'98 Z28 LS1

My friend's dad has a '98 Camaro Z28 T-tops with the LS1 engine and manual tranny. It is 100% stock, he's not into racing at all so I don't know how good he can drive. He has seen my car a few times around and really likes and he wants to see if he can beat me. He is a really big guy, about 300-325 lbs.

I think he's going to beat me. I don't know exactly what my car runs but I don't think it can take an LS1, maybe an LT1. I've never raced either. What do you guys think? Any advice if I do end up racing him?

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'69 Coupe with 351W
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Edelbrock Performer-RPM intake manifold, Edelbrock Performer-RPM cam, Edelbrock lifters, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Accel coil, Moroso Blue-Max spark plug wires, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, Edelbrock double roller timing chain, Edelbrock valve springs, Flex fan, C4, Lakewood traction bars, 3:1 open rear-9" 3.89:1 posi coming this summer
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[fastang]

My friend has a bone stock 00 Z28 with the LS1 and he only ran a 13.8 so I think you can take him, especialy if you get a good launch, good luck.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

[EZRIDN]

i've seen a stock, STOCK lS1 (M6) 98 Z28 run 13.38 @ 109!

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'86 GT.
Gears & Flows

[fastang]

My friends is an A4.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

[GONZO99TA]

race him!
what do you have to lose? it's all for fun. you never know you might win, that 6 spd is a b**ch to launch if you don't practice.

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99 30th annv. Trans am
79 Trans am black se

[90dpscoupe]

You would need a good launch, like fastang said, and get the 3.89 posi, and put some dragradials on but you might need a stall cvrtr.

Ah heck just race him, i raced a bone stock 99t/a that went 13.6 @104 but someone that cant drive real great could be around 13.8 14.0, skill has alot to do with it, i also seen a guy go stock 13.1 @106 with good traction.



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90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 97.80
Best 60': 2.0047

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

[SaleenGTS]

With him weighing that much, I'd say he is a low 14 sec car, that is if he doesn't know how to drive....high 13's if he does.

GO FOR IT!!!
Nobody ever wins'em all

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1993 Cobra #1926

Bassani Full lengths,Bassani short X-pipe, American thunder Cat back, 3.55's. More to come...

[FivepointOH]

Don't forget with him weighing that much it will be easier for him to launch the car....

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92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

[smooth]

well what is your raceweight? i would guess his to be 3700-3800. have you ran at the track before?

[Mean50]

My best friend has a 99 Z28 and it is mean. The only thing that has beat it with me driving was a new C5, but that was b/c of traction. All I know is that you better get that Z off the line or it will be over from the beginning b/c there is no playing catch up with those cars.


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bored to 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Systemax II heads, intake, cam package, 70 mm throttle body and mass air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears, and Oh yeah, the 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit.

[dinomite]

Originally posted by 90dpscoupe:
You would need a good launch, like fastang said, and get the 3.89 posi, and put some dragradials on but you might need a stall cvrtr.

Ah heck just race him, i raced a bone stock 99t/a that went 13.6 @104 but someone that cant drive real great could be around 13.8 14.0, skill has alot to do with it, i also seen a guy go stock 13.1 @106 with good traction.

Skill definently has a LOT to do with it. I raced a kid in my area who, the second car that his parents bought him, has a manual 91 lx w/ 3.73 and i was right on his bumper up to 60 in my STOCK 90 convert AOD w/ the stock 2.73! Needless to say he is a horrible driver.

[Fostang]

go for it!!! Score one for us the drivers of old stangs. Show the new ones we can hang also!!!My money is on you as long as you get some traction(change tires!!)...wider is better. Seems to me like you have a very nice setup their. It should be in the mid to high 13's. Maybe lower?? Good Luck!!! Remember FORD=FAST ON RACE DAY!!!

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Hey, thanks for all the responses guys, keep 'em coming! This site rocks!

This guy doesn't live in town, but he comes here pretty often because always comes to the home basketball games at my high school because his son plays on the team with me.

90dpscoupe- I would love to get those 3.89s now but I have to wait 3 or 4 more months! Drag radials are probably out of the question because it is a daily driven car in all weather (except bad snow/ice), and I'm on gravel roads/highways every once in awhile.

smooth- My raceweight probably isn't 3700 or 3800 at all, '69 Coupe with a 200 cid and a 3-spd manual weigh 2850. So my car is probably like 3300 maybe? This summer after I do the rear end swap and before I take it to the track I will have it weighed, but I have never taken it to the strip. Closest one is about 45 minutes away.

Fostang- I have good tires, Goodrich Radial T/As, and they are wider than crap, 295/50/15s, but they still just spin wildly, until I hit about 45 mph, then they catch and you get thrown back in your seat. I don't know about 13.5s-13.9s, I was guessing around 14.0-14.5 with the gears. I know when I get those Performer RPM heads (when, I don't know) I will definitely be mid 13s.

Well, if I hear he is coming down I will tell him to be sure he brings the Z and be ready for a run.

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Edelbrock Performer-RPM intake manifold, Edelbrock Performer-RPM cam, Edelbrock lifters, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Accel coil, Moroso Blue-Max spark plug wires, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, Edelbrock double roller timing chain, Edelbrock valve springs, Flex fan, C4, Lakewood traction bars, 3:1 open rear-9" 3.89:1 posi coming this summer
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[smooth]

Originally posted by FivepointOH:
Don't forget with him weighing that much it will be easier for him to launch the car....

nah all that extra weight from his big fat *** is exactly where he doesn't want it-over the left and to the front. a carload of people would help him launch but he is just hindering weight transfer.

So would 13.5s to 13.9s be realistic and what would I have to do (CHEAP) to get that, or is 14.0 to 14.5 what I should expect? Remember, I have the stock heads and I think they are holding me back quite a bit. I will have the 3.89s and posi by the time I take it to the strip though. Thanks.

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Edelbrock Performer-RPM intake manifold, Edelbrock Performer-RPM cam, Edelbrock lifters, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Accel coil, Moroso Blue-Max spark plug wires, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, Edelbrock double roller timing chain, Edelbrock valve springs, Flex fan, C4, Lakewood traction bars, 3:1 open rear-9" 3.89:1 posi coming this summer
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[Lizard King]

That LS1 will below 13.5,... but it's all fun, so race him!

So is it possible for me to break 14.0? Or not? If you don't think it is possible for me, what could I do that's cheap and fairly easy (nothing internal on the engine) that could get me 13.999? Like I said, I will have the 3.89s, so gears aren't a problem. I was thinking about removing the front sway bar, that would help off the line. Lower rear tire pressure (maybe raise front to decrease rolling resistance?), take off air cleaner, empty the trunk, powerstall a little, won't need much with 3.89s, shift at 5500...that's all I can think of. With my mods and that stuff, will I break 14.0? TIA

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Edelbrock Performer-RPM intake manifold, Edelbrock Performer-RPM cam, Edelbrock lifters, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Accel coil, Moroso Blue-Max spark plug wires, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, Edelbrock double roller timing chain, Edelbrock valve springs, Flex fan, C4, Lakewood traction bars, 3:1 open rear-9" 3.89:1 posi coming this summer
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[86LX5liter]

I think, ifyou practice your launch, and get a good one, you will break 13.9. My guess is with good traction, and solid driving that car could go 13.5 now if the race weight is indeed 3300. I woulddefinitely say you have roughly 300 flywheel hp, maybe more. but that torque. Oh, what I would give for a 351.Go for it dude, if anything, if you lose, it will make you pursue upgrades even harder. I know with me that happens. Whenever I lose I look for ways to make my car faster. I am to the point where I want a charger!

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1.62 60'
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1981 GT

13.5!!?!??!??! Holy crap! Whoa...that's awesome. You know, I'm not sure about horsepower, my engine was 250 bhp before, stock 2-bbl carb/intake and all, the 4-bbl carb 351 was rated at 290 bhp, so with my mods I was actually thinking like 350 give or take 15. But what's the difference between brake hp and just hp? Anything? So what kind of torque would I be making? 2-bbl is rated at 335 stock, 4-bbl at 385, I gotta be at least 425 or so right? So about what are all these numbers at the rear wheel? Sorry there are so many questions guys. I am just kinda lost here. I was thinking I'm gonna be like 14.5 then some people tell me 13s and that surprised me.

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Edelbrock Performer-RPM intake manifold, Edelbrock Performer-RPM cam, Edelbrock lifters, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Accel coil, Moroso Blue-Max spark plug wires, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, Edelbrock double roller timing chain, Edelbrock valve springs, Flex fan, C4, Lakewood traction bars, 3:1 open rear-9" 3.89:1 posi coming this summer
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Oh, and as far as mods go 86LX5liter, once I get my rear end done, then all I want it those Performer RPM heads!!! I'm thinking that will open up my engine bigger than life!

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'69 Coupe with 351W
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Edelbrock Performer-RPM intake manifold, Edelbrock Performer-RPM cam, Edelbrock lifters, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Accel coil, Moroso Blue-Max spark plug wires, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, Edelbrock double roller timing chain, Edelbrock valve springs, Flex fan, C4, Lakewood traction bars, 3:1 open rear-9" 3.89:1 posi coming this summer
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