what can a stock stang beat?

5.slow · 01-13-2002, 06:03 PM

hey guys i was wondering if i was going to have any troubles beating some cars with my mustang. i have under drive pullies and mac long tubes plus a high flow cats and mac cat back sys. alo i have and electric fan. i was wondering if i could beat a vette or a camaro or something of that sort?

Mean50 · 01-13-2002, 07:29 PM

You might be able to beat an LT1 car but not an LS1!

cilvrwing · 01-13-2002, 10:50 PM

dont 4get us import owners....u can beat us too...well most of us...

Stang Runner · 01-13-2002, 11:29 PM

What year is the car??????

5.slow · 01-14-2002, 08:32 AM

o yea it is an 1988 gt with a 5.0 ho engine with 79k miles on it

Stang Runner · 01-14-2002, 09:21 AM

With What you Have done to your car I wouls Say a High 13 Could be done, next you need gears and heads or get a Bit of Boost, NO2. A Comaro SS if you get a good Start He most likey wont make you Look to bad But will beat you. But if he is a Crapy drive Adn you are good you may win Driver has alot to do with and car like a up to a 1 Sec. And Some times more

HopingForAGT · 01-15-2002, 12:59 PM

you should be able to manhandle most 3rd gen camaros and maybe lt1s just depends...i know you could eat me alive lol...how much you pay for the 88gt? thats what im looking for

John · 01-15-2002, 02:15 PM

My buddy has an lt1 and runs 8.4's in the 1/8. Look at my sig and I run 8.85 consistantly. I believe he also has auto tranny. Better stick w/running stangs

. John

C Pony Go · 01-16-2002, 10:42 AM

with the higher output (235 vrs 225&215) you should be able to hang with the LT1s that are stock-heck when my 93LX was stock save for gears and exhaust I handled 98s up until 4th gear or so..

I can't remember if you had an auto or stick but that will be the diff...I also have a 88LX and its a auto but I tell you what-at 37mph drop it in low-wow-it just screams and pulls hard...

thats another point-don't get sucked into THEIR race and THEIR shift points-you'll get killed-make em come to you and race at your best points,especially on the street-there is no right or wrong-just hammer time...you win -you win...

good luck from 30 years of street racing experience

drtbiker · 01-16-2002, 06:50 PM

I was crusin 4th gear when I notice a integra pulling off another street droped the 87 mustang gt into second and ripped past him at about 100. I slowed back down and waited for him to pull up to me by then I was back in 5th gear crusin. Looked over at the car and it was gutted, had two racing seats and body kit, by the sound of the motor I kew it was no stock motor, not sure of how fast my car was since I only had it for two days I decided to race him. He reved his motor droped it to second and heard his turbo kick in, I put my car in second and poped the clutch at 4500 rpms tires broke loose. looked over caught a glimpse of his shift, rode my car out to 6500 started pulling away from him shifted into third and got about two car lengths away. Well i finally let off of the gas at 90. we ended up at a red light side by side and I started talking to him. I asked him what he had under the hood he said turbo(8psi), cold air intake, headers and much more. But I think u should almost be able to keep up with a 00 tranz am. If you do just a couple of mods my car is all stockk and I pretty much smoked the integra.

95mustanggt · 01-17-2002, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by drtbiker
I was crusin 4th gear when I notice a integra pulling off another street droped the 87 mustang gt into second and ripped past him at about 100. I slowed back down and waited for him to pull up to me by then I was back in 5th gear crusin. Looked over at the car and it was gutted, had two racing seats and body kit, by the sound of the motor I kew it was no stock motor, not sure of how fast my car was since I only had it for two days I decided to race him. He reved his motor droped it to second and heard his turbo kick in, I put my car in second and poped the clutch at 4500 rpms tires broke loose. looked over caught a glimpse of his shift, rode my car out to 6500 started pulling away from him shifted into third and got about two car lengths away. Well i finally let off of the gas at 90. we ended up at a red light side by side and I started talking to him. I asked him what he had under the hood he said turbo(8psi), cold air intake, headers and much more. But I think u should almost be able to keep up with a 00 tranz am. If you do just a couple of mods my car is all stockk and I pretty much smoked the integra.

