2003 Cobra vs. 2002 WS6

SteveGT · 09-17-2002, 06:21 PM

Met this guy at a bar in STL who has a WS6. His mods are an exhaust, FIPK, a chip, and a K&N. I'm stock except for a K&N, and a sub in the trunk.

We agree on a place to run, and to go after I honk three times. We get to the spot and are both in first @ 20 mph. HONK HONK HONK....

POW!! Both cars are off at the same time and to my surprise, DEAD EVEN. At 6800 RPM I throw the Cobra into second and mash it. POW!! Look over at the WS6, DEAD EVEN! Both cars are flying down this long straight outer road, neck and neck just waiting for third. I hear the blower SCREAMING, the boost gauge is buried, and the Cobra is throwing me in the seat. Here comes third...

POW!! The WS6 driver shifts and gets a half a car. I have it to the floor and am screaming at the Cobra to move. Never caught up to him. We both killed it @ 115 mph with the WS6 about a 3/4 of a car ahead.

Pretty dissappointing, but the guy had a fast car. We went back to the bar, had a few beers, and told ricer stories for a good part of the night.

Looks like it's bolt on time for the Snake...

Hammer · 09-17-2002, 06:25 PM

Open up your exhaust and induction... then say bye-bye to your WS6 buddy....

The 03 Cobras are choked from the factory and respond extremely well to these simple bolt ons....

The Deuce · 09-17-2002, 06:45 PM

...and after that you can say howdy to your friendly z06 driver.

*Steeda90GT* · 09-18-2002, 09:54 AM

I agree, get that lightning pulley, open up the exhaust ALL the way, get some DRs too. A guy in my neighborhood put DRs on his Cobra already, looks sweet. The car is capable of mid 11s@120mph.

fastang · 09-19-2002, 03:52 AM

WTF is wrong with your Cobra!!! I was totaly expecting an LS1 rape story...but this is just plain disgusting. From all the reports and amazing stories 5.0 mag puts out about this car you should have eaten that POS like a twinkie. And its not like you can blame anything on wheelspin or a bad launch because you went from a roll. Even with a blower the 4 cam 4.6 couldnt take a bolt on LS!?!!! Something has to be wrong here.

Anyone else here the rumors from 5.0 mag about the new blower pulley adding over a HUNDRED RWHP for the 03 Cobras?

EZRIDN · 09-19-2002, 05:15 PM

Nice run. I thought, though, on 03 Cobras that 6500 was fuel shut off. Maybe i am wrong.

BTW an exhaust, lid, etc LS1 can trap around 110-111 mph here in south florida on street tires. With your Cobra that sounds like a fair run.

Dark_5.0 · 09-19-2002, 06:30 PM

There is a guy here with a convertible 03 cobra and he is getting smoked religiously by the LS-1 crowd. Some of the guys that I have beat have beaten him.

I thought about racing him myself, if I beat him it would be just too sad

They hooked a G-tech up to his cobra and it only ran a 13.88.

who knows

Fox-4 Cobra · 09-20-2002, 12:13 AM

I still have faith (not blind devotion..lol) in the 03's . I think the TA might have been hiding something on you..If not that is one mean A** N/A TA. Even guys on the LS.1 site are talking about 112 to 117 traps and low 12's with exhaust mods on an 03. Install the pulley and exhaust and tell us about that monster smoking him next time.

HAVE FUN

1994 Cobra

98SteedaGT · 09-20-2002, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
There is a guy here with a convertible 03 cobra and he is getting smoked religiously by the LS-1 crowd. Some of the guys that I have beat have beaten him.

I thought about racing him myself, if I beat him it would be just too sad

They hooked a G-tech up to his cobra and it only ran a 13.88.

who knows

I don't trust G-Tech's at all... For one reason, when I had my truck I placed it in the exact location as the instructions said, and made sure it was level.... Well, after I made my firs run, the thing told me I ran a 10.87 @ 74MPH.... Now tell me that's not messed up, you can fool G-Techs very easliy, take one and do a hard take off, then idle for a sec, then slam it again... If you do it right, it will read all kinds of numbers.....

I don't think tha guy in the Cobra knows how to drive his car to its potential, that or there's something wrong on it...

