340 Duster, can he beat me?

yelowjaket · 02-23-2003, 12:34 PM

i don't know much about these cars. i looked it up on the net and it looks like an old muscle car. From what his girl friend says it's supposed to be pretty quick. But i don't know if it's a 5speed or automatic. he does have e.t. street tires on it. And i think it might be stock. His girlfriend sits next to me in my computer class, she said he wants to race me because his car is a "Stang killer". I plan on getting a GT-40 Intake and 3.73's within the next few weeks. Oh and as far as she knows, his engine is all stock he just got done rebuilding it. What do you guys think? I'm going to race him no matter what as soon as i get my intake and gears. but will that help me win or will he destroy me anyways?

Stang67 · 02-23-2003, 01:44 PM

If its stock i think it might be close, those cars never came with 5 Speeds, but the 340 is not really known for being a real power house, but anyway if you can launch you should be able to beat him.

Steven

PYA Racing

Stang_Crazy · 02-23-2003, 02:16 PM

There's only one way to find out! Good Luck!

explicitone · 02-25-2003, 06:48 PM

good luck let us know how it turns out

84gt347 · 02-25-2003, 09:09 PM

A stang killer??? I say SMOKE EM. Get some vht for your tires take off your fan, if its not electric, set your base timing to 14. Unload all your books and spare tire and anything else you can do and go prepared to do battle.

84gt347 · 02-25-2003, 09:11 PM

BTW, i think he modded his engine during the rebuild. Stock tires would be good on a stock motor w an auto. Et streets are usually not put on till they're needed. ESP with an auto

Miss Mischief · 02-26-2003, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by yelowjaket
i don't know much about these cars. i looked it up on the net and it looks like an old muscle car. From what his girl friend says it's supposed to be pretty quick. But i don't know if it's a 5speed or automatic. he does have e.t. street tires on it. And i think it might be stock. His girlfriend sits next to me in my computer class, she said he wants to race me because his car is a "Stang killer". I plan on getting a GT-40 Intake and 3.73's within the next few weeks. Oh and as far as she knows, his engine is all stock he just got done rebuilding it. What do you guys think? I'm going to race him no matter what as soon as i get my intake and gears. but will that help me win or will he destroy me anyways?

If he Like Me is Running a Low Plane Intake with Dual carberators and the Dodge Manuel Only came in a 4 speed Not a 5 he Might Dust you But remeber His cars has probaly 700 if not a 1000 Pounds Heavier then Our Newer cars.

yelowjaket · 02-26-2003, 12:51 PM

Thanks for your guy's input...i'll let you guys know how it goes, think i'm gonna race him next weekend. then i'll resurrect the post. tell you how i did.

coupe93 · 03-02-2003, 03:46 PM

The only way I see him beating you is if he's modded. If you get traction I can't see him waxing you given the weight difference of the two cars and stock HP of a 340cid. I do think you have to match his traction because I think this will be key. 84gt347 got it right, get ready for battle! Good luck!!

Coupe

this is not cbring · 03-02-2003, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Miss Mischief
If he Like Me is Running a Low Plane Intake with Dual carberators and the Dodge Manuel Only came in a 4 speed Not a 5 he Might Dust you But remeber His cars has probaly 700 if not a 1000 Pounds Heavier then Our Newer cars.

miss is correct about the 4 speed instead of a the 5 speed thing. however, i seriously doubt that there is such a discrepancy in weight between the cars (although i know nothing about yelow jaket's car). the duster/demon line was chrysler's compact offering.

i suspect the duster owner hopped up the engine if they are the type interested in street racing/racing. it is the perfect opportunity to mod, and often times performance parts are better "value" than replacement parts on older cars

the only way to tell is to run him. older cars aren't always predictable......i wouldn't be surprised to see the duster be a 15 second car, nor would i be surprised to learn it is an 11 second ride

Rev · 03-02-2003, 07:48 PM

According to one source that I have, the '70 340 Duster ran a 14.72 ET at 92.24 mph trap speed for the 1/4 mile. The source is an obsolete web site called Muscle Car Data Base. It was just a collection of magazine tests from when the cars were new. The Duster was 340/4speed with a 3.23 rear end. Advertised 275 hp @ 5000 and 340 lb./ft. @ 3200. Claimed a 0-60 mph time of 6.2 seconds.

Remember those were gross hp figures then and bias belted tires. Hope this gives some insight.

Rev

gofastmercury · 03-02-2003, 11:12 PM

I'd be carefull around those those "old muscle cars." A stock 340 duster is pretty quick, a modded one is fast. I think if the guy knows enough to put ET's on it, he's fast. Let us know. My money is on the Dodge.

Dark_5.0 · 03-03-2003, 05:39 PM

Looking at your mods I think the duster will 0WN YOU!!

