99-00 Lightning vs 94 Cobra

bigwhitecobra · 03-10-2001, 02:03 AM

Hey guys, I have a question for you. I raced a Lightning the other day when me and the wife were out, and I haven't really thought about til now. I know the new Lightnings are fast, and I really don't think I should have beat it, but I don't suspect driver error. This guy was a little older than me, by about 10-15 years. All Lightnings were automatics, so all he realyy had to do was hit the gas, and the truck does the rest. We started at a roll, say 20-35 mph(I wasn't looking), and we race for about half a mile or so. I beat him by about 3-4 car lengths, and he ony caught up because I got out of light speed. What are these things running stock? Figuring his was stock, and the small amount of mods to mine, is my car on steriods? As you can see in my sig, I have run a best of 13.4, but I know I wasn't running that then. Too many sloppy shifts. I've raced a few before, and they always got me. since thenthe only thing I have replaced is my clutch, and shifter, both of which are not power mods. Anyway, sorry I got long winded. Do you think I just caught him on an off day?

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

91LX2Bfast · 03-12-2001, 09:38 AM

Stock they run any where from 13.7-14.0 (at least thats what I see on www.F150online. But they have very mild shifts and a mild computer program from the factory. Usually, w/ only a chip and air intake, they can go 13.1-3 all day.

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1997 Thunderbird 4.6L: Dynomax exhaust, Mustang intake tube, SVT Lightning 80mm MAF, Accufab MAF adapter, 7" Auto-physics powerstack filter, ram air, B&M 24,000GVW trans cooler, Custom chip, FMS 9mm wires, many more to come...

No Longer own: 91 LX 5.0L 5 spd Red w/ black interior
2 chamber flowmasters, Bassani off-road X-pipe, MAC cold air induction, Kirban short throw, Heavy duty 3 core radiator, FMS 3:73's, Timing bump to 14 degrees, SRP billet racing pedals, Kenwood sound system

sedanman · 03-12-2001, 10:58 AM

I raced a 99-00 going down the road and I pulled from him like a pull away from a 96-98 cobra (about 2 cars from 60-mid through 4th). If you held him off like that he either dosn't have a strong one or your car was pulling harder than the 101 trap speed indicates.

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1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies, etc...
Best ET 13.5 (2.15 60ft)
Best MPH 103.9
On semi-bald street tires
New mods! electric fan, nitto drag radials, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5

Unit 5302 · 03-12-2001, 11:59 AM

I think Dan was saying his lightning has been running real low 14's from the factory.

My friend said he pulled dead even with one on the freeway in his stock (bored) 306 87GT.

GONZO99TA · 03-12-2001, 12:08 PM

you mentioned that you raced for a 1/2 mile or so? how is the top end on a lightning? i'm figuring you were hitting 130+mph by the end of the race. takes alot to get something with the aerodynamics of a brick to move at those speeds.
on a slightly differant topic did anyone see the test of the new lightning on car and driver tv. they ran that thing to a 13.8@104!
that is one nice truck. make an extended cab and i might consider buying one.

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99 30th annv. Trans am
79 Trans am black se

bigwhitecobra · 03-12-2001, 03:31 PM

I would like to tell you what the top speed was, but after hitting 100, I thought my attention should be diverted to the road. I would suspect that I was in the 135-140 range. I just thought they should have been faster stock.
Oh, and on my 13.4 run, I was running slicks, and I bogged at the line. Had a few bad shifts, so that should(?) account for it. Anyway, I'll be hitting a 1/4 mile track soon enough, so maybe I can get some real "street trim" numbers.

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

03-13-2001, 08:56 AM

My buddy has a '01 Lightning and that thing has pretty awesome top-end for a truck. I walked a '00 L on the highway with my car. He was acting like he was going to walk me, not so.