302 LX Eric · 09-20-2002, 10:55 AM

Maybe he had a nice little 75 shot???

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

1) smaller blower pulley;
2) free-flowing exhaust;
3) drag radials
4) Pro-5.0 or equivalent shifter
5) a competent driver

= darn quick 2003 Cobra. Period. The trap speeds alone on these cars indicate some serious power under the hood.

E

Skyman · 09-20-2002, 07:01 PM

That T/A Could easily be trapping 112, right around where most stock 03 cobras are. Nothing to worry about.

Dark, your (Excuse me but...) kissing LS1's asses. Its nothin to be ashamed of to loose to a LS1, who CARES.

Why get a lightning pulley, get the one MM&FF got, and get 14.5PSI boost, why go half ***, go all the way.

Do that, ditch the silencer if you havn't already. Get some exhaust and your all set.

Skyler

fastang · 09-21-2002, 01:18 AM

Im jealous

It must be nice to have a car where all you need to do is install one pulley and and exhaust system to pretty much rape everything on the road. good luck and keep us informed.

Titan · 09-21-2002, 11:08 PM

I admit, I don't know much about track talk. What exactly are trap times? Is 112-117 (what you guys were saying) a good or bad trap time?

98SteedaGT · 09-22-2002, 04:13 PM

That's the speed you are going when you trip the laser at the end of the 1/4 mi....

0-112MPH in 1/4mi seems fast in my book....

Rev · 09-22-2002, 04:26 PM

112-117 is fast for any street driven car. The trap speed is an average of the last 60 ft. of the 1320'. The actual speed at the 1320' is actually a little higher than the trap speed on the time slip.

At one time in the past, they averaged the speed from 30' before the 1320' to 30' after the 1320'. That just made folks keep their foot in it after the finish line to improve the trap speed. That's why we have it the way it is now.

Rev

09-17-2002, 06:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
SteveGT Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 42	2003 Cobra vs. 2002 WS6 Met this guy at a bar in STL who has a WS6. His mods are an exhaust, FIPK, a chip, and a K&N. I'm stock except for a K&N, and a sub in the trunk. We agree on a place to run, and to go after I honk three times. We get to the spot and are both in first @ 20 mph. HONK HONK HONK.... POW!! Both cars are off at the same time and to my surprise, DEAD EVEN. At 6800 RPM I throw the Cobra into second and mash it. POW!! Look over at the WS6, DEAD EVEN! Both cars are flying down this long straight outer road, neck and neck just waiting for third. I hear the blower SCREAMING, the boost gauge is buried, and the Cobra is throwing me in the seat. Here comes third... POW!! The WS6 driver shifts and gets a half a car. I have it to the floor and am screaming at the Cobra to move. Never caught up to him. We both killed it @ 115 mph with the WS6 about a 3/4 of a car ahead. Pretty dissappointing, but the guy had a fast car. We went back to the bar, had a few beers, and told ricer stories for a good part of the night. Looks like it's bolt on time for the Snake... __________________ "Ricers make baby Jesus cry." 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra Coupe K&N Air Filter w/ sliencer removed 10" MTX sub with Kenwood amp & Mach 460 On the way: 4 lb. blower pulley & belt Bassani X-pipe, Undecided on Muffs

09-17-2002, 06:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Open up your exhaust and induction... then say bye-bye to your WS6 buddy.... The 03 Cobras are choked from the factory and respond extremely well to these simple bolt ons.... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

09-17-2002, 06:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	...and after that you can say howdy to your friendly z06 driver. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

09-18-2002, 09:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Steeda90GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 297	I agree, get that lightning pulley, open up the exhaust ALL the way, get some DRs too. A guy in my neighborhood put DRs on his Cobra already, looks sweet. The car is capable of mid 11s@120mph. __________________ 94 Oxford White GT. 17" Factory wheels with 275/40/17 Nitto Drag Radials. Vortech S-Trim, Anderson Power Pipe, 24lb injectors, T-Rex external, 190lph internal, 3.55s, 65mm TB, Pro M 77mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, Saleen Gauges, Crane ignition, MAC longtubes, catalytic h-pipe, flowmasters.

