Where To Find Engine Tags

kgn · 01-25-2005, 03:44 PM

I RECENTLY A 1966 COUPE WITH A 289 WITH EDLEBROCK 4 V INSTALLED ON IT...iT APPEARS THAT i DO NOT HAVE A 289 BUT RATHER A 302 OR A 351...THE WATER PUMP INLET IS DOWN TO THE DRIVERS SIDE AS IN A 1970 302 ..THE TAG IS SUPPOSED TO BE NEAR THE COIL ON THE FRONT OF THE BLOCK BUT IT ISNT...WOULD ANYONE BE ABLE TO TELL ME HOW i CAN IDENTIFY MY ENGINE EASILY? OR DOES ANYONE KNOW A SITE THAT I COULD FIND INFO
tHX
KEN

Phillyfanfrombirth · 01-25-2005, 08:44 PM

How about pulling the valve cover?

So long as the gunk isn't built up so much that the casting marks aren't visible, there should be a some marks on the head... a "289"..."302"... "2V".... "4V"...

If you have to scrape any gunk away, be sure that it doesn't fall down the oil holes... might be a good idea to stuff them before you start scraping around..

kgn · 01-25-2005, 09:24 PM

thanks for the info. I will look and post what I find
Much appreciated
Ken

Phillyfanfrombirth · 01-25-2005, 11:06 PM

Just thought of something else...

I think that early 289s only had 3 bolts hold the pulley to the crankshaft... while by 68, they had 4...

kgn · 01-26-2005, 07:31 AM

I believe I have a 302,,what year I don't knowIn 70 they started with the cast water pump im my configuration on 351 and 302..I will check and see
Thx
again
ken

kgn · 01-27-2005, 01:07 PM

Well I have some info...The edelbrock intake says TORKER 289..the Edelbrock carb says 1406 and 0521......the head inside the valve cover says 302 and 1A15. so it looks like I have a 302 with a 600cfm carb...Is there any way to find what year the engine might be? It also says weber on side of carb

Phillyfanfrombirth · 01-27-2005, 01:49 PM

That's big intake for most set ups...

at least you know that the heads are from a 302.

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/howto/5801/index4.html

Looks like a head casted on Jan. 15 1971.

kgn · 01-27-2005, 02:06 PM

MMMMMMMM Thank you..So if it was casted on Jan 15 1971 It is probably a 1971 302. Yes I agree 650 cfm does seem big....What might I experience because of this?
THanks for the link...where might the clock they talk about be on the block

Phillyfanfrombirth · 01-27-2005, 02:29 PM

I never knew what that clock was for... I think it is right there on the head, as well... Should be a circle that looks like a clock. Not sure where it would be on the block.

a 650 probably won't be that big of a deal, I was talking more of the Torker intake... if I remember right, that is a single plane manifold that starts at 2500 or more RPMS. You would gain more bottom end power and torque by stepping down to a Performer, or Performer RPM dual plan manifold. Unless you have a nice stall converter, plenty of upgrades in the engine, full dual exhaust w/ headers.... you shouldn't be seeing 6k and 7k on your tach, which is where the torker starts to really show its "manhood"...

kgn · 01-27-2005, 02:48 PM

ohhhhhhhhh ..I wonder what the previous owner was thinking? No idea if there is a stall converter ...will have to check .It does have dual exhaust no H pipe...no headers just the cast iron manifolds .....so the intake might be too much????
thank you for your comments
KGN

Phillyfanfrombirth · 01-27-2005, 02:52 PM

Stock converters... stock trannies... and stock rear gears are a certain no-no if you are running a single plane manifold. Especially if you still have the stock exhaust.

Maybe he/she got a good deal at a swap meet...

kgn · 01-27-2005, 02:59 PM

Maybe....I will have to look into this further...the exhaust is not stock ....8 inch rear but thats all I know...tranny mounts have been reinforced but might be stock tranny.
hope he did something right.
KGN.

kgn · 01-27-2005, 03:05 PM

I just went to edelbrocks site and cant find a torker 289 on there...mmmmmmmmmm

Phillyfanfrombirth · 01-27-2005, 03:35 PM

The Torker II is probably an updated version...

