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FivepointOH 06-22-2002 01:39 PM

93 Probe GT how fast?
 
I was at my friend apartment last nite and some guy shows up I didn't know. First thing he does is start asking me what I've done to my car.... I don't like to say what i've done so I asked him what kind of car he had. 93 Probe GT 5spd stock except for exhaust and clutch. He said it runs 14.8's?? He then proceeded to tell me about all sorts of money races etc he's been in and how he's raced this car and that. So I told him I had a stock aod with exhaust and we should run about the same times http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/cont.../Wink_anim.gif and why don't we race for $20. He then proceeded to back down and tell me he was getting a "Garrett T4 turbo" for it in a few weeks and he will race me then. Typical ricer move. Anyway was the guy bsing about running a 14.8? How fast are these things? I know it's not a turbo one just the regular GT.

Rev 06-22-2002 02:09 PM

Beer talk?
 
FivepointOH, it sounds like party time beer talk to me. Once somebody starts saying later, after I get this mod or that, it means they don't really want to race. At least that's been my experience for the last 40 years. If someone is serious they'll jump at the chance, at least to set up the race.

On a side note, we really should not street race if there has been much alcohlol consumed. But we all knew that anyway.

Rev

explicitone 06-26-2002 02:39 PM

maybe a 15.8 i dont think it would run a 14.8 a clutch and exu. even if it was one of the turbo probes I raced a turbo probe in my 95GT AODE when it was bone stock(even still had the air sli.) and I beat him by 3-4 cars and that car run a 15.1 at 92mph stock

97 Stang 06-26-2002 06:40 PM

Hey, I used to own a Probe before I got my Mustang. His times sound reasonable. The GT's are low-mid 15 second cars in stock trim. So with a good driver and his mods they sound realistic.

StoplightWarrior 06-26-2002 06:41 PM

14.8 is probably a little off, but it could be true. Those things have a fair amount of power, 4.30 gears stock, and are super light. (for a domestic car). My friend had a 5speed probe GT and he wasted me when I had my modded 95 v6 stang. 14.8 is a possiblity, but again, I doubt it.

sedanman 06-26-2002 11:19 PM

A friend of mine has a 95 probe GT 5spd (his nice car is a 95 gt with bolt ons) anyway the other night at the track he could not take his stang so he showed up in his probe. So anyways we gave him crap tell he finally agreed to run it his best pass (out of two) was a 16.0@86.6, although he did only get this car three weeks ago, so he could probably get better times with more practice. Well we were there he looked at some other probes to get a idea of a few mods he could do to his driver there was a CAI and exhaust car running 14.9's so I bet the time is the truth.

MattwantsSpeed 06-27-2002 07:50 PM

First off, I find it hard to believe. BUT on the other hand I have heard that the 89-92 and 93-97 Probes all ran similar times even with the different bodies and diff. engines. I did witnessed a stock 91 GT Probe V.S. a stock 89 GT Stang at the track and the Stang won 15.1 to 15.2. And to add on to the subject of 93-97 Probes with turbos, I have heard them go into the 13's with just a turbo.

86 Grand Marqui 06-27-2002 11:20 PM

Very Possible he runs that time. What was the stock HP versus what he has now?U can do Very Little to "these" types of vehicles and get results. I have an 86 Grand Marqui 4 door monster.It ran good and with no tuning at all ran a 17.96.I did a Very good tune up. Added an MSD Coil.TPS adjustment, No EGR.Timing at 12,160 Thermostat.Polished Stock TB inside and thats about it. So, what did I really do? Not much, Went a 16.60. Then I went to an elec Fan and got rid of that clutch crap.Disconnected the Hot Water Lines to the TB.Added a Home Made Cold Air system but stayed with a Good Air Filter,NON K/N.A few more little odds and ends, BUT NO internal engine work. Now REMEMBER, this IS a 5.0 but NOT a Mustang Motor. IF that probe Gave me the hit and or I stole him out of the hole,who knows?,LOL. PS, I have a Race weight of 4,200, so thats next.btw- I have a 2.193 60'

Mach351C 06-28-2002 01:24 AM

this is great, this site has the most honest people. If you go to any other site's for some reason they say that the probe can do like 12's. I dont believe that, but some people do. this site is great they dont talk the numbers way down.

LT1 Z28 06-28-2002 08:41 AM

I agree, the people on this boards are very mature and more fun to talk to. I find it much better than Stangnet anyway.

FivepointOH 06-29-2002 12:31 AM

I saw this guy again on wednesday..... he said if I gave him 2 cars he'd run me for $50. I told him it's on some other nite(I was drinking a lot) so we'll see what happens.

1BAD89 06-30-2002 12:04 AM

Quote:

93 Probe GT 5spd stock except for exhaust and clutch. He said it runs 14.8's??
I think that 14.8 is not realistic, sorry but I just don't see it happening. I've been seeing this alot lately, "give me 3 cars and the move...$50" I'd laugh hardcore if someone said that to me.

Rev 06-30-2002 01:03 PM

1BAD89, I think you could give him half way down the 1330' and still beat him if you were on the bike.

Rev

86 Grand Marqui 06-30-2002 06:23 PM

Laugh Harcore? What does that mean? $50 is not enough,or r u 1 of those who think ALL races ,for some VERY strange reason need to b Head Up,?--Back 2 that in a Minute.Rev? Do u mean 660 Rolling,or 660 from a standstill? IF U meant rolling, The Bike would have to be a Mid 5 second Bike! If u meant from a standstill it would still need 2 b a Mid 9 Bike.Check the Math, u will see I am correct.Now, back to the 1st order of business. Y do u think(if u do) that all Races need to b Head-up? ALL cars r not the same ET so it is NOT possible for ALL races to b head-up,or is it the Money? If so, thats a diff thing, Even SLOW like I am,I dont race for only$50.PS: Y do I care about this thread? I will race NETHING! IF it is a Vehicle that can be driven on the Street I will Race it, meaning, Yes I would even Race John Force. Y ? Obviously I am not going 2 Race Head-up, but I am going to Win,lol! Racing is Math!

Rev 06-30-2002 06:32 PM

So you think the Probe does a 9 sec '660? I kinda doubt it. probably more like 11 seconds. The bike might run the 1/4 in that time, maybe?

Rev

lx mike 06-30-2002 07:29 PM

14.8 1/4 is a mid 9 second 660' time.



86 Grand Marquis: racing is math only when you know what the other guy will run.


you win everytime?? how do you figure your handicap?? by what they tell you it ran or you know what every car runs??

Rev 06-30-2002 07:48 PM

I personally doubt that the Probe can run a 14.8 1/4 or a 9.0 1/8. Be that as it may be, maybe 1BAD89's bike can only spot him down to the 330' and still win, LOL. After all, aren't Probes just Mazda MS6's with the Ford badges?

Rev

86 Grand Marqui 06-30-2002 08:45 PM

I never said I "Thought" a Probe did nething, Obviously I was saying,A 14.8 IS a Mid 9 660, thats a fact..... I was going by Time only, not Car.U r correct however that IF "A" car went a Low17, then an 11 660 is correct. So u r saying thats what they run. I disagree,but no biggy.... I agree 100% with u LX about what U said. U r correct I am VERY accurate in determining ET. I am VERY good in Math and I have 20 Years of Racing under my belt,which helps in determining ET. I look at various factors,,,Exhaust,Tires,The "Sound" of the Vehicle, The "Look"of it,Suspension and a few other things. Just by that I can get VERY close to what it runs WITHOUT Nitrous. IF I happen to know how much Spray u use, that is probably the Biggest Help.I have raced everything from a 23 sec Truck to a 7 sec Motorcycle and have NEVER lost a "Money" Race. I agree Luck is a factor.Now a days I assume EVERY Vehicle that races has Spray, If not Oh well,LOL!PS: I don't use Spray,but 1 day I will hook up a Modest 100Hp kit and Play.

FivepointOH 06-30-2002 09:18 PM

You've never lost a race before in your 16.6 car? No offense but that sounds like bs to me...

86 Grand Marqui 06-30-2002 10:06 PM

NO offense taken. U dont know me,so how do u know I am being honest, U r correct. I am faster than 16.6(Now)hehe. Not a threat to a Mustang,(yet),hehe. How can I be?NO internal Engine Mods,NO Spray and 4,200 pounds.So at the moment I wouldnt run a Mustang Head-up. The optimum phrase being Head-up.But Yes, I have won EVERY (Money) Race.Is it my fault they ALL gave me what I asked? Is it my fault they Gave me to much?To me Racing is MONEY! Yes it is Fun to win and all that, But I am 34 so Its not a Pride thing to me.And yes age has alot to do with it. Its seems most younger peeps want to Brag and be Gorillas. Thats not my thing. I walk up to NE1 and ask if they wanna Race and this is what I need from U. If they agree, THEY LOSE! If they dont wanna give me what I need, NO prob.Simple as that.Well, let me make it clear. I generally dont walk up to 7 sec cars and ask to Race,(but I have,hehe)."MOST think just Bcuz they run 11's or whatever they MUST win". thats where I get them.I know what u r thinking(whomever is reading this,noone in particular)Y would a Guy want to Race a Slow *** Car? Well, a few reasons..1.I Dont tell them I want to bet some Low amount,like $50 and 2. They THINK they will win, no matter what.


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