Sorry man I'm confused

Is your car stock or Modded? No Stock 5.0L engine that I am aware of can rev to 6500 RPM and still pull worth anything. My stock 5.0 dies just after 5000 RPM. So I'm guessing you've got some pretty good engine work done? What year is your car, an 87 GT? What has all be done to it?

89 Cobra LX · 01-17-2002, 11:06 AM

6500 RPMs on the factory tach is more like 5500 RPMs. When I dyno'd my car the factory tach was almost a full 1,000 RPMs off in the upper-RPMs.

95mustanggt · 01-17-2002, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by 89 Cobra LX
6500 RPMs on the factory tach is more like 5500 RPMs. When I dyno'd my car the factory tach was almost a full 1,000 RPMs off in the upper-RPMs.

Really that much? That would mean I shift at 4000 RPM or maybe 4200 (assuming the error as a percentage)?

I don't know. I guess a dyno don't lie none, but I have a hard time believing that.

Stang Runner · 01-17-2002, 12:33 PM

M would shift at about 6500rpm with the stock tach Now I have a good tach and 6500 on the stock is about a 5600 or so in realy life. Stock Can be way off I can get the stock Tach to over 7K with the Heads I have know But it is only about 6200 in realality.

89 Cobra LX · 01-17-2002, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by 95mustanggt

Really that much? That would mean I shift at 4000 RPM or maybe 4200 (assuming the error as a percentage)?

I don't know. I guess a dyno don't lie none, but I have a hard time believing that.

I would guess the error is a percentage, you're probably shifting closer to 4200 RPMs. When my car was at an idle the Stock tach and the Dyno were within a couple of hundred RPMs.

It sucks that the stock tachs are so far off and it's hard to get used to shifting well into the red, but at least I know what the motor is actually doing. A good aftermarket Tach would be all one needs to accurately monitor the motor, but I always spend the money on something else. Why in the hell are the Tachs in the Mustang so far off? Is it so the idiots that want to shift their cars at 7k can go out and think that's what they are doing?

Jeb_Bush_2000 · 01-17-2002, 02:11 PM

I think it's because you're not supposed to rev a stock 302 that high.

Unit 5302 · 01-18-2002, 12:52 AM

I've found the factory tach to be pretty accurate, to near 6000rpms where it just goes insane. LOL. The fuel cutoff on the stock HO engines is 6250, so nobody's going beyond that on a stock system.

C Pony Go · 01-18-2002, 12:58 AM

Down low my factory was off from my Autometer 350 and up high -well,I just went by the little yellow light set for 5800..too busy to compare...

95mustanggt · 01-18-2002, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Unit 5302
I've found the factory tach to be pretty accurate, to near 6000rpms where it just goes insane. LOL. The fuel cutoff on the stock HO engines is 6250, so nobody's going beyond that on a stock system.

Which is why I am confused, how can you shift at 6500 RPM after the fuel is shut off, so the car must not be stock, but I think the guy said it was a stock 87 GT.

SO what is the true story: a modded car or a fake story?

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 01-18-2002, 11:16 PM

6250 is the fuel cut off, but it is in the computer, not activated by the tachometer rpm's.

i was doing a burnout one day, and my factory tach red 7000rpm's, but it was prboably like 6000-6200 because the fuel shutoff did not come on.

01-13-2002, 06:03 PM	#1
5.slow Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: sterling Posts: 19	what can a stock stang beat? hey guys i was wondering if i was going to have any troubles beating some cars with my mustang. i have under drive pullies and mac long tubes plus a high flow cats and mac cat back sys. alo i have and electric fan. i was wondering if i could beat a vette or a camaro or something of that sort?