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/index.html

kgn · 01-27-2005, 03:56 PM

Might be...I have an email into edelbrock to find out..Thanks for your thoughts you have been great

01-25-2005, 03:44 PM	#1
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Where To Find Engine Tags I RECENTLY A 1966 COUPE WITH A 289 WITH EDLEBROCK 4 V INSTALLED ON IT...iT APPEARS THAT i DO NOT HAVE A 289 BUT RATHER A 302 OR A 351...THE WATER PUMP INLET IS DOWN TO THE DRIVERS SIDE AS IN A 1970 302 ..THE TAG IS SUPPOSED TO BE NEAR THE COIL ON THE FRONT OF THE BLOCK BUT IT ISNT...WOULD ANYONE BE ABLE TO TELL ME HOW i CAN IDENTIFY MY ENGINE EASILY? OR DOES ANYONE KNOW A SITE THAT I COULD FIND INFO tHX KEN

01-25-2005, 08:44 PM	#2
Phillyfanfrombirth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Central PA Posts: 358	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags How about pulling the valve cover? So long as the gunk isn't built up so much that the casting marks aren't visible, there should be a some marks on the head... a "289"..."302"... "2V".... "4V"... If you have to scrape any gunk away, be sure that it doesn't fall down the oil holes... might be a good idea to stuff them before you start scraping around..

01-25-2005, 09:24 PM	#3
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags thanks for the info. I will look and post what I find Much appreciated Ken

01-25-2005, 11:06 PM	#4
Phillyfanfrombirth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Central PA Posts: 358	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags Just thought of something else... I think that early 289s only had 3 bolts hold the pulley to the crankshaft... while by 68, they had 4...

01-26-2005, 07:31 AM	#5
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags I believe I have a 302,,what year I don't knowIn 70 they started with the cast water pump im my configuration on 351 and 302..I will check and see Thx again ken

01-27-2005, 01:07 PM	#6
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags Well I have some info...The edelbrock intake says TORKER 289..the Edelbrock carb says 1406 and 0521......the head inside the valve cover says 302 and 1A15. so it looks like I have a 302 with a 600cfm carb...Is there any way to find what year the engine might be? It also says weber on side of carb

01-27-2005, 01:49 PM	#7
Phillyfanfrombirth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Central PA Posts: 358	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags That's big intake for most set ups... at least you know that the heads are from a 302. http://www.mustangmonthly.com/howto/5801/index4.html Looks like a head casted on Jan. 15 1971.

01-27-2005, 02:06 PM	#8
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags MMMMMMMM Thank you..So if it was casted on Jan 15 1971 It is probably a 1971 302. Yes I agree 650 cfm does seem big....What might I experience because of this? THanks for the link...where might the clock they talk about be on the block

01-27-2005, 02:29 PM	#9
Phillyfanfrombirth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Central PA Posts: 358	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags I never knew what that clock was for... I think it is right there on the head, as well... Should be a circle that looks like a clock. Not sure where it would be on the block. a 650 probably won't be that big of a deal, I was talking more of the Torker intake... if I remember right, that is a single plane manifold that starts at 2500 or more RPMS. You would gain more bottom end power and torque by stepping down to a Performer, or Performer RPM dual plan manifold. Unless you have a nice stall converter, plenty of upgrades in the engine, full dual exhaust w/ headers.... you shouldn't be seeing 6k and 7k on your tach, which is where the torker starts to really show its "manhood"...

01-27-2005, 02:48 PM	#10
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags ohhhhhhhhh ..I wonder what the previous owner was thinking? No idea if there is a stall converter ...will have to check .It does have dual exhaust no H pipe...no headers just the cast iron manifolds .....so the intake might be too much???? thank you for your comments KGN

01-27-2005, 02:52 PM	#11
Phillyfanfrombirth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Central PA Posts: 358	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags Stock converters... stock trannies... and stock rear gears are a certain no-no if you are running a single plane manifold. Especially if you still have the stock exhaust. Maybe he/she got a good deal at a swap meet...

01-27-2005, 02:59 PM	#12
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags Maybe....I will have to look into this further...the exhaust is not stock ....8 inch rear but thats all I know...tranny mounts have been reinforced but might be stock tranny. hope he did something right. KGN.

01-27-2005, 03:05 PM	#13
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags I just went to edelbrocks site and cant find a torker 289 on there...mmmmmmmmmm

01-27-2005, 03:35 PM	#14
Phillyfanfrombirth Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Central PA Posts: 358	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags The Torker II is probably an updated version... http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/index.html

01-27-2005, 03:56 PM	#15
kgn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 21	Re: Where To Find Engine Tags Might be...I have an email into edelbrock to find out..Thanks for your thoughts you have been great

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