'03 Cobra at the track...WOW
 

Son of a gun, what a bad boy. Guy had one at the track this weekend with a whopping 1300 miles. This thing was running 12.60's all evening at a bad track. Also, it was one of the quietest cars at the track by far.

I believe all he had was a K&N, and a different pulley. That's all that he said anyway. I was impressed!

A different pully is worth quite a few ponies. So he might of ran a 13.0 stock.

What is considered a bad track. Mine is at 2800ft with a launch pad like a skating rink.

It seems like everyone is the 13's for the most part "stock"

What was his MPH. I guess it is the best deal going for 40k.

Later,

I can't wait until one or two show up at our track. I went up last week and the rice was everywhere. When I was signing up, a kid that worked there said "I'm glad you showed up. There are only two other Mustangs here" And this was from a 13 yr old kid.

I can't believe that guy had 1300 miles on it already!! You know he's having a blast :D

1300 miles already, didnt the car come out in May? 1300 miles is nothing for almost 3 months!! I put on 1300 miles in two weeks, lol. Anyways, I would expect a K&N and a Pully would help that car out alot. I was wondering if anyone has had a 100% stock time on the 03 Cobra. I think MM&FF said it ran 12.6s stock.

Distance above sea level was over 4000 according to my weather station with 40% humidity, I know my times were off. He was running street tires also.

Unfortunately I didn't get to talk to him as I was racing myself.

Some Vette guys who bought the car to see what all the hype is about got 360 RWHP stock 381 with a K&N and removed silencer the pulley should add at least another 40 with 5 more PSI of boost. 12.6's kida sad for a car with well over 400 RWHP. And the altitude doesn't affect a S/C car anywhere near like it does a N/A car so lets give the guy a Tenth or two , 12.4 with 60 more Hp then stock I have a real hard time believing MM&FF's 12.6 but I guess you can say anything you want in a mag. Real life is where it's at;) 12.4 with 420ish RWHP :o :o :o :o

5.0 mag put h-pipe,k&n and removed the silencer and some good tires and they put it in the 11's

Altitude does affect the performance of Roots type blowers. Although I cant quantify it, there is a difference. My Regal has the M90, little brother to the M112 in the Lightning and Cobra, and I travel from home (2750 ft) to about sea level every day, and there is a noticable difference in the seat dyno.

:p

Yes your right a littlemore then a traditional S/C but way less then a N/A car. WAY LESS.

stock '03 Cobra times
 

One ran here in Orlando in the nice heat & humidity & ran a 13.1 at 111mph, bone stock, dealer tag still on it! they'll run as good as the driver in them, just like in any high powered car, even the 'untouchable' LS1's....give me a break.....their jealousy is very apparent in their bashing of this great new car that will blow them away....
Later!

Want to know whats pathetic to me?

340rwhp and only running 12.6. :rolleyes:

Skyler

excuses. excuses. i do agree mags will hype it up to sell products, but maybe the last issue was correct?:confused: i say with an experience driver, slicks, basic bolt ons (EX and Filter) the car will do low 12's. who cares what the regular Vette does. lets compare it to a Z06 for shitz and giggles. you see, people are starting to compare them to vettes. must mean something. yeah, i will wait for "actual" times that are not from a mag. dont make excuses. it fastest production Mustang to date that can keep up with Vettes. now for that Z06........

Re: stock '03 Cobra times
 

You see, 111mph is good for LOW 12s EASY. The 03' has potential. It just need a driver with potential. I mean Iv'e seen earlier NA Cobras go 13.2 basically stock. I think MM&FF first claims were actually true. But unfortunately in real life, about 90% of Mustang/FBody owners CAN'T drive their cars. How many 14.2 LS1s have you seen??? Hmmm...

Ummmm..It's 341 rwhp:)

Funny though I would be disapointed with 110 trap speeds. I need 120;)

If "Aquaman" is pathetic running a 12.6 with 340 RWHP. Then the cobra must really be lame to you, the dude probably had over 400RWHP.

Later,

You guys have to rememeber. The 03' will benefit greatly from intake/exhaust/pulley mods. Its factory supercharged. It is so damn choked from the factory. Ever hear how quiet they are? Wayyyy quieter than the noisy FBods. With those mods it will drop at least a second in time and possibly up to 80+HP. Look at the all the modded Lightnings. Only time will tell....

Umm.....The car did have a pulley. I remember before the car came out everyone said how it would own the Z06.

So far its on par with the lightly modded LS1's. I am not impressed yet. Its just a matter of time before someone that can drive buys one, then we will see.

Later,

A friend of mine who owned a Z06 and still has his Viper recently Bought a Black 03 Cobra. Stock he pulled 366 Rwhp and picked up 20 rwhp (not MM&FF's 40rwhp:rolleyes: ) with the removal of the silencer and the addition of a K&N. he knows how to drive and has gotten 11.3's out of his lightly massaged GTS out at "horrible" Carlsbad. He's only had it a week and a half and is waiting to put all 1K miles before he takes it out. He said in it's current state of 386rwhp it feels like a High 12's car with DR's or Streets.

Now feel doesn't mean much I understand that but he races alot and has a pretty good idea what he's running (estimated 11.4's in the Vip and got 11.3's) and he's a hell of a driver.

