340 Duster, can he beat me?
 

i don't know much about these cars. i looked it up on the net and it looks like an old muscle car. From what his girl friend says it's supposed to be pretty quick. But i don't know if it's a 5speed or automatic. he does have e.t. street tires on it. And i think it might be stock. His girlfriend sits next to me in my computer class, she said he wants to race me because his car is a "Stang killer". I plan on getting a GT-40 Intake and 3.73's within the next few weeks. Oh and as far as she knows, his engine is all stock he just got done rebuilding it. What do you guys think? I'm going to race him no matter what as soon as i get my intake and gears. but will that help me win or will he destroy me anyways?

If its stock i think it might be close, those cars never came with 5 Speeds, but the 340 is not really known for being a real power house, but anyway if you can launch you should be able to beat him.



Steven

PYA Racing

There's only one way to find out! Good Luck!

good luck let us know how it turns out

A stang killer??? I say SMOKE EM. Get some vht for your tires take off your fan, if its not electric, set your base timing to 14. Unload all your books and spare tire and anything else you can do and go prepared to do battle.

BTW, i think he modded his engine during the rebuild. Stock tires would be good on a stock motor w an auto. Et streets are usually not put on till they're needed. ESP with an auto

Re: 340 Duster, can he beat me?
 

If he Like Me is Running a Low Plane Intake with Dual carberators and the Dodge Manuel Only came in a 4 speed Not a 5 he Might Dust you But remeber His cars has probaly 700 if not a 1000 Pounds Heavier then Our Newer cars.

Thanks for the info.
 

Thanks for your guy's input...i'll let you guys know how it goes, think i'm gonna race him next weekend. then i'll resurrect the post. tell you how i did.

The only way I see him beating you is if he's modded. If you get traction I can't see him waxing you given the weight difference of the two cars and stock HP of a 340cid. I do think you have to match his traction because I think this will be key. 84gt347 got it right, get ready for battle! Good luck!!

Coupe

Re: Re: 340 Duster, can he beat me?
 

miss is correct about the 4 speed instead of a the 5 speed thing. however, i seriously doubt that there is such a discrepancy in weight between the cars (although i know nothing about yelow jaket's car). the duster/demon line was chrysler's compact offering.

i suspect the duster owner hopped up the engine if they are the type interested in street racing/racing. it is the perfect opportunity to mod, and often times performance parts are better "value" than replacement parts on older cars

the only way to tell is to run him. older cars aren't always predictable......i wouldn't be surprised to see the duster be a 15 second car, nor would i be surprised to learn it is an 11 second ride

'70 340 Duster
 

According to one source that I have, the '70 340 Duster ran a 14.72 ET at 92.24 mph trap speed for the 1/4 mile. The source is an obsolete web site called Muscle Car Data Base. It was just a collection of magazine tests from when the cars were new. The Duster was 340/4speed with a 3.23 rear end. Advertised 275 hp @ 5000 and 340 lb./ft. @ 3200. Claimed a 0-60 mph time of 6.2 seconds.

Remember those were gross hp figures then and bias belted tires. Hope this gives some insight.

Rev

I'd be carefull around those those "old muscle cars." A stock 340 duster is pretty quick, a modded one is fast. I think if the guy knows enough to put ET's on it, he's fast. Let us know. My money is on the Dodge.

Looking at your mods I think the duster will 0WN YOU!!

I'm with Dark 5.0 on this one. I've had buddies with mild modded 340 and they ran deep 8.0's in the 1/8th mile.

It'll be fun, but I wouldn't bet money on it if I were you.

honesty
 

lol...well at least your honest :D

I have a few things to say here. I grew up around mopars until my Dad got an 87LX 5.0 then I started on stangs. But if there is one thing I do know, its that 340 dusters are quick. What year is it? 70 and 71's were the quickest by far.
All I have to say about this is that my Uncle raced a 71 Duster for years, with little more than a good cam, 360 heads and a victor jr. and 650 holley and ran high 11's. Granted this was a race car, but 340 non-theless. My Uncle also has a 70 340 with an automatic with exhaust and gears went 14.1's with a bone stock motor and stock manifolds. My Dad had a 71 Duster 4 speed on bias ply's ran a 13.47. And that car had very mild head work and a small cam with 3.91's. So before you agree to a race find out what all is there. He might be out just to pick on people with mildly modified mustangs. May I suggest skipping the GT-40 intake. $500 can go somewhere else very easily. Get yourself a good mass air meter and definately get the gears. If you can get traction and he isn;t modified too much, you can beat him.

Steed
 

Steed, i talked to my dad who used to race with his mustang and a bunch of his friends. He told me almost exactly what you just said. So i believe that he'll probably beat me but what the heck, i'll race him anyways.

Yeah, you never know until you try. You may spank him big time. He may be one of these basic rebuld guys that lowers the compression and all this other stuff. Good luck and let us know.

Stock?
 