Gearbanger · 03-05-2003, 01:44 AM

I'm with Dark 5.0 on this one. I've had buddies with mild modded 340 and they ran deep 8.0's in the 1/8th mile.

It'll be fun, but I wouldn't bet money on it if I were you.

yelowjaket · 03-05-2003, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Looking at your mods I think the duster will 0WN YOU!!

lol...well at least your honest

GTSteed89 · 03-06-2003, 12:42 PM

I have a few things to say here. I grew up around mopars until my Dad got an 87LX 5.0 then I started on stangs. But if there is one thing I do know, its that 340 dusters are quick. What year is it? 70 and 71's were the quickest by far.

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If its stock i think it might be close, those cars never came with 5 Speeds, but the 340 is not really known for being a real power house, but anyway if you can launch you should be able to beat him.

All I have to say about this is that my Uncle raced a 71 Duster for years, with little more than a good cam, 360 heads and a victor jr. and 650 holley and ran high 11's. Granted this was a race car, but 340 non-theless. My Uncle also has a 70 340 with an automatic with exhaust and gears went 14.1's with a bone stock motor and stock manifolds. My Dad had a 71 Duster 4 speed on bias ply's ran a 13.47. And that car had very mild head work and a small cam with 3.91's. So before you agree to a race find out what all is there. He might be out just to pick on people with mildly modified mustangs. May I suggest skipping the GT-40 intake. $500 can go somewhere else very easily. Get yourself a good mass air meter and definately get the gears. If you can get traction and he isn;t modified too much, you can beat him.

yelowjaket · 03-06-2003, 01:34 PM

Steed, i talked to my dad who used to race with his mustang and a bunch of his friends. He told me almost exactly what you just said. So i believe that he'll probably beat me but what the heck, i'll race him anyways.

GTSteed89 · 03-06-2003, 01:38 PM

Yeah, you never know until you try. You may spank him big time. He may be one of these basic rebuld guys that lowers the compression and all this other stuff. Good luck and let us know.

Rev · 03-06-2003, 06:08 PM

He did specify mostly stock. I too am wondering why the MT streets, if it doesn't really need them? We all know about stuff added onto cars that isn't needed though. I'll bet some of us also know a little about fast Mopars from the 60-70's.

Rev

superwillard · 03-07-2003, 05:49 PM

I also have owned and raced old mopars the average 340 in a duster is good for mid 14s with traction also depending on condition. Also mostly stock is different for everyone because we still have a mopar that we say is mostly stock which will run 12.8 on street tires and through exhaust so be carful. Even though I live and breath mustangs I still love driving the old musle

02-23-2003, 12:34 PM	#1
yelowjaket Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ-USA Posts: 114	340 Duster, can he beat me? i don't know much about these cars. i looked it up on the net and it looks like an old muscle car. From what his girl friend says it's supposed to be pretty quick. But i don't know if it's a 5speed or automatic. he does have e.t. street tires on it. And i think it might be stock. His girlfriend sits next to me in my computer class, she said he wants to race me because his car is a "Stang killer". I plan on getting a GT-40 Intake and 3.73's within the next few weeks. Oh and as far as she knows, his engine is all stock he just got done rebuilding it. What do you guys think? I'm going to race him no matter what as soon as i get my intake and gears. but will that help me win or will he destroy me anyways? __________________ 90redGT -Flowmaster mufflers -BBK 2.5" H-Pipe w/cats -BBK equal length shorty headers -K&N -BBK 65mm Throttle Body -Edelbrock performer 5.0 intake -3.73 gears

02-23-2003, 02:16 PM	#3
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	There's only one way to find out! Good Luck! __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

02-25-2003, 06:48 PM	#4
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	good luck let us know how it turns out __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

02-25-2003, 09:09 PM	#5
84gt347 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: sherwood Forest Posts: 291	A stang killer??? I say SMOKE EM. Get some vht for your tires take off your fan, if its not electric, set your base timing to 14. Unload all your books and spare tire and anything else you can do and go prepared to do battle. __________________ 84 gt350 89 lx vert 92 lincoln lsc. All Forced ( one way or another)

02-25-2003, 09:11 PM	#6
84gt347 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: sherwood Forest Posts: 291	BTW, i think he modded his engine during the rebuild. Stock tires would be good on a stock motor w an auto. Et streets are usually not put on till they're needed. ESP with an auto __________________ 84 gt350 89 lx vert 92 lincoln lsc. All Forced ( one way or another)

02-23-2003, 01:44 PM	#2
Stang67 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Califorina Posts: 8	If its stock i think it might be close, those cars never came with 5 Speeds, but the 340 is not really known for being a real power house, but anyway if you can launch you should be able to beat him. Steven PYA Racing

