88workcar-? reducing weight

11-01-2002, 06:22 PM

88workcar-
I originally posted these questions at the end of that reducing weight thread that you replied on earlier today. I didn't hear back from you, so I'm reposting it as a new topic. A few questions for you. I'm looking to further reduce the weight of my stang. I already have lightened my '90GT considerably by removing the sound deadening, all smog equip., added a Harwood fiberglass hood, and alum. heads. I'm still looking to lighten it up some though. The a/c (that doesn't work) will be next to go.

What exactly is..."that big chunk of crap bolted to the rear end, right were the drive shaft hooks up"?? That weight is not important to the driveshaft & rearend, nothing to do with balancing?? So it is ok to remove it then?

Also, do I have to remove my driver's side fender to get that windshield wiper fluid resevoir out? And where is the pump/motor that feeds the fluid up to the windshield? Shouldn't I remove that also? I know every little bit helps!

Thanks in advance-

11-05-2002, 05:49 PM

Ok...I guess '88workcar missed this one.

Anyone else feel free to chime in please!

88workcar · 11-05-2002, 08:00 PM

I just saw it

The block of metal is bolted under the center of the rear end. On the front, right below where the drive shaft bolts in. If you have too holes there, it's already gone. It is only there to absorb harmonics.
You do not remove the fenders. Remove the fender liners. From here just remove all the junk that is hidden away in there. The little pump is in the resovoir.
Their is quite a bit of stuff under the fenders. Remove the ball looking thing with the vacume lines. Just all that crap.
Have you removed the vacume canister under the hood? The bumpers and mounts? Complete A.C. all associated parts under dash? All rear cosmetic plastic, rear seat belts and brackets? I also have a pin on rear hatch. I wish I had the K-member and A-arms, and Alum heads.

11-05-2002, 08:23 PM

88workcar-

Thanks for getting back to me. So removing that thing off of the rearend(mine is still there), won't add any additional vibrations to my driveline?

"The ball looking thing with the vacuum lines"...is that anything important? Where do those vacuum lines go to?

I'm not sure if I've removed the vacuum canister? Where is it located and what does it look like? I removed basically all of the smog equipment, pump and lines...but for some reason I still have that charcoal canister smog thing hanging underneath the airbox, so I know that needs to go.

I haven't removed the bumpers and mounts because I still drive it on the street on the weekends...and don't want some idiot crashing into me and ruining my stang that I've put all this work into. Did you replace the the bumpers with anything at all? For a little bit of protection? Do your bumpers sag, looking from the outside? When I bought my GT(salvage title), the support for the front ground effects was already missing, as well as most of the sound deadening in the car.

I'm going to rip out the a/c & anything else I can find at the time, hopefully over the Thanksgiving weekend!

So I may seek your help once again, if I come across some roadblocks. Which associated parts of the a/c are under the dash, that I can remove?

Thanks for all of the info. I'm sure I'll be calling on you again in the future.

Simi Stang-

88workcar · 11-05-2002, 08:40 PM

Yes the charcoal thing got to go, all of this had no ill effect on mine. My freinds say that if I get in a wreck, we can call the morge.

Its not that bad, no the stuff don't sag. No vibration.

I am looking at your track time, me and you would be one hell of a run. Motor or NOS, of course I will have to put third gear in "The GRINCH"

11-06-2002, 03:59 PM

Yeah, we probably would be a pretty close race. Too bad you are on the other side of the country.

What about the a/c associated parts that you mentioned are under the dash? What all is in there? And is it worth me ripping into the dash when I do the a/c removal?

fiveohpatrol · 11-06-2002, 05:35 PM

I'd invest in some lightweight plastic seats if you are that seriously into weight loss. I have a pair that I had in mine for a few days, but I drive my car ALOT and couldn't put up with them every day. its atleast a 40-50lb savings right there.

Harwood sells lexan windsheilds for about $90, something else to think about.

The stuff behind the dash isn't too heavy, but every little bit counts, so go rip it outta there!

