What things to check next

David Fulford · 08-27-2003, 12:44 PM

I'm not expecting any miracles, but a few probable culprits would be appreciated. The front end on my stang has been torn apart for a while pending funds to finish my granada brake swap. I have been starting it about once a week ever since I tore it apart. Then all of a sudden it started running real crappy the last time I started it until it finally died and now won't re-start. I'm getting gas to the carb, spark to the distributor, and the plugs look OK. I also checked spark to cylinders 1 and 2 and I'm getting spark there. I have an MSD 6AL with MSD distributor on a 302 crate motor. I did all the basic gas and spark checks so I would like some direction on where to go from here. I was thinking either the MSD box is bad or the timing chain malfunctioned the last time I started it. Any help would be great.

Oh yeah, it did backfire the last time I started it so could it possibly be damage to the carb.

KiltedBanshees93GT · 08-28-2003, 08:57 AM

Silly question, but how long has it been apart? could the gas have gone south?

David Fulford · 08-28-2003, 12:03 PM

It's been sitting in my garage for about 2 years with the same tank of gas in it. Haven't had the money to insure it or really play with it in a while. So I bet that could be it. Although I know it could be about 100 different things. Being a 69 with no electronics or anything, I always thought if you have gas dripping in the carb and spark at the end of the spark plug wire, the damn thing should start. The motor in it only has about 3500 miles on it so I don't think it's internal to the motor. Do plugs go bad over time? I think I will replace cap, rotor, and plugs just for the hell of it and see what happens. Thanks for the reply. I think I will put some new gas in it and see if the new gas mixed with the old will help anything.

KiltedBanshees93GT · 08-29-2003, 07:06 AM

Couldnt you also put fresh fuel in the bowls too? And I dont think plugs can go bad, but I could be wrong.

J

Rev · 08-29-2003, 03:17 PM

The first thing I would do is disconnect the ignition box and revert it to original configuration. See if it starts and runs then? If it does, you will know it's the box.

My Mallory HiFire 6-AL has failed twice. Left me sitting on the side of the road each time. I sent it back the first time under warranty and they fixed it. This second time, I just took it off and left it off. I don't want something that undependable on my car.

I was thinking of getting a MSD 6-AL as I thought the MSD was probably better as they are the industry leader. Let me know if it was the box. I'll be disappointed if it's the MSD box.

Rev

David Fulford · 08-29-2003, 04:39 PM

I'll try that REV, thanks.

08-27-2003, 12:44 PM	#1
David Fulford Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 193	What things to check next I'm not expecting any miracles, but a few probable culprits would be appreciated. The front end on my stang has been torn apart for a while pending funds to finish my granada brake swap. I have been starting it about once a week ever since I tore it apart. Then all of a sudden it started running real crappy the last time I started it until it finally died and now won't re-start. I'm getting gas to the carb, spark to the distributor, and the plugs look OK. I also checked spark to cylinders 1 and 2 and I'm getting spark there. I have an MSD 6AL with MSD distributor on a 302 crate motor. I did all the basic gas and spark checks so I would like some direction on where to go from here. I was thinking either the MSD box is bad or the timing chain malfunctioned the last time I started it. Any help would be great. Oh yeah, it did backfire the last time I started it so could it possibly be damage to the carb. __________________ 1969 fast back; yellow; weld wheels; 302 roller with GT-40 heads; 3:55 gears; 5spd T-5; MSD 6AL; E-303; flows; Hedman headers; Holley 600;Weiand Accelerator;1.6 rockers

08-28-2003, 08:57 AM	#2
KiltedBanshees93GT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Pigeon Forge Tn Posts: 611	Silly question, but how long has it been apart? could the gas have gone south? __________________ ____________ '66 Mustang Coupe- AKA "Lenore" on disability for a (long) bit '93 GT Mostly stock AKA "Fawkes" Rice Haters Club Member #239 "I find your lack of faith...disturbing." "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken

08-28-2003, 12:03 PM	#3
David Fulford Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 193	It's been sitting in my garage for about 2 years with the same tank of gas in it. Haven't had the money to insure it or really play with it in a while. So I bet that could be it. Although I know it could be about 100 different things. Being a 69 with no electronics or anything, I always thought if you have gas dripping in the carb and spark at the end of the spark plug wire, the damn thing should start. The motor in it only has about 3500 miles on it so I don't think it's internal to the motor. Do plugs go bad over time? I think I will replace cap, rotor, and plugs just for the hell of it and see what happens. Thanks for the reply. I think I will put some new gas in it and see if the new gas mixed with the old will help anything. __________________ 1969 fast back; yellow; weld wheels; 302 roller with GT-40 heads; 3:55 gears; 5spd T-5; MSD 6AL; E-303; flows; Hedman headers; Holley 600;Weiand Accelerator;1.6 rockers

08-29-2003, 07:06 AM	#4
KiltedBanshees93GT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Pigeon Forge Tn Posts: 611	Couldnt you also put fresh fuel in the bowls too? And I dont think plugs can go bad, but I could be wrong. J __________________ ____________ '66 Mustang Coupe- AKA "Lenore" on disability for a (long) bit '93 GT Mostly stock AKA "Fawkes" Rice Haters Club Member #239 "I find your lack of faith...disturbing." "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken

08-29-2003, 03:17 PM	#5
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Ignition box? The first thing I would do is disconnect the ignition box and revert it to original configuration. See if it starts and runs then? If it does, you will know it's the box. My Mallory HiFire 6-AL has failed twice. Left me sitting on the side of the road each time. I sent it back the first time under warranty and they fixed it. This second time, I just took it off and left it off. I don't want something that undependable on my car. I was thinking of getting a MSD 6-AL as I thought the MSD was probably better as they are the industry leader. Let me know if it was the box. I'll be disappointed if it's the MSD box. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

08-29-2003, 04:39 PM	#6
David Fulford Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 193	I'll try that REV, thanks. __________________ 1969 fast back; yellow; weld wheels; 302 roller with GT-40 heads; 3:55 gears; 5spd T-5; MSD 6AL; E-303; flows; Hedman headers; Holley 600;Weiand Accelerator;1.6 rockers

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