windsor stroker computer question

gon4x4n · 02-15-2001, 02:09 PM

I've been talking to a couple of different shops about how to control the 55# injectors need for my truck. It looks like there is 2 options and would like your input.

1) get the ford computer converted for low impedance injectors and then get a tuning chip burn for it cost is roughly $600

2) get a PMS for around $750

which one is recommended and do I really need to do this? The truck will be either a 383 or a 408.

thanks alot!

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Prerunner F150 with 92' Mustang 302, Aftercooled Vortech S-Trim with 2.75 10 rib pulley set, Maxflow bypass,
Vortech Fuel Rails, Cartech inline Pump with #8in and #6out feeding 36lb injectors, Powerflex 4" inlet tube
Edelbrock Aluminum Heads(2.02/1.60), HIFLO waterpump, 70mmTB, Performer intake, MSD 6ALBTM,
Doug Thorley Tri-Y Long tubes to single DynoMax Race Magnum, C6 with 2600 Stall 4.10s with Lockers,
engine relocated 14.5" rearward!!

84_GT350 · 02-15-2001, 04:18 PM

I think it's a good idea. You'll need something to control those big injectors at idle and start up. I'd vote for the PMS system. I've done a little homework on stand alone or piggyback EFI systems and it seems like a good unit.

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1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

Nicks5.0 · 02-16-2001, 03:12 AM

i really like my PMS. i have a really mild combo and in a coulpe dyno runs, my tuner found 25hp and even more torque. i think youll need something for the pms to convert to low impedance, but its only 1 or 2 hundred(i believe, not sure, check it out) and i really think the infinite tuning possibilities are worth it. also, its not like a burnt chip, it can grow with your combo. thats just my two cents, hope it helps you out. nick

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1990lx coupe, 302, gt40p heads, wolv 1087 cam, 1.7rr's, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, comp box on top of cobra lower, anderson ford pms, full exhaust, drag type susp. and 3.55's. traps 105mph

Mach 1 · 02-16-2001, 05:45 AM

get the ford EPEC system. It is $1000 I think, and you wont need the add on like you do with the PMS. And it offers more than the PMS. You can use it with windows, and see all your fuel/timing curves, and make adjustments yourself. I think the PMS has some limitations that you wont have with the EPEC.

Better yet, e-mail my friend. he is building a 408 as we speak, and has done all the research into this subject. The info i gave you above is what i heard from him, but he will know more specifics. Ian at LightningN20@yahoo.com

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

[This message has been edited by Mach 1 (edited 02-16-2001).]

gon4x4n · 02-16-2001, 07:23 AM

Thanks for the info.

Mach 1 I really would like to contact your friend and hear what he has to say about the computer as well as block strength and other 408 topics . However the email you listed doesn't work for me. Any other ideas?

thanks

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Prerunner F150 with 92' Mustang 302, Aftercooled Vortech S-Trim with 2.75 10 rib pulley set, Maxflow bypass,
Vortech Fuel Rails, Cartech inline Pump with #8in and #6out feeding 36lb injectors, Powerflex 4" inlet tube
Edelbrock Aluminum Heads(2.02/1.60), HIFLO waterpump, 70mmTB, Performer intake, MSD 6ALBTM,
Doug Thorley Tri-Y Long tubes to single DynoMax Race Magnum, C6 with 2600 Stall 4.10s with Lockers,
engine relocated 14.5" rearward!!

02-15-2001, 02:09 PM	#1
gon4x4n Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Zeeland,Mi,USA Posts: 16	windsor stroker computer question I've been talking to a couple of different shops about how to control the 55# injectors need for my truck. It looks like there is 2 options and would like your input. 1) get the ford computer converted for low impedance injectors and then get a tuning chip burn for it cost is roughly $600 2) get a PMS for around $750 which one is recommended and do I really need to do this? The truck will be either a 383 or a 408. thanks alot! ------------------ Prerunner F150 with 92' Mustang 302, Aftercooled Vortech S-Trim with 2.75 10 rib pulley set, Maxflow bypass, Vortech Fuel Rails, Cartech inline Pump with #8in and #6out feeding 36lb injectors, Powerflex 4" inlet tube Edelbrock Aluminum Heads(2.02/1.60), HIFLO waterpump, 70mmTB, Performer intake, MSD 6ALBTM, Doug Thorley Tri-Y Long tubes to single DynoMax Race Magnum, C6 with 2600 Stall 4.10s with Lockers, engine relocated 14.5" rearward!!

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02-15-2001, 04:18 PM	#2
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	I think it's a good idea. You'll need something to control those big injectors at idle and start up. I'd vote for the PMS system. I've done a little homework on stand alone or piggyback EFI systems and it seems like a good unit. ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

02-16-2001, 03:12 AM	#3
Nicks5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Belleville Il, USA Posts: 234	i really like my PMS. i have a really mild combo and in a coulpe dyno runs, my tuner found 25hp and even more torque. i think youll need something for the pms to convert to low impedance, but its only 1 or 2 hundred(i believe, not sure, check it out) and i really think the infinite tuning possibilities are worth it. also, its not like a burnt chip, it can grow with your combo. thats just my two cents, hope it helps you out. nick ------------------ 1990lx coupe, 302, gt40p heads, wolv 1087 cam, 1.7rr's, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, comp box on top of cobra lower, anderson ford pms, full exhaust, drag type susp. and 3.55's. traps 105mph

02-16-2001, 05:45 AM	#4
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	get the ford EPEC system. It is $1000 I think, and you wont need the add on like you do with the PMS. And it offers more than the PMS. You can use it with windows, and see all your fuel/timing curves, and make adjustments yourself. I think the PMS has some limitations that you wont have with the EPEC. Better yet, e-mail my friend. he is building a 408 as we speak, and has done all the research into this subject. The info i gave you above is what i heard from him, but he will know more specifics. Ian at LightningN20@yahoo.com ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT [This message has been edited by Mach 1 (edited 02-16-2001).]

02-16-2001, 07:23 AM	#5
gon4x4n Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Zeeland,Mi,USA Posts: 16	Thanks for the info. Mach 1 I really would like to contact your friend and hear what he has to say about the computer as well as block strength and other 408 topics . However the email you listed doesn't work for me. Any other ideas? thanks ------------------ Prerunner F150 with 92' Mustang 302, Aftercooled Vortech S-Trim with 2.75 10 rib pulley set, Maxflow bypass, Vortech Fuel Rails, Cartech inline Pump with #8in and #6out feeding 36lb injectors, Powerflex 4" inlet tube Edelbrock Aluminum Heads(2.02/1.60), HIFLO waterpump, 70mmTB, Performer intake, MSD 6ALBTM, Doug Thorley Tri-Y Long tubes to single DynoMax Race Magnum, C6 with 2600 Stall 4.10s with Lockers, engine relocated 14.5" rearward!!