Question about 5 point harnesses

mustang_5.0_kid · 01-10-2005, 06:09 PM

I am thinking about getting some simpson racing harnesses for my 5.0 and wondered which would be the best. I plan on getting them before I get my cage. I have stock seats, but I mainly need to now if I should get bolt in or floor mount and which type... v, single straps, or Y. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

fiveohpatrol · 01-10-2005, 09:29 PM

please don't install a 5pt harness without a cage in the car.
The proper harness will bolt to your rear brace that spans the main hoop. Then your submarine belt (the crotch belt) will need to bolt to the floor. And I believe the lap belts can just bolt to your where your stock seatbelts go.

NeedleBender · 01-10-2005, 11:07 PM

i must agree with fiveohpatrol, you dont wanna get too NASCAR with it either. i fuckin hate nascar. any redneck with a car can go in really fast circles.

fiveohpatrol · 01-11-2005, 07:38 AM

lmao, thats some funny shit!

Jeff Chambers · 01-11-2005, 08:26 AM

I believe the Y-harness has been outlawed by both NHRA and IHRA. They want individual shoulder straps, even though they can bolt to the same point on your cage. Wrap-arounds aren't legal in drag racing because they can slide on the shoulder bar. I've always used the duck-bill latches, only because they're cheaper than the quick-release latches. Your belts have to be re-certified or replaced every two years. That's what sucks. I've got a perfectly good set of Stroud belts at home sitting in a box only because the tag reads out-of-date.

Also, look at an NHRA or IHRA rule book. It'll show you the proper way to mount the belts so that tech doesn't give you fits.

drudis · 01-11-2005, 10:09 AM

Do some reading here...
http://www.simpsonraceproducts.com/safety

mustang_5.0_kid · 01-11-2005, 12:21 PM

thanx for all the help and i will just plan on wating telli getmy cage put in whitch will hopefully be in the next month or so

NeedleBender · 01-11-2005, 11:19 PM

Although i am from the deep south i loathe nascar. what the **** is up with that? no one gives and fat shit if you can make 195 mph left hand turns. Can you powerslide through a corner and maintain good lap times, can you fight through corners that are only two cars wide to snatch a lead?! I think not, road racing and the AMA can though. LONG LIVE SUPERBIKES and ROAD RACING!!!!!

~The Jester~ · 01-12-2005, 08:27 AM

Good call on waiting til the cage is in. The mounting of the shoulder belts is VERY critical!!! Without the cage, and the crossbar in the correct location, the only option is mounting the shoulder belts to the floor, and that is wrong wrong wrong. If you were to get into an accident with the belts mounted like that, you could sustain SERIOUS injuries, possibly spine fractures etc etc. Read up, and install the belts correctly, you'll thank yourself for it later. I see belts mounted the wrong way a lot over the summer, but funny thing is, it's always in a "street" car. For the most part racers know, and do it the right way.

I just hate to see people get hurt for no reason, especially when they're trying to be safe in the first place.

NeedleBender · 01-12-2005, 02:26 PM

I Hate Nascar!

01-10-2005, 06:09 PM	#1
mustang_5.0_kid Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 17	question about 5 point harnises I am thinking about getting some simpson racing harnesses for my 5.0 and wondered which would be the best. I plan on getting them before I get my cage. I have stock seats, but I mainly need to now if I should get bolt in or floor mount and which type... v, single straps, or Y. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

01-10-2005, 09:29 PM	#2
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	Re: question about 5 point harnises please don't install a 5pt harness without a cage in the car. The proper harness will bolt to your rear brace that spans the main hoop. Then your submarine belt (the crotch belt) will need to bolt to the floor. And I believe the lap belts can just bolt to your where your stock seatbelts go. __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

01-10-2005, 11:07 PM	#3
NeedleBender Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 72	Re: question about 5 point harnises i must agree with fiveohpatrol, you dont wanna get too NASCAR with it either. i fuckin hate nascar. any redneck with a car can go in really fast circles. __________________ Everyone loves a good six-speed... 99 GT ($27,500) Chrome Yellow ($500) 353 @ the wheels ($3500) Forced Induction (12psi) ($6000) Xenon Body Kit ($700) Bassani Exhaust ($800) 12.2 @ 113 (about $45,000) Balls enough to use it. . .priceless

01-11-2005, 07:38 AM	#4
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	Re: question about 5 point harnises lmao, thats some funny shit! __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

01-11-2005, 08:26 AM	#5
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Re: question about 5 point harnises I believe the Y-harness has been outlawed by both NHRA and IHRA. They want individual shoulder straps, even though they can bolt to the same point on your cage. Wrap-arounds aren't legal in drag racing because they can slide on the shoulder bar. I've always used the duck-bill latches, only because they're cheaper than the quick-release latches. Your belts have to be re-certified or replaced every two years. That's what sucks. I've got a perfectly good set of Stroud belts at home sitting in a box only because the tag reads out-of-date. Also, look at an NHRA or IHRA rule book. It'll show you the proper way to mount the belts so that tech doesn't give you fits. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

01-11-2005, 10:09 AM	#6
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	Re: question about 5 point harnises Do some reading here... http://www.simpsonraceproducts.com/safety __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

01-11-2005, 12:21 PM	#7
mustang_5.0_kid Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 17	Re: question about 5 point harnises thanx for all the help and i will just plan on wating telli getmy cage put in whitch will hopefully be in the next month or so

01-11-2005, 11:19 PM	#8
NeedleBender Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 72	Re: question about 5 point harnises Although i am from the deep south i loathe nascar. what the **** is up with that? no one gives and fat shit if you can make 195 mph left hand turns. Can you powerslide through a corner and maintain good lap times, can you fight through corners that are only two cars wide to snatch a lead?! I think not, road racing and the AMA can though. LONG LIVE SUPERBIKES and ROAD RACING!!!!! __________________ Everyone loves a good six-speed... 99 GT ($27,500) Chrome Yellow ($500) 353 @ the wheels ($3500) Forced Induction (12psi) ($6000) Xenon Body Kit ($700) Bassani Exhaust ($800) 12.2 @ 113 (about $45,000) Balls enough to use it. . .priceless

01-12-2005, 08:27 AM	#9
~The Jester~ Rat Killer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cold ass Ohio Posts: 1,143	Re: Question about 5 point harnesses Good call on waiting til the cage is in. The mounting of the shoulder belts is VERY critical!!! Without the cage, and the crossbar in the correct location, the only option is mounting the shoulder belts to the floor, and that is wrong wrong wrong. If you were to get into an accident with the belts mounted like that, you could sustain SERIOUS injuries, possibly spine fractures etc etc. Read up, and install the belts correctly, you'll thank yourself for it later. I see belts mounted the wrong way a lot over the summer, but funny thing is, it's always in a "street" car. For the most part racers know, and do it the right way. I just hate to see people get hurt for no reason, especially when they're trying to be safe in the first place. __________________ d-Con Racing "Nothing fancy, just 347 inches of RAT POISON!" MICE need not apply.....

01-12-2005, 02:26 PM	#10
NeedleBender Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 72	Re: Question about 5 point harnesses I Hate Nascar! __________________ Everyone loves a good six-speed... 99 GT ($27,500) Chrome Yellow ($500) 353 @ the wheels ($3500) Forced Induction (12psi) ($6000) Xenon Body Kit ($700) Bassani Exhaust ($800) 12.2 @ 113 (about $45,000) Balls enough to use it. . .priceless

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