The 03 has all the ability in the world (save for a little weight) to be a great car. right now they are just not hitting their potential.

Give it time...people were running some pretty disapointing numbers with the LS1s when they first came too. Oh and 20 RWHP is impressive for just a K&N.

I agree but it's half of what Madeup Mustangs got and half is substancial.

And like Cheby High Performance doesnt exagerate their times:

Especially when the LS1s came out...

Thats why I don't trust or quote Magazine numbers:) They were not as bad as MM&FF however

Forget the magazines for a min.

I have seen 3 cobras now at the track running 111mph plus in BONE STOCK FORM. BTW More traction doesnt equal more MPH aquaman.

Do you really think these cars are going 103-105mph? This is about where stock N/A Cobras were doing. Thats ridiculous. There are a bunch of shitty drivers out there, but 103-105mph, no way.

We can speculate on this all day, but the fact of the matter is the car is heavy, and 360rwhp is is about 112mph in that car. We'll see some faster ones and some slower ones.

Aqua, my car still seems run a better ET :o than yours with over 40less rwhp. :rolleyes:, my sarcsam is pointed at your constant attack and complaining about the 03 cobra. Frankly I'm tired of it. We've discussed it plenty, now your just bitching. Is it underrated at 390hp? I dont think so. I think everyone agrees it has it. Does it turn 12s from the factory? With the right driver yes. Does it go 11's w/ a few mods, with the right driver yes. Have they gone 103mph and 14seconds? With the right driver yes. I think you get what I am saying.

You come on "MUSTANGWORKS" and continually complain about mustangs, c'mon man, get over it. A good discussion is what I'm looking for.

BTW the one at the track last time I went did 111mph in 2400ft density altitude, bone stock.

A Friend of mines just dynoed 372rwhp w/ just a K/N Filter.

Skyler

-AMEN!

108<113:confused: Am I confused.

Correct, U know what I ment.

Skyler

I saw a guy with a viper GTS that couldn't break out of the 13's, I guess those vipers are overrated :rolleyes:
And for the record, MM&FF got 17 RWHP from pulling the silencer, not 40. I guess the GM mags are the model for the integrity of automotive journalism.

You took the words right out of my mouth. You know...Nothing can touch the LS-1. Even if it beats one...It cant touch it.

And sure Aquaman your car may run such and such in your area, but that Cobra is in another place another area..And something else to consider....Its another Person driving.

For example...All this talk of 12 sec stock LS-1 Fbods....Ummm..Well, not in Fayetteville. Last Thursday, the fastest one I saw (And there were several) was a 14.04 (2001 WS-6 TA), and that was from my Ex Girl-Friend. My fastest time was 14.015 (Not launching...Straight of idle..in 102 degree weather with 100 percent humidity, and a burned out Limited Slip). So, a car running a low 13 on such a crappy day would be awesome.

Oh, on that same night, a newer Viper ran the best of a 12.8.

Damn ya'll are making it hard for me to be nice:)

If 99% of Viper's from around the midwest, Eastcoast, Central plains, West coast, Southwest were unable to bust out of the 13's then you would by all means have every right to feel as if they were over rated. the 6 cars I have seen run were at 5 different tracks in 4 different states in varying weather conditions. That is what is refered to as deductive reasoning. Studies have proven that you have to have an I.Q. of over 109 to fully comprehend the process.

As for my thinking that the GM mags are the model of integrity? Have you read any of my posts?????......Yes you must have since your quoting me. So where the hell did I say or insinuate that a GM mag or any mag for that matter has integrity? I didn't, Just the opposite actualy. So if you want to make things up and put words in my mouth fine. But I do have to say that the common misconception that ignorance is bliss is obviously alive and well in your household.


Merc. - Back with this same crap again eh? Yeah cars will run varying times from track to track and day to day but not by a 1.4 second margin. I.E. my old 89 Vette ran a besst of 13.7@103 on a 66` day with about 55% humidity in Cincinnati 750' above sealevel at that track. At Firebird in Phoenix It ran a 13.9@101 on a 109 degree night W/ 37 % humidity 1152' above. In Houston on a 103` day with 98% humidity I ran 13.9@101 (damn you for making me dig that crap up:mad: ) 211' above

Now I understand that running in the rockies at 5000' and up will cause a N/A car to fall on it's face but the cars I have seen run are not in the rockies and they are not all driven by crappy drivers and they didn't all miss shifts and yes your right all LS1's run 14.0's where you are in fact the fastest ones are the one's with mechanical failures. Because we all know how stupid and ignorant the F-Bod owners are right:rolleyes: So if you have never seen LS1's run faster then 14's and you now believe that as gospel, why do you not understand why I believe the 03 to be a 104-106 trap car stock because thats all I've seen? And I'm not going off 1 state and 1 track or 1 night like yourself Mine are quite spreadout. Not to mention what Friends and family have seen run at even more tracks with even more varying conditions.

I don't see you complaining when MM&FF tested the SS and got 12 second times. Instead you're like "See, even MM&FF got 12s out of the SS, it's fast" But when it comes to Mustang numbers they're unbelievable...

I was impressed, that's all I was saying. It was a breath of fresh air from the 14-15 second stockers from just the past few years.

This one is getting run in the dirt however.