He did specify mostly stock. I too am wondering why the MT streets, if it doesn't really need them? We all know about stuff added onto cars that isn't needed though. I'll bet some of us also know a little about fast Mopars from the 60-70's.

Rev

I also have owned and raced old mopars the average 340 in a duster is good for mid 14s with traction also depending on condition. Also mostly stock is different for everyone because we still have a mopar that we say is mostly stock which will run 12.8 on street tires and through exhaust so be carful. Even though I live and breath mustangs I still love driving the old musle

Hmmm
 

My first brand new car was a 1972 340 Duster, mine was an automatic with 323 gears. I am really a reformed Chrysler attic. He is going to whip your *****. He is not stock to make a claim to kill mustangs. You are stock, he will kill you. As a betting man, I am willing to bet the boat on the duster. Plus, the duster wieghts no more than a mustang gt.

The race will go like this: he will holeshot and you will never see him again. I wish you all the luck in the world, you will need it.

Re: Hmmm
 

I don't know what to think of your post. Are you mad, trying to make me feel bad? Or do you always sound like a dick head? Sorry, you just pissed me off a little bit. I say nothing about how his car sucks or anything and you come around telling me how much my car sucks. Can i please meet you face to face so i can kick the **** out of you because you don't seem like a very nice person. I try to be respectful to everyone but when you say something like that and expect a nice reply, forget about it. As for everyone else, thanks very much your information and I will let you guys know how it goes.

Wow
 

I am sorry that you took my post as anything but humor, you must be new to the streetracing world. I did not say that your car sucks, I said it was stock, which is what you said.

In the streetracing game, you need a sense of humor, or you are not going to have very much fun. If you want to meet me and kick my butt, I hope you are talking about my car, anything esle is a no win situation for both of us. ;)

If the truth hurts do not ask. If I hurt your feeling, I will send you a hug. :p

340 dusters usually come in around 3300lbs so they are a lightweight (even though they don't look it) and you can fit a pretty wide tire on 'em. The 340 loves to rev and even chrysler literature braged about their ability to rev past 6 g's so a well built motor could be a handful. Plus, my GF wouldn't be able to tell anyone much about my car either, so until you talk to the owner, all bets are off.
Get a 150 hp dry shot for your car and then it'll be a lot more fun.

Re: Wow
 

oh you were kidding? oh ok me too then :p

red82gt
 

red82gt I just read your sig, can i use your car. lol, i wish :D

I just beat one with a 360, carb, exhaust and gears, in a 85Gt w/ exhaust gears 5spd 88 heads and aintake/carb.

Skyler

Skyman's closer and his car's quicker, borrow his :) With my latest tweeks to my combo, it'll hopefully go 12's.

well, i'm an old mopar man too.
 

but, your average, run of the mill street duster with a small block is a mid 14's car. now i said average, so dont attack me. i have seen a few as well that are stormers, but they are the exception. i think that it will probably come down to traction and driver ability.
i had a 70 dart with a mild 440 a few years back, i caused a lot of late model performance cars to tuck tail and run. but again, cars that really perform on the street are not common. now all of you folks on the board probably are pretty savvy about tuning and dialing in a carb car, your average joe is not. cant tell you how many hot sounding cars that i have seen that cant "run out of a shower of rain". this guy may be an awesome mechanic and tuner, but odds are that he is not.
just my 2 cents:)

Actually, I was wrong with my previous post. The 70 Duster my uncle has ran 14.3 on street tires, was bone stock except for the tranny, and still had the 3.23 gears. I am sorry. And the car ran that with anyone who would race it. So, Mid 14's is correct, but I HIGHLY doubt that the car is stock.

engine is stock
 

Check this out, his car just got in the school paper for "Beast of the month" award. Gave some info on his car too, he says its a factory stock 340 engine with 390 HP. Tranny only has 3 gears and is "Shifted" with an all steel shifter. Don't know if that means its auto or what but that's what the article said. Also, 390HP sound right for a "stock" 340?

Re: engine is stock
 

In a word:

NO.

yelowjaket,

Get some nitrous.

:p factory stock 340's through 71 were rated at 275hp. the few 340 sixpacks were a little higher, but the 4bbl cars actually ran better.

STOCK? Hmmm, Maybe I'll bring my stock 11sec. coupe down there for a go!

stock 93 what?:p

ahwile ago
 

I thought I posted that awhile ago, LOL.

Rev

Please
 

yes, that would be great! that way i wouldn't have to get stomped hehehe. ;)

Be positive. Get your gear together. the vht, the tires, Cut that fan loose. by pass the smog pump, pull the spare tire and jack out. Find a real slick, no traction spot to race. Use the vht and good tires and , know the place your going to lead him to. Practice on it a few times with the vht and good tires and you will have an advantage. He would have to be reeeal fast to overcome that. I raced one of those kit cobras one time. He was supose to be SO fast. I did not want to lose. I chose a real slick spot to race from. I practiced for 3 hours out there before i called him out. I dont know if his car is faster or not, but i smoked his tire spinning butt