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Old 10-25-2003, 10:41 AM   #1
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Default 1/4 mile times?

what kind of 1/4 mile times can i expect from a 1994 mustang gt with aode and 3.73's, x-pipe with high flow converters, 40 series flowmasters, cold air intake and 14 degrees timing? has anyone run something similar? what 1/4 mile times could i get completely stock with 2.73's?
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Old 10-25-2003, 10:50 AM   #2
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A 14.6 @96mph would be my guess.

Stock 14.9 @93mph.
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Old 10-25-2003, 01:26 PM   #3
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I'd say high 15's stock, and low 15's with the mods you mentioned. If it was a T-5 car I think Dark_5.0s times would be right on the money.

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Old 10-25-2003, 02:05 PM   #4
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Auto tranny mid 15's
Manual tranny high- mid 14's.

As for stock 2.73 gears, don't waste your time at the strip, probably high 15s or 16's.
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Old 10-25-2003, 02:12 PM   #5
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i'm beginning to feel like a fool for spending alot of money when i can get a z-28 with an lt1 or ls1 and do 13's stock. i realize z-28 is probably a bad word on this site, but can anyone give me a really good reason not to sell my mustang and get a z-28?
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Old 10-25-2003, 02:36 PM   #6
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Head down to the local trailer courts, Im sure you can find several Z's up on blocks. Might not even have to sell the stang to buy one either.

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Old 10-25-2003, 02:44 PM   #7
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once again, does anyone have a good verifiable reason, or am i just going to get biased favoratism?
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Old 10-25-2003, 03:03 PM   #8
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Sounds like you didn't do your homework when you bought your 94. Just curious how much did you pay for it?

Sell off your stang if you want, take the $16+K that you're going to buy your LS1 camode with and pick up a modified Fox LX that'll smoke the doors off the LS1 for less money!
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Old 10-25-2003, 03:06 PM   #9
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chiaronate- first lets compare apples to apples here. Take an 89 Camaro vs an 89 Stang, you're gonna get close to the same 1/4 times stock, in the 15's. Then take a 97 Camaro vs 97 Stang GT both will be around the mid-low 14's. Take the 01 SS vs 01 Cobra both will run mid 13's.

You can't expect a 89 Stang to run the same as a 96+ Camaro with a newer motor and newer technology and more hp.

But take an older Stang toss some good aftermarket parts into it and you'll blow the doors off any Slow-tie out there.

Not to mention have you tried lookin that the aftermarket for the Camaro, man there's barely anything for the EFI guys. As compared to the Stang aftermarket, where anything you want or need is right there for the takin.

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Old 10-25-2003, 06:02 PM   #10
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My car is only lightly modified, see my sig. I paid only $4200.00 for it plus the mods. I can run with the LT1 Camaros all day long, usually beat them (the LS1's are a different story). Sell your '94 if you want to go fast cheap but don't buy a slomaro. Let the Chevy boys pay the big bucks for a look at your Fox body tail lights!
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Old 10-25-2003, 06:04 PM   #11
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chiaronate- first lets compare apples to apples here. Take an 89 Camaro vs an 89 Stang, you're gonna get close to the same 1/4 times stock, in the 15's. Then take a 97 Camaro vs 97 Stang GT both will be around the mid-low 14's. Take the 01 SS vs 01 Cobra both will run mid 13's.

Just my $0.02
from what i've read in magazines, a 1989 gt mustang is quicker than a 1989 z-28 camaro. a 1997 gt mustang is very similar to a 1994 gt mustang. a 1997 z-28 is much quicker than 1994-1998 gt mustangs. the only two that are similar are the 2001 ss and 2001 cobra. i also like how the lt1's torque peaks at 2400 rpm. it's great for my purpose, i don't race at the track.
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Old 10-25-2003, 06:46 PM   #12
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Before you think about selling, think about something else. Ease of modibility. Ever looked under the hood of a 94 to present f-body, it takes forever even to change the plugs. If moding isn't your thing, just the simple things like exhaust and gears are what your after, then maybe the f-body is for you, they are definately faster stock. If your even considering spending any money moding, then I would keep the mustang. Both brands have weaknesses and strengths, it's up to you to decide.
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Old 10-25-2003, 08:45 PM   #13
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mustangs are a better daily-driver car. they're more user friendly and easier to work on, but like you said, the z-28's are faster from the factory. it would be nice to not have to change engine parts so that i can match the performance of lt1's/ls1's. maybe i'm just getting frustrated too soon. the factory 5.0's are so darn starved for air, i'm surprised they're as fast as they are. perhaps a higher flowing intake manifold and heads would make me a happier mustang owner. maybe also a cam.
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:01 AM   #14
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Get a good heads/ cam/ intake package along with a shift kit and some gears.

