01 Trans am vs 01 cobra

Dark_5.0 · 10-23-2003, 05:00 PM

It never fails everytime I drive my Cobra to work I catch a race on the way home. I was at a red light side by side with a 01 TA it was black with nice chrome rims and loud exhaust.

I really wasnt interested in racing till I heard him touch his throttle and sustain a long rev. We took off from the light normally and then as if we were thinking the same thing we both punched it at the same time. we were both going about 15-20mph in first gear when we hit it. My car squealed the tires a little bit and then hooked he immediately fell back about 2 cars due to wheel spin. Then I hit 2nd and fish tailed a little and he started to reel me in. I rode out 2nd and hit 3rd he pulled up dead even with me and missed a gear and fell back again then he found the gear and pulled past me.

The guy couldnt drive and still beat me. I gotta get the LX complete soon.

scsmooth · 10-23-2003, 06:19 PM

damn that got to hurt. that is bad, is it a stock cobra??

Dave_mustang_50 · 10-23-2003, 06:43 PM

Sounds like he was pulling hard. I rode in my buddies 02 ram air and it didnt feel that strong- to pull a cobra like that I mean. Do you know if it was an ls1 or lt1?

sedanman · 10-23-2003, 08:23 PM

damn, it sounds like you meet a modded LS1 car! You need to get the LX on the road soon and get some revenge!

Jaegermeister2k · 10-23-2003, 11:11 PM

01?I don't see how it could be an lt1 unless he swapped it in.Anyway.Yeah i meat a modded ls1 once,and i gotta tell you it was not pretty

Even if they were both stock i would've put my money on the trans am.The ls1 has been known to make more hp then claimed,and it already makes around 20tq more.Thing with ls1's is,they respond to mods like a bodybuilder to steroids.A simple heads/cam swap get's them over 400rwhp.

Dark_5.0 · 10-24-2003, 04:04 PM

To clarify this guy was nowhere near stock. Probably a mid 12 second car. He might have even been spraying I dont know.

My car beats LS1's all the time but this guy handed me my @ss.

I didnt like it at all. I am sure he will eventually get to race my LX and he still might beat me his car was fast.

Dave_mustang_50 · 10-24-2003, 06:13 PM

oops, I guess I missed the year of the TA , My buddie showed me an article in a Pontiac mag that had the heads intake and cam swap and it dyno`ed like 425. Are you supercharging the LX?

Dark_5.0 · 10-25-2003, 10:54 AM

No but with 4.30 gears slicks and a race weight of 2750 it should be quick. At least I hope it will be

Skyman · 10-25-2003, 03:46 PM

Who cares if you loose, sounds like a fun race, and thats the point.

Skyler

Fox Body · 10-26-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skyman
Who cares if you loose, sounds like a fun race, and thats the point.

Skyler

Yep, I totally agree...... and thanks Dark_5.0 for still posting even if you lost in the end. Good race anyway.

302 LX Eric · 10-27-2003, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
No but with 4.30 gears slicks and a race weight of 2750 it should be quick. At least I hope it will be

Sounds like a good recipe to me.

As far as modded LS1's go, yeah, they can be really strong runners. Alot of guys that I race with (they are part of the local F-Body Association) have solid H/C/I combos on their LS1's and put down some insane HP/TQ numbers. 1/4 mile mph's are in the 114-118 range.

E

Skyman · 10-27-2003, 05:35 PM

Nice numbers outta your 331 eric! 114mph is sweet. Whatd you do to gain those extra 6 mph, I htink your first run w/ it was 108 or so wasnt it?

Skyler

302 LX Eric · 10-28-2003, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skyman
Nice numbers outta your 331 eric! 114mph is sweet. Whatd you do to gain those extra 6 mph, I htink your first run w/ it was 108 or so wasnt it?

Skyler

Thanks, Sky. I ran a few 110's last year, and to be honest, I wasn't happy with how my combo was performing. I had a GT-40 intake, Steeda # 19 cam, 65mm TB and 9.2:1 compression. The car would really lose power as soon as it saw 5000. It was really that bad. I figured that the 115 LSA of the cam, coupled with a 65mm TB and GT-40 were choking the car up top. So...I swapped in a 75mm Accufab TB, TF Track Heat intake, Anderson N-41 cam and had the heads milled to yield 10:1 compression.

Now, it's a whole new car. It pulls like crazy up top and still has plenty of low-end from the stroker. I was shifting the car at 6000 on the stock tach - so there is probably a little more in it. And, I'd like to get my AutoLogic chip re-burned and go 115 mph N/A for next year. All in all, I'm happy how it's turned out.

