, Fit the socket over the end of the drive shaft and try to turn the shaft a bit to change its position. 2nd. forget about aligning the distibutor w/ my marks. turn the crank by hand 1 full rotation. This will turn the oil pump drive shaft and change its position. But then I have to retime it. If that doesn't work. It's the old fashioned way and I drop the pan.
Good Times!
MoonStang

Dark Knight · 11-21-2006, 01:33 PM

Just line it up where you want, and bump the engine over with the starter. It'll drop right in, done that a bunch of times with no prob. That happens alot with the hex drive.

Gearhead999 · 11-23-2006, 08:58 AM

Common problem. You can try greasing the end of the dist. It may help.

Turn the oil pump shaft with a socket and long extension, just don't drop the socket in the engine. It will stick on the shaft and the extension will come off and socket into the pan. [Don't ask how I know this happens]

Easiest is to do as Dark Knight said. It will fall right in. You're going to time the engine anyway, after you get it running.

Happy Thanksgiving

Rev · 11-23-2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Knight

Just line it up where you want, and bump the engine over with the starter. It'll drop right in, done that a bunch of times with no prob. That happens alot with the hex drive.

That's what I have to do every time I reinstall the distributor.

Rev

11-20-2006, 03:27 PM	#1
Moonstang Moon Equepted Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sucker Free City (San Francisco) Posts: 17	What the F Why on earth wont the distributor go in? There's a small rod at the bottom of the hole that I'm guessing fits into the shaft of the distributor. Well said rod is leaning against the side of the opening and wont slip in. I thought if I raised the back of the car it would allow the rod to fall forward a bit but no luck. I'm stumped. Any tricks? Can I grease up the end of the distributor shaft? What exactly is that rod and where does it go/what does it do? Can I get to it from the bottom? Man I wish I had a real shop manual and a parts book. My chilton book really isn't helping much. Help me Obi Won Kenobi, you're my only hope. MoonStang

11-20-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
red Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Millburn, NJ Posts: 310	Re: What the F That's the oil pump drive shaft. I usually end up wedging it in the distributor, pulling up, and dropping the shaft into the oil pan. Then you have to take the oil pan off. I have never figured out a good way to get it back together. Hopefully someone will add some words of wisdom. I believe there is some kind of retainer clip that keeps the shaft connected to the distributor. But I don't think anyone ever installs the clip.

11-20-2006, 08:58 PM	#3
okiedragster Drag Racer and Mach1 Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: southern oklahoma Posts: 85	Re: What the F yea there is a clip that goes on the pump shaft that keeps it from droping in the pan, the clip is designed to slip on the shaft one way and wont come off the other end of the shaft...on the link i posted ,click on the pic to get a larger pic, this isnt stock but it will give you a idea of what goes on the shaft... http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku __________________ -FOR SALE- SUPER COMP DRAGSTER My 71 Mach 1

11-21-2006, 05:07 AM	#4
Moonstang Moon Equepted Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sucker Free City (San Francisco) Posts: 17	Re: What the F Thanx for the input y'all. After a trip to Mustang Bros. today and a very long talk w/ his ace mechanic, (and the purchase of the factory shop manual) I think I got it figured out. Basicly whoever installed the last oil pump drive shaft DID install the clip BUT he installed the shaft upside down. One side is flat and the other side has about a 1/4" tapper allowing for easier alignment. Before i drop the oil pan, the ace said to try 2 things. 1st, using a 1/4" deep socket and a long extention, Fit the socket over the end of the drive shaft and try to turn the shaft a bit to change its position. 2nd. forget about aligning the distibutor w/ my marks. turn the crank by hand 1 full rotation. This will turn the oil pump drive shaft and change its position. But then I have to retime it. If that doesn't work. It's the old fashioned way and I drop the pan. Good Times! MoonStang

11-21-2006, 01:33 PM	#5
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	Re: What the F Just line it up where you want, and bump the engine over with the starter. It'll drop right in, done that a bunch of times with no prob. That happens alot with the hex drive. __________________ 84 convt,roller 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives BBK shorties stock cam, 1.7's 13.58@102.84 and a '68 stang .. project 8 sec street car... 557 big block + N20 :-) http://members.cox.net/darkknight302/68nwrear.jpg

11-23-2006, 08:58 AM	#6
Gearhead999 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 992	Re: What the F Common problem. You can try greasing the end of the dist. It may help. Turn the oil pump shaft with a socket and long extension, just don't drop the socket in the engine. It will stick on the shaft and the extension will come off and socket into the pan. [Don't ask how I know this happens] Easiest is to do as Dark Knight said. It will fall right in. You're going to time the engine anyway, after you get it running. Happy Thanksgiving __________________ "Support our Troops" Dave 1968 Cougar 2004 Thunderbird 2007 F150 Harley-Davidson, SuperCrew 1986 LTD 1997 Ranger 1992 Honda Civic