02-26-2003, 12:51 PM	#8
yelowjaket Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ-USA Posts: 114	Thanks for the info. Thanks for your guy's input...i'll let you guys know how it goes, think i'm gonna race him next weekend. then i'll resurrect the post. tell you how i did. __________________ 90redGT -Flowmaster mufflers -BBK 2.5" H-Pipe w/cats -BBK equal length shorty headers -K&N -BBK 65mm Throttle Body -Edelbrock performer 5.0 intake -3.73 gears

03-02-2003, 03:46 PM	#9
coupe93 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 16	The only way I see him beating you is if he's modded. If you get traction I can't see him waxing you given the weight difference of the two cars and stock HP of a 340cid. I do think you have to match his traction because I think this will be key. 84gt347 got it right, get ready for battle! Good luck!! Coupe

03-02-2003, 07:48 PM	#11
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	'70 340 Duster According to one source that I have, the '70 340 Duster ran a 14.72 ET at 92.24 mph trap speed for the 1/4 mile. The source is an obsolete web site called Muscle Car Data Base. It was just a collection of magazine tests from when the cars were new. The Duster was 340/4speed with a 3.23 rear end. Advertised 275 hp @ 5000 and 340 lb./ft. @ 3200. Claimed a 0-60 mph time of 6.2 seconds. Remember those were gross hp figures then and bias belted tires. Hope this gives some insight. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe Last edited by Rev; 03-02-2003 at 08:35 PM..

03-02-2003, 11:12 PM	#12
gofastmercury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 366	I'd be carefull around those those "old muscle cars." A stock 340 duster is pretty quick, a modded one is fast. I think if the guy knows enough to put ET's on it, he's fast. Let us know. My money is on the Dodge. __________________ 93LXcopcarSOLD14.3@96 @ 4500ft 2.02 60ft on street tires. my 67 ranchero NOT A 390 ANY MORE! 460! 3.70's cast manifolds, comp cams 262H, performer, 750DP 100K out of 79 F250 NEW(oct20/02)14.58@95mph 2.3 60 ft corrects to:13.86@100 66 merc comet351w, isky roller 600 lift 268/260@.050, vic jr. 700DP, 5000stall, 4.56's c-4, 3400lbs with driver 12.3@110 @ 4000ft 1.69 60 ft corrects to:11.69@115

03-03-2003, 05:39 PM	#13
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Looking at your mods I think the duster will 0WN YOU!! __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

03-05-2003, 01:44 AM	#14
Gearbanger Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Birmingham, Alabama, USA Posts: 12	I'm with Dark 5.0 on this one. I've had buddies with mild modded 340 and they ran deep 8.0's in the 1/8th mile. It'll be fun, but I wouldn't bet money on it if I were you. __________________ Gearbanger says: If you can't find em, grind em.

03-06-2003, 01:34 PM	#17
yelowjaket Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ-USA Posts: 114	Steed Steed, i talked to my dad who used to race with his mustang and a bunch of his friends. He told me almost exactly what you just said. So i believe that he'll probably beat me but what the heck, i'll race him anyways. __________________ 90redGT -Flowmaster mufflers -BBK 2.5" H-Pipe w/cats -BBK equal length shorty headers -K&N -BBK 65mm Throttle Body -Edelbrock performer 5.0 intake -3.73 gears

03-06-2003, 01:38 PM	#18
GTSteed89 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Leesport, PA USA Posts: 24	Yeah, you never know until you try. You may spank him big time. He may be one of these basic rebuld guys that lowers the compression and all this other stuff. Good luck and let us know. __________________ 89GT, 392, AFR 185's, 11.30:1 compression, Victor Jr., 241/251 dur. @.050 with .570 lift with 1.72's, 750 Speed Demon,1 3/4 longtubes, C4 w/ 8in., 3.73's, Detroit Locker, sway bar off front, Moroso Trick drag springs on all 4 corners, Pro3I control arms with adjustable spring jack, HPM Double adjustable uppers, solid bushings, 70/30's, subframes, 3" X-pipe, 2 chamber flows (3") 11.05 @ 120 1.51 60ft. on 26x10 Hoosier slicks. 11.06 @ 121 1.54 60ft. with the 8 inch and 26x10 Mickey slicks.

03-06-2003, 06:08 PM	#19
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Stock? He did specify mostly stock. I too am wondering why the MT streets, if it doesn't really need them? We all know about stuff added onto cars that isn't needed though. I'll bet some of us also know a little about fast Mopars from the 60-70's. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

03-07-2003, 05:49 PM	#20
superwillard Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: roseville mi. Posts: 26	I also have owned and raced old mopars the average 340 in a duster is good for mid 14s with traction also depending on condition. Also mostly stock is different for everyone because we still have a mopar that we say is mostly stock which will run 12.8 on street tires and through exhaust so be carful. Even though I live and breath mustangs I still love driving the old musle

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