01-13-2002, 07:29 PM	#2
Mean50 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 118	You might be able to beat an LT1 car but not an LS1! __________________ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, ported 351W heads (2.02-1.60 valves), Victor Jr. intake, 750cfm double pumper, MSD ignition, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, C-4, 3500 stall, 4.10 gears, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light

01-13-2002, 10:50 PM	#3
cilvrwing Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: houston ,tx , usa Posts: 49	dont 4get us import owners....u can beat us too...well most of us... __________________ "why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly"

01-13-2002, 11:29 PM	#4
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	What year is the car?????? __________________ Engine: steel mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, GT-40 Intake ported Lower, No power steering, No A/C, Mac cold intake, 65MM TB, 255 Fuel pump, 24's, AFR 165 58cc, Rocker Arms 1.7with the stock Cam, 1 5/8 short headers, offRoad X-pipe Drive Train: 3.55, T-5 with a Pro 5.0 shifter 12.656@107.71MPH See It at www.T-racing.com/mustang.htm

01-14-2002, 08:32 AM	#5
5.slow Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: sterling Posts: 19	reply o yea it is an 1988 gt with a 5.0 ho engine with 79k miles on it

01-14-2002, 09:21 AM	#6
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	With What you Have done to your car I wouls Say a High 13 Could be done, next you need gears and heads or get a Bit of Boost, NO2. A Comaro SS if you get a good Start He most likey wont make you Look to bad But will beat you. But if he is a Crapy drive Adn you are good you may win Driver has alot to do with and car like a up to a 1 Sec. And Some times more __________________ Engine: steel mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, GT-40 Intake ported Lower, No power steering, No A/C, Mac cold intake, 65MM TB, 255 Fuel pump, 24's, AFR 165 58cc, Rocker Arms 1.7with the stock Cam, 1 5/8 short headers, offRoad X-pipe Drive Train: 3.55, T-5 with a Pro 5.0 shifter 12.656@107.71MPH See It at www.T-racing.com/mustang.htm

01-15-2002, 12:59 PM	#7
HopingForAGT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Barboursville, WV Posts: 39	you should be able to manhandle most 3rd gen camaros and maybe lt1s just depends...i know you could eat me alive lol...how much you pay for the 88gt? thats what im looking for __________________ 1988 Camaro 305 TBI Trans-gp shift kit Hooker headers flowmaster series 80 k&n open element KYB shocks/struts Eibach springs 16x8 TT IIs 1995 AODE Mustang GT K&N Filter

01-15-2002, 02:15 PM	#8
John Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Ft.Myers, FL. Posts: 150	My buddy has an lt1 and runs 8.4's in the 1/8. Look at my sig and I run 8.85 consistantly. I believe he also has auto tranny. Better stick w/running stangs . John __________________ 89 Notch: 10 pt. cage, d&d rear coil overs, moser 33 plines and spool, gutted 91 Hatch: cobra int. fms. c-springs, novi-1000 w/f-150 crank pulley (9lbs.) 06 F-350 6.0 crew cab lariat srw 4x4: turbo back exhaust, sct xcal.

01-16-2002, 10:42 AM	#9
C Pony Go Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wauwatosa,WI Posts: 64	with the higher output (235 vrs 225&215) you should be able to hang with the LT1s that are stock-heck when my 93LX was stock save for gears and exhaust I handled 98s up until 4th gear or so.. I can't remember if you had an auto or stick but that will be the diff...I also have a 88LX and its a auto but I tell you what-at 37mph drop it in low-wow-it just screams and pulls hard... thats another point-don't get sucked into THEIR race and THEIR shift points-you'll get killed-make em come to you and race at your best points,especially on the street-there is no right or wrong-just hammer time...you win -you win... good luck from 30 years of street racing experience __________________ Andy Moderator-Mustang Central My car-C Pony Go my board-Visit Here