E

GodStang · 10-28-2003, 01:27 PM

Sounds a bit like my dilemma Dark5.0 I have a buddy with a 99 Transam I think Ws6? He is pretty much stock excpet exhaust. I want to race him but he says no chance cause 01 cobra's run 14's and his runs 13.4's. He said he would smoke me. I told him for christams I am putting in 4.10's, pullies, bushings and braces, CAI, FR500 exhaust and he says that I wll just break into the 13's like maybe a 13.9. Oh well his loss.

Dark_5.0 · 10-28-2003, 02:11 PM

Hmmmm...I hit a 13 @4000+ ft. My car is just as fast stock as most stock LS1's.

@sea level I think I could hit a 13.4 or 5

I beat them more than I lose. I just happened to run across one with way more ponies than I had.

I have me smoking at least 40 LS1's on tape at the track. I also got a good amount of footage of me getting smoked by modded LS1's.

Your average LS1 only runs 14.1-14.3 here. The 99-01 cobra is everybit as fast as an LS1 with a little attention paid to the suspension

Skyman · 10-28-2003, 02:12 PM

All about having a gooood driver

GodStang · 10-28-2003, 02:22 PM

We both drove the same car on the same nite and we were like maybe .05secs apart. So are times are close.

Shaun Barcelow · 10-28-2003, 03:35 PM

I thought most LS1's were closer to 13.8 or 13.9 stock. My LT1 runs 14.2 to 14.4 stock.

Nice setup, Dark. It sure would be nice to be under 3,000 lbs. At 2,750 with 4.30's, you outta fly!

302 LX Eric · 10-28-2003, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun Barcelow
I thought most LS1's were closer to 13.8 or 13.9 stock. My LT1 runs 14.2 to 14.4 stock.

Nice setup, Dark. It sure would be nice to be under 3,000 lbs. At 2,750 with 4.30's, you outta fly!

Dark 5.0 was referring to the LS1's at his local track which is around 4000 ft. above sea-level, making ETs look a little slower than most of us are used to seeing at near sea-level tracks.

Even stock, LS1's can lay down some nice numbers. 13.80-13.90's aren't really an issue for most with a good driver.

E

Shaun Barcelow · 10-29-2003, 09:51 AM

Yup. I missed that little detail. I'm at around 500 feet, I think. That makes a big difference. When my Bird was new, I took it out west (Colorado, Arizona, Utah). Big difference running at altitude. It took a lot of road to hit 130 in the Moab desert. I've hit 149 in Michigan. (Of course, I have way too many responsibilities to drive that fast anymore. Gotta make it home to the wife and little one every night.)

10-23-2003, 05:00 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	01 Trans am vs 01 cobra It never fails everytime I drive my Cobra to work I catch a race on the way home. I was at a red light side by side with a 01 TA it was black with nice chrome rims and loud exhaust. I really wasnt interested in racing till I heard him touch his throttle and sustain a long rev. We took off from the light normally and then as if we were thinking the same thing we both punched it at the same time. we were both going about 15-20mph in first gear when we hit it. My car squealed the tires a little bit and then hooked he immediately fell back about 2 cars due to wheel spin. Then I hit 2nd and fish tailed a little and he started to reel me in. I rode out 2nd and hit 3rd he pulled up dead even with me and missed a gear and fell back again then he found the gear and pulled past me. The guy couldnt drive and still beat me. I gotta get the LX complete soon. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

10-23-2003, 06:43 PM	#3
Dave_mustang_50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 483	Sounds like he was pulling hard. I rode in my buddies 02 ram air and it didnt feel that strong- to pull a cobra like that I mean. Do you know if it was an ls1 or lt1? __________________ 1969 Mach 1 351C with a c6(for now) Sold 92 Rag Top GT Procharged & intercooled DSS 331 LC Holley Systemax 2 Intake, Edelbrock RPM Heads,E 303 ,blow thru air meter, race bypass, 42 pph injectors,65mm tb,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/off road H pipe, Force 2 catback, TKO,Pro 5.0, K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

10-23-2003, 08:23 PM	#4
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	damn, it sounds like you meet a modded LS1 car! You need to get the LX on the road soon and get some revenge! __________________ 04 Screamin Yellow Cobra KB 2.4 (585/556 pump 626/666 race) 00R brakes, DFX clutch, Level 5's, return fuel system, Lts with 3" exhuast, FR500 wheels and all the other fun stuff. GONE 1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd (Liberty proshifted TKO) S-trim, Ported TF heads everything parted out.