LS1's are good cars LT1's are crap, there ignition system is constantly going out.

The camaros are very hard to work on compared to a 5.0.
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:22 AM   #15
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I have a friend here who has 96 Camaro SS 6 speed. The car is definately quick. True ive never lost a race to him but they are fast cars. But if you want to do anything to it its going to take you 4 times as long. He just looked into headers and the book says its a 6-8hour job to swap headers. I know a fair bit about cars and i dont even know where his ignition coil is on that thing. They put alot of motor in a little engine bay and the only person who suffers is the person who has to do stuff or pay someone to do stuff under there.
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:45 AM   #16
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Get a good heads/ cam/ intake package along with a shift kit and some gears.
This is a great way to add a ton of power, and depending upon the combination you chose, it can still be a mild-mannered street car.

I think Trick Flow now sells a complete H/C/I package complete with all the gaskets! I think it's around $2000 and you get TFS TW heads, TF cam, TFS Intake, RR (I think) and, I think it comes with all the gaskets too. Add a 4.10 gear-set and you're ready to rock.

The LS-1's are a quick car. No doubt. But, they are also nearly 50 cu in. bigger than your 302 powered GT. As said above, there are pros and cons to each. And as you know, your '94 auto GT is not as quick as say a '98 and up Mustang GT w/5 speed (260 HP).

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Old 10-27-2003, 12:00 PM   #17
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from what i've read in magazines, a 1989 gt mustang is quicker than a 1989 z-28 camaro. a 1997 gt mustang is very similar to a 1994 gt mustang. a 1997 z-28 is much quicker than 1994-1998 gt mustangs. the only two that are similar are the 2001 ss and 2001 cobra. i also like how the lt1's torque peaks at 2400 rpm. it's great for my purpose, i don't race at the track.
The 5.0 is a very capable motor. They are easy to work on, and can be made very fast for not too much money. The z-28's are pretty fast off the show room floor, but, have you ever ridden in one? Or even driven one for that matter? They are about one of the most uncomfortable cars I have ever been in. There is a huge hill on the passenger side floorboard from where the cat sits. Every camero, from v6 to ss, that I have ever been in sounds like they are going to fall apart after the first year or two. For the most part, stangs hold up much better.

These are my opinions and only that. Dont let me sway your judgement. If you think you would be happier with a camero, by all means, get one. But when it cost as much to change the spark plugs as it would for an intake swap on a 5.0, you might kick your self in the back side. I have a friend who was quoted $400 by one shop, and told by another that they wouldnt do it because it wasnt worth the effort to them.
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Old 10-27-2003, 08:54 PM   #18
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i think about getting a different car now and then, i'm mostly just thinking out loud. i've had my car for more than four years and, well, you know how it is. but, every time i think about getting a different car, i always reason that i made a good choice with my car. i've been regretting getting an automatic transmission, but it's good other than that. i recently had a bbk x-pipe put on with catalytic converters, and it rattled a few weeks later. something came loose in one of the converters. i'm going to write to bbk and ask them to refund my installation price, but if they don't, i'll buy my next one from someone else.
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Old 10-28-2003, 04:25 PM   #19
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low 15s high 14s
I had a 95 GT 5.0, Aod, 3.55, mac 2 1/2 catback, k&n filter, splitfire plugs and i couldnt get it under 15.2
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UMMM, the ls1 would be a great daily driver, i dont see how someone said they are uncomfortable? just an opinion i realize, but they feel pretty good, they will rattle after a while yes, but so will a mustang, especially a foxbody.
like you said, you dont race at the track, well then an f-bod is what you want, because as soon as you get some serious power under the hood, and take it to the track frequently, the 10bolt rearend just wont live......I swear the 8.8 rearend was built for dragracing

Even with my mods, a stock ss would be a handful from a roll, maybe beat me, being their 2nd gear with 3.42's will see almost 80 mph!!
now the lt1's just dont have much of a chance against stangs, i've run many lt1's.... lt4 hot cammed, slp headered, strokers..ect.... they just cant catch me i do like the ls1's though, pretty stout powerband they have, so ignore the avatar.....
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