01-16-2002, 06:50 PM	#10
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	I beat a integra I was crusin 4th gear when I notice a integra pulling off another street droped the 87 mustang gt into second and ripped past him at about 100. I slowed back down and waited for him to pull up to me by then I was back in 5th gear crusin. Looked over at the car and it was gutted, had two racing seats and body kit, by the sound of the motor I kew it was no stock motor, not sure of how fast my car was since I only had it for two days I decided to race him. He reved his motor droped it to second and heard his turbo kick in, I put my car in second and poped the clutch at 4500 rpms tires broke loose. looked over caught a glimpse of his shift, rode my car out to 6500 started pulling away from him shifted into third and got about two car lengths away. Well i finally let off of the gas at 90. we ended up at a red light side by side and I started talking to him. I asked him what he had under the hood he said turbo(8psi), cold air intake, headers and much more. But I think u should almost be able to keep up with a 00 tranz am. If you do just a couple of mods my car is all stockk and I pretty much smoked the integra.

01-17-2002, 11:06 AM	#12
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	6500 RPMs on the factory Tach!? 6500 RPMs on the factory tach is more like 5500 RPMs. When I dyno'd my car the factory tach was almost a full 1,000 RPMs off in the upper-RPMs. __________________ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 5 speed 302-Cobra Intake-GT40p heads-TFS stage 1 cam-FRPP 1.6 roller rockers-3:73 gears-KYB shocks and struts-Eibach Pro-kit-HPM Mega-bite upper and lower control arms-FRPP aluminum driveshaft-16x8 Chrome Cobra Rs R.H.C. #14

01-17-2002, 12:33 PM	#14
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	M would shift at about 6500rpm with the stock tach Now I have a good tach and 6500 on the stock is about a 5600 or so in realy life. Stock Can be way off I can get the stock Tach to over 7K with the Heads I have know But it is only about 6200 in realality. __________________ Engine: steel mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, GT-40 Intake ported Lower, No power steering, No A/C, Mac cold intake, 65MM TB, 255 Fuel pump, 24's, AFR 165 58cc, Rocker Arms 1.7with the stock Cam, 1 5/8 short headers, offRoad X-pipe Drive Train: 3.55, T-5 with a Pro 5.0 shifter 12.656@107.71MPH See It at www.T-racing.com/mustang.htm

01-17-2002, 02:11 PM	#16
Jeb_Bush_2000 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 374	I think it's because you're not supposed to rev a stock 302 that high. __________________ Stripped-down '93 LX Coupe -- "Danielle" R.I.P. 05/30/02 "I've seen some crazy stuff in my life, but that...was...AWESOME!!! Oh, sorry about your car, man."

01-18-2002, 12:52 AM	#17
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I've found the factory tach to be pretty accurate, to near 6000rpms where it just goes insane. LOL. The fuel cutoff on the stock HO engines is 6250, so nobody's going beyond that on a stock system.

01-18-2002, 12:58 AM	#18
C Pony Go Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wauwatosa,WI Posts: 64	Down low my factory was off from my Autometer 350 and up high -well,I just went by the little yellow light set for 5800..too busy to compare... __________________ Andy Moderator-Mustang Central My car-C Pony Go my board-Visit Here

01-18-2002, 11:16 PM	#20
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	6250 is the fuel cut off, but it is in the computer, not activated by the tachometer rpm's. i was doing a burnout one day, and my factory tach red 7000rpm's, but it was prboably like 6000-6200 because the fuel shutoff did not come on. __________________ 1984 Bronco II, 36" Michelin Military Tires, 95 EFI 5.0, NP435 Tranny, NP208 Doubler, NP205 Transfer Case, Fill Size Solid Dana 44 Front End, WH Progressive Rate Rock Crawling Coils, Bronco 8.8 Rear, Skyjacker Softride Leafs, 5.13 Gears, Detroit Locker. Final Crawl Ratio Of 175:1 88 GT Best 60ft. 2.181 Best ET 14.350 Best MPH 98.01 ~WRECKED!!!!~

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