(i gotta do that this winter)

11-06-2002, 07:51 PM

Actually I'm not that serious about reducing the weight of my stang. Otherwise I'd be losing the power steering, and taking out my bumper supports and take the risk of getting hurt everytime I drive my car (no offense 88workcar!). I'd just like to take out anything that I'm not using...or that I don't need...without changing the appearance or ride quality of my stang. I drive my Mustang on the weekends, so I won't be changing seats anytime soon, unless some day I can afford some Flofits, Recaros, or Corbeaues(sp?). Lexan windsheild...that's a little too full bore for me. My car already rattles enough.

But thanks for the tips!

Jeff Chambers · 11-07-2002, 07:50 AM

Trying to remember some weights from the changes that I've made over the years. My car weighs in at 2920# with me in it (170#) and 5-gallons of fuel and 25# of ballast. Its an AOD car too.

Air bag steering wheel => Grant ~12#
Door impact beams => out ~17# per side
Air bag system => ~10#
90GT front seats => Late 70's van seats ~37# each
90GT rear bumper => out ~45#
90GT front bumper => out ~47# (inc. fog lights)
Unnecessary wiring => out ~25# (carb conversion)
The wiring doesn't include computer & EFI harness
Glass moon roof => Lexan moon roof ~17#
Big battery => Dynabat ~27#
Sound deadener => out ~23#

I've got a complete list somewhere in my files that includes things like fiberglass hood, manual brakes, vacuum system, spare tire, etc. I've tried to weigh the differences of things as I've made changes to my car. I think those above were about the biggest hitters though.

USMC302 · 11-07-2002, 02:01 PM

Trim fingernails and get a haircut before running that night!

Works for me!

No really, I removed my bumoer and supports too not to lang ago, seemed like 50lbs but I know it wasn't, no sag or cosmetic difference at all. The car is only drivin when going to the race a racing, but as everyone knows here, yes it is dangerous.

Get rid of the front sway bar too. Battery trunk kit.

I never thought about the water tank and motor, I will be doing that this weekend now.

11-08-2002, 05:55 PM

Thanks for all the tips guys! I'll be doing some further lightening of my car real soon.

11-01-2002, 06:22 PM	#1
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	88workcar-? reducing weight 88workcar- I originally posted these questions at the end of that reducing weight thread that you replied on earlier today. I didn't hear back from you, so I'm reposting it as a new topic. A few questions for you. I'm looking to further reduce the weight of my stang. I already have lightened my '90GT considerably by removing the sound deadening, all smog equip., added a Harwood fiberglass hood, and alum. heads. I'm still looking to lighten it up some though. The a/c (that doesn't work) will be next to go. What exactly is..."that big chunk of crap bolted to the rear end, right were the drive shaft hooks up"?? That weight is not important to the driveshaft & rearend, nothing to do with balancing?? So it is ok to remove it then? Also, do I have to remove my driver's side fender to get that windshield wiper fluid resevoir out? And where is the pump/motor that feeds the fluid up to the windshield? Shouldn't I remove that also? I know every little bit helps! Thanks in advance-

11-05-2002, 05:49 PM	#2
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	reducing weight Ok...I guess '88workcar missed this one. Anyone else feel free to chime in please!

11-05-2002, 08:00 PM	#3
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	I just saw it The block of metal is bolted under the center of the rear end. On the front, right below where the drive shaft bolts in. If you have too holes there, it's already gone. It is only there to absorb harmonics. You do not remove the fenders. Remove the fender liners. From here just remove all the junk that is hidden away in there. The little pump is in the resovoir. Their is quite a bit of stuff under the fenders. Remove the ball looking thing with the vacume lines. Just all that crap. Have you removed the vacume canister under the hood? The bumpers and mounts? Complete A.C. all associated parts under dash? All rear cosmetic plastic, rear seat belts and brackets? I also have a pin on rear hatch. I wish I had the K-member and A-arms, and Alum heads. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

11-05-2002, 08:23 PM	#4
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	reducing weight 88workcar- Thanks for getting back to me. So removing that thing off of the rearend(mine is still there), won't add any additional vibrations to my driveline? "The ball looking thing with the vacuum lines"...is that anything important? Where do those vacuum lines go to? I'm not sure if I've removed the vacuum canister? Where is it located and what does it look like? I removed basically all of the smog equipment, pump and lines...but for some reason I still have that charcoal canister smog thing hanging underneath the airbox, so I know that needs to go. I haven't removed the bumpers and mounts because I still drive it on the street on the weekends...and don't want some idiot crashing into me and ruining my stang that I've put all this work into. Did you replace the the bumpers with anything at all? For a little bit of protection? Do your bumpers sag, looking from the outside? When I bought my GT(salvage title), the support for the front ground effects was already missing, as well as most of the sound deadening in the car. I'm going to rip out the a/c & anything else I can find at the time, hopefully over the Thanksgiving weekend! So I may seek your help once again, if I come across some roadblocks. Which associated parts of the a/c are under the dash, that I can remove? Thanks for all of the info. I'm sure I'll be calling on you again in the future. Simi Stang-

11-05-2002, 08:40 PM	#5
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Yes the charcoal thing got to go, all of this had no ill effect on mine. My freinds say that if I get in a wreck, we can call the morge. Its not that bad, no the stuff don't sag. No vibration. I am looking at your track time, me and you would be one hell of a run. Motor or NOS, of course I will have to put third gear in "The GRINCH" __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

11-06-2002, 03:59 PM	#6
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	reducing weight Yeah, we probably would be a pretty close race. Too bad you are on the other side of the country. What about the a/c associated parts that you mentioned are under the dash? What all is in there? And is it worth me ripping into the dash when I do the a/c removal?

11-06-2002, 05:35 PM	#7
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	I'd invest in some lightweight plastic seats if you are that seriously into weight loss. I have a pair that I had in mine for a few days, but I drive my car ALOT and couldn't put up with them every day. its atleast a 40-50lb savings right there. Harwood sells lexan windsheilds for about $90, something else to think about. The stuff behind the dash isn't too heavy, but every little bit counts, so go rip it outta there! (i gotta do that this winter) __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

11-06-2002, 07:51 PM	#8
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	reducing weight Actually I'm not that serious about reducing the weight of my stang. Otherwise I'd be losing the power steering, and taking out my bumper supports and take the risk of getting hurt everytime I drive my car (no offense 88workcar!). I'd just like to take out anything that I'm not using...or that I don't need...without changing the appearance or ride quality of my stang. I drive my Mustang on the weekends, so I won't be changing seats anytime soon, unless some day I can afford some Flofits, Recaros, or Corbeaues(sp?). Lexan windsheild...that's a little too full bore for me. My car already rattles enough. But thanks for the tips!

11-07-2002, 07:50 AM	#9
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Trying to remember some weights from the changes that I've made over the years. My car weighs in at 2920# with me in it (170#) and 5-gallons of fuel and 25# of ballast. Its an AOD car too. Air bag steering wheel => Grant ~12# Door impact beams => out ~17# per side Air bag system => ~10# 90GT front seats => Late 70's van seats ~37# each 90GT rear bumper => out ~45# 90GT front bumper => out ~47# (inc. fog lights) Unnecessary wiring => out ~25# (carb conversion) The wiring doesn't include computer & EFI harness Glass moon roof => Lexan moon roof ~17# Big battery => Dynabat ~27# Sound deadener => out ~23# I've got a complete list somewhere in my files that includes things like fiberglass hood, manual brakes, vacuum system, spare tire, etc. I've tried to weigh the differences of things as I've made changes to my car. I think those above were about the biggest hitters though. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

11-07-2002, 02:01 PM	#10
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Trim fingernails and get a haircut before running that night! Works for me! No really, I removed my bumoer and supports too not to lang ago, seemed like 50lbs but I know it wasn't, no sag or cosmetic difference at all. The car is only drivin when going to the race a racing, but as everyone knows here, yes it is dangerous. Get rid of the front sway bar too. Battery trunk kit. I never thought about the water tank and motor, I will be doing that this weekend now. __________________

11-08-2002, 05:55 PM	#11
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	reducing weight Thanks for all the tips guys! I'll be doing some further lightening of my car real soon.

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