1996 Cobra vs 1997 Camaro SS
 

Well, I was leaving class and I planned on peeling out since the guy with the SS was revving his engine. As soon as I get in my car, the SS starts leaving. I push play on the System of a Down cd and follow. We both exchange revs and bark the tires. Everybody on campus was watching, except the "1" campus cop we have. I haven't seen him in a while.
We pull up to HWY 80 and he gets in the turn lane to go left. I decide "What the Hell!" Maybe he will race me. After sitting at the turn lane for awhile revving at each other, we get an opening. He turns and I follow.
I stay in first gear and pull into the right head lane. He also stayed in first gear. SWEET!!!!!!! He is ready and willing. I was about 2-3ft away from his front bumper, when I punched it. The tires barked and I heard his almost like an echo. I slowly started to pull on him. I speed shifted into second at about 6500 rpm. I bark them and the SS barked them for a little bit longer as he shifted into second.
I was up to the middle of the passenger door, when I went into second. I kept the car floored. I am still pulling on the SS. By the time I speedshifted into third at about 6300, I was sitting on his front bumper!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then we slowed down bc of traffic.
I was happy, I got to finally race that SS. Even happier that I got to beat a GM product. LOL. My second camaro kill. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!
How fast are those SS's? I didn't think that my car's mods would let me pull that good.
The only thing I have against those SS camaros is the one sided exhaust. I don't like that. It had duals on one side. Just weird.

97 SS's werent as fast as the 98+, but they were still damn quick. Good kill! What do you have done to your cobra?

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3.73
underdrives
subframes
Flowmaster 2 chamber
and the all powerful K&N

Good kill. Way to keep that LT-1 at bay.

Good job brother..

Now get rid of that restrictive stock h-pipe and mass air meter and you will see what really murdering LT1's is all about. :D


Now, the newer LS1's are a different breed entirely. With all the above + your mods, you should be able to beat most stockers and lightly modded pre 2001's consistently. The modified 2001+ ones will have you battling hardcore depending on how strong your car is. Key is to keep your Cobra running temps between the N and O in "Normal" and you will be in great shape to win. This is easily worth about 10hp over the usual "hot running" Cobras out there.

"I push play on the System of a Down cd and follow."

Hell yea dude!!:D Which cd was it and what song? hehe. I have both and they are truly great cds :)

Later

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Well first, my engine has only gone above the "O" once. That was when it was in the 90's F, I had the AC on full blast sitting still. It went up to M. I thought it was cool.

To answer the "System" question: I put in on "science" #10. To get the blood pumping on the toxicity album. Got me ready and if the people weren't having their heads turned bc of us reving and barking the tires it would have been bc of the music.

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I plan on getting a C&L kit. That includes a bigger mass air and cold air kit. And before that I plan on getting an offroad Mac H and FLowmaster 40 series Non-Delta. Together, it ought to give alittle more power.

The C&L is good. I tried a Pro-M but the C&L was better for my car.


BUT an X-pipe is proven to make more power on our cars over the h. I tried the BBK h pipe and found out for myself. The H does sound a lot better though.

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I don't care about 5hp more for a different pipe. This is about sound. I downloaded a clip of a 1999 Cobra getting dynoed with Mac o/r and flows and it had the sound I wanted. I found about 12 different exhaust setups and it is the one I am going to choose. But it was close, there were some REALLY good exhaust sounds.

It wasn't just hp it was torque, which our cars desperately need. and 99 Cobras are different(heads, intake, catback) so I wouldn't make any decision based on what works on them entirely.

but oh well, better to sound fast I guess...



Not me.. I'd rather be fast. There is too much damn competition out there..

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I know. Its just that I want that sound tha will make me sound like a 5.0 and this is as close as I will get. And isn't it just a 5 hp and tq difference from an H and X pipe? And is that at the Rear wheels?

Sound clips can be deceiving so be careful. From everything I know about Cobras(from friends etc..) and my old experience with 5.0's, there is no way the Cobra can ever really mimic the 5.0 sound. They just are different engines..etc. From what I've heard, x-pipes with a few mufflers can sound pretty ridiculous. I just keep the stock mufflers on mine, for a sleeper thing.

The power difference can be different for everybody. For me, as soon as I got the H-pipe on, I felt like I lost a lot of torque. I didn't like that at all. Once I got the X on I could feel that power and torque down low and throughout the rev band.

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I don't mean it sounded just like a 5.0
Just that it would be the closest thing I will be able to get. But it isn't that much, I can always get an xpipe later.

Try shifting that car RIGHT ON redline, that will maximize the use of your powerband.

Skyler

I know
 

I am contradictive in saying: I don't want to hurt my car. I know racing is bad for it, but I can't help it. But I try not to **** at 6900. Try to always shift at 6500. Unless it is close.

You won't hurt the car shifting at 7000rpm at all. They can safely spin to 7500+ maybe even more if it wasn't for the fuel cut off. Many people get the rev-limiter turned off with a chip and have no problems. FYI, if you don't shift that high, not only will you not go as fast but your valves and IMRC's(secondary throttle) could get stuck from the carbon build up. This happens to a few people who don't "air" the cars out too often.

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I didn't know that. Thanks!!!!!!!!!

I really don't think a new mass air unit will do much for you, don't waste your money at this point on it. Now my vote goes for the X-pipe, now that would be worth the money.

What is this pre 01 crap? Yeah the 01's+ have a slightly different cam, and an LS6 intake, it really doesn't make that much of a difference. The 98, 99, and 00's are just as strong. I ran a 13.7 stock my very first run, and a few of my friends have 01's,02's, that are running the very same thing, this is in an auto. by the way. So don't paint an illusion that "only the 2001+ ones are fast.":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Wrong! The mass air meter is a proven performer on the 4.6 dohc. I see people gain 8-11 hp with it time and time again..


I guess the new LS6 intake and better cam have no effect?:rolleyes: The newer C5's and F-bods are quicker because of these parts.

It is common knowledge the newer LS1's make more power. Almost 10-20rwhp more on avergage. You want to dispute that they are quicker go ahead. My experience as with many other people have found the newer LS1's are tougher competition. If your experience is different then good for you.