10-24-2003, 04:04 PM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	To clarify this guy was nowhere near stock. Probably a mid 12 second car. He might have even been spraying I dont know. My car beats LS1's all the time but this guy handed me my @ss. I didnt like it at all. I am sure he will eventually get to race my LX and he still might beat me his car was fast. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

10-24-2003, 06:13 PM	#7
Dave_mustang_50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 483	oops, I guess I missed the year of the TA , My buddie showed me an article in a Pontiac mag that had the heads intake and cam swap and it dyno`ed like 425. Are you supercharging the LX? __________________ 1969 Mach 1 351C with a c6(for now) Sold 92 Rag Top GT Procharged & intercooled DSS 331 LC Holley Systemax 2 Intake, Edelbrock RPM Heads,E 303 ,blow thru air meter, race bypass, 42 pph injectors,65mm tb,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/off road H pipe, Force 2 catback, TKO,Pro 5.0, K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

10-23-2003, 06:19 PM	#2
scsmooth Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: new york Posts: 9	damn that got to hurt. that is bad, is it a stock cobra??

10-23-2003, 11:11 PM	#5
Jaegermeister2k Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brandon,Fl Posts: 163	01?I don't see how it could be an lt1 unless he swapped it in.Anyway.Yeah i meat a modded ls1 once,and i gotta tell you it was not pretty Even if they were both stock i would've put my money on the trans am.The ls1 has been known to make more hp then claimed,and it already makes around 20tq more.Thing with ls1's is,they respond to mods like a bodybuilder to steroids.A simple heads/cam swap get's them over 400rwhp.

10-25-2003, 10:54 AM	#8
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	No but with 4.30 gears slicks and a race weight of 2750 it should be quick. At least I hope it will be __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

10-25-2003, 03:46 PM	#9
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Who cares if you loose, sounds like a fun race, and thats the point. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

10-27-2003, 05:35 PM	#12
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Nice numbers outta your 331 eric! 114mph is sweet. Whatd you do to gain those extra 6 mph, I htink your first run w/ it was 108 or so wasnt it? Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

10-28-2003, 01:27 PM	#14
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	Sounds a bit like my dilemma Dark5.0 I have a buddy with a 99 Transam I think Ws6? He is pretty much stock excpet exhaust. I want to race him but he says no chance cause 01 cobra's run 14's and his runs 13.4's. He said he would smoke me. I told him for christams I am putting in 4.10's, pullies, bushings and braces, CAI, FR500 exhaust and he says that I wll just break into the 13's like maybe a 13.9. Oh well his loss. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

10-28-2003, 02:11 PM	#15
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Hmmmm...I hit a 13 @4000+ ft. My car is just as fast stock as most stock LS1's. @sea level I think I could hit a 13.4 or 5 I beat them more than I lose. I just happened to run across one with way more ponies than I had. I have me smoking at least 40 LS1's on tape at the track. I also got a good amount of footage of me getting smoked by modded LS1's. Your average LS1 only runs 14.1-14.3 here. The 99-01 cobra is everybit as fast as an LS1 with a little attention paid to the suspension __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

10-28-2003, 02:12 PM	#16
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	All about having a gooood driver __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

10-28-2003, 02:22 PM	#17
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	We both drove the same car on the same nite and we were like maybe .05secs apart. So are times are close. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

10-28-2003, 03:35 PM	#18
Shaun Barcelow Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Clarksville, MI, USA Posts: 26	I thought most LS1's were closer to 13.8 or 13.9 stock. My LT1 runs 14.2 to 14.4 stock. Nice setup, Dark. It sure would be nice to be under 3,000 lbs. At 2,750 with 4.30's, you outta fly! __________________ 1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula...yeah, I know...best 1/4 mile: 14.27

10-29-2003, 09:51 AM	#20
Shaun Barcelow Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Clarksville, MI, USA Posts: 26	Yup. I missed that little detail. I'm at around 500 feet, I think. That makes a big difference. When my Bird was new, I took it out west (Colorado, Arizona, Utah). Big difference running at altitude. It took a lot of road to hit 130 in the Moab desert. I've hit 149 in Michigan. (Of course, I have way too many responsibilities to drive that fast anymore. Gotta make it home to the wife and little one every night.) __________________ 1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula...yeah, I know...best 1/4 mile: 14.27

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