09-19-2002, 03:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	WTF is wrong with your Cobra!!! I was totaly expecting an LS1 rape story...but this is just plain disgusting. From all the reports and amazing stories 5.0 mag puts out about this car you should have eaten that POS like a twinkie. And its not like you can blame anything on wheelspin or a bad launch because you went from a roll. Even with a blower the 4 cam 4.6 couldnt take a bolt on LS!?!!! Something has to be wrong here. Anyone else here the rumors from 5.0 mag about the new blower pulley adding over a HUNDRED RWHP for the 03 Cobras? __________________ 98 GT manual trans, Magna Flow exh. old car: 95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

09-19-2002, 05:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	Nice run. I thought, though, on 03 Cobras that 6500 was fuel shut off. Maybe i am wrong. BTW an exhaust, lid, etc LS1 can trap around 110-111 mph here in south florida on street tires. With your Cobra that sounds like a fair run. __________________ '86 GT..5 spd....14.0 @ 98 SOLD '87 GT..5 spd...Stock...14.4 @ 97 SOLD '90 GT Conv. A4 Cream Puff...14.6 @ 94 SOLD '99 Z28..A4..Stock stall, no tuning, all motor, full weight 11.92 @ 117.95 SOLD '03 Centennal Edition GT 5 spd. 1 of 620 5 spd coupes made. http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/03/100th.htm Stock..... 2.02 8.9 13.89 @ 99.03 http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/03/100th.htm

09-19-2002, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dark_5.0 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,331	There is a guy here with a convertible 03 cobra and he is getting smoked religiously by the LS-1 crowd. Some of the guys that I have beat have beaten him. I thought about racing him myself, if I beat him it would be just too sad They hooked a G-tech up to his cobra and it only ran a 13.88. who knows __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, Vortech A-trim 7 psi 331 stroker, Canfield heads, Edelbrock Performer RPM II intake, Big comp cam looking for a home.

09-20-2002, 12:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Fox-4 Cobra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: KC Metro Posts: 3	I still have faith (not blind devotion..lol) in the 03's . I think the TA might have been hiding something on you..If not that is one mean A** N/A TA. Even guys on the LS.1 site are talking about 112 to 117 traps and low 12's with exhaust mods on an 03. Install the pulley and exhaust and tell us about that monster smoking him next time. HAVE FUN 1994 Cobra Last edited by Fox-4 Cobra : 09-20-2002 at 12:28 AM.

09-20-2002, 10:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	Maybe he had a nice little 75 shot??? I've said it before, and I'll say it again... 1) smaller blower pulley; 2) free-flowing exhaust; 3) drag radials 4) Pro-5.0 or equivalent shifter 5) a competent driver = darn quick 2003 Cobra. Period. The trap speeds alone on these cars indicate some serious power under the hood. E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

09-20-2002, 07:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	That T/A Could easily be trapping 112, right around where most stock 03 cobras are. Nothing to worry about. Dark, your (Excuse me but...) kissing LS1's asses. Its nothin to be ashamed of to loose to a LS1, who CARES. Why get a lightning pulley, get the one MM&FF got, and get 14.5PSI boost, why go half *, go all the way. Do that, ditch the silencer if you havn't already. Get some exhaust and your all set. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe-** JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

09-21-2002, 01:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Im jealous It must be nice to have a car where all you need to do is install one pulley and and exhaust system to pretty much rape everything on the road. good luck and keep us informed. __________________ 98 GT manual trans, Magna Flow exh. old car: 95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

09-21-2002, 11:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	I admit, I don't know much about track talk. What exactly are trap times? Is 112-117 (what you guys were saying) a good or bad trap time? __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-22-2002, 04:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
98SteedaGT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 330	That's the speed you are going when you trip the laser at the end of the 1/4 mi.... 0-112MPH in 1/4mi seems fast in my book.... __________________ // 1998 GT-Steeda Conversion \\ -- Sold // Now own 2001 F-150 SuperCrew 5.4L \\

09-22-2002, 04:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	112-117 112-117 is fast for any street driven car. The trap speed is an average of the last 60 ft. of the 1320'. The actual speed at the 1320' is actually a little higher than the trap speed on the time slip. At one time in the past, they averaged the speed from 30' before the 1320' to 30' after the 1320'. That just made folks keep their foot in it after the finish line to improve the trap speed. That's why we have it the way it is now. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

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