Unit 5302 · 03-13-2001, 11:13 AM

From what I was hearing the 2001 models got another 20-25hp over the 2000's up to like 385. Damn, why is it so hard for Ford to put power into the Cobra but they have a never ending desire to supe up the F-150?

bigwhitecobra · 03-13-2001, 11:54 AM

Well, if they put that kind of power into the Cobra, first of all, I'd buy one or two, second, what would Chevy have to compete with it? The 'Vette doesn't count!

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

03-13-2001, 06:10 PM

Yeah they have like 385. Those trucks are awesome. Everything about it is awesome. Handles, looks sweet, rides good, and as I said before that thing has unbelievable top-end.

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88GT stock shortblock, ported GT-40 iron heads, Edlebrock Performer intake, 24# inj, Pro-M 75mm Bullet MAM, 3.73, hurst short throw, F-303, electric fan, alum rad, FMS HD clutch, R134a ac conversion, 70mm TB , and some other stuff I probably forgot, best run so far on ET streets is 13.02@106 with a 1.87 60ft Only been to the track once still alot more tuning to do and need more driving experience.(Full body weight GT, full tank of gas, and sway bars connected, gonna disconnect sway bars and dip

Fostang · 03-13-2001, 11:34 PM

I wana race one now I haven't raced a soul in a month

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67'fastback- Edelbrock carb, intake, cam, valve springs. Road lifters, Comp Cam rocker arms, windage tray, cerama coated headers, dual flows with H-pipe, modded c-4, tci stall converter, perma cool electric fan, aluminum water pump, griffen aluminum radiator, accel 8.8 cable, wide cap distriburator, magnetic pick up, manley valves, v-matic hurst shifter, edelbrock performer nitrous, carter electric fuel pump, ignitor coil, solid motor mounts, magna racing suspension, poly urathane bushings, und

03-10-2001, 02:03 AM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	99-00 Lightning vs 94 Cobra Hey guys, I have a question for you. I raced a Lightning the other day when me and the wife were out, and I haven't really thought about til now. I know the new Lightnings are fast, and I really don't think I should have beat it, but I don't suspect driver error. This guy was a little older than me, by about 10-15 years. All Lightnings were automatics, so all he realyy had to do was hit the gas, and the truck does the rest. We started at a roll, say 20-35 mph(I wasn't looking), and we race for about half a mile or so. I beat him by about 3-4 car lengths, and he ony caught up because I got out of light speed. What are these things running stock? Figuring his was stock, and the small amount of mods to mine, is my car on steriods? As you can see in my sig, I have run a best of 13.4, but I know I wasn't running that then. Too many sloppy shifts. I've raced a few before, and they always got me. since thenthe only thing I have replaced is my clutch, and shifter, both of which are not power mods. Anyway, sorry I got long winded. Do you think I just caught him on an off day? ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

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03-12-2001, 09:38 AM	#2
91LX2Bfast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Warrington, PA Posts: 694	Stock they run any where from 13.7-14.0 (at least thats what I see on www.F150online. But they have very mild shifts and a mild computer program from the factory. Usually, w/ only a chip and air intake, they can go 13.1-3 all day. ------------------ 1997 Thunderbird 4.6L: Dynomax exhaust, Mustang intake tube, SVT Lightning 80mm MAF, Accufab MAF adapter, 7" Auto-physics powerstack filter, ram air, B&M 24,000GVW trans cooler, Custom chip, FMS 9mm wires, many more to come... No Longer own: 91 LX 5.0L 5 spd Red w/ black interior 2 chamber flowmasters, Bassani off-road X-pipe, MAC cold air induction, Kirban short throw, Heavy duty 3 core radiator, FMS 3:73's, Timing bump to 14 degrees, SRP billet racing pedals, Kenwood sound system

03-12-2001, 10:58 AM	#3
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	I raced a 99-00 going down the road and I pulled from him like a pull away from a 96-98 cobra (about 2 cars from 60-mid through 4th). If you held him off like that he either dosn't have a strong one or your car was pulling harder than the 101 trap speed indicates. ------------------ 1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies, etc... Best ET 13.5 (2.15 60ft) Best MPH 103.9 On semi-bald street tires New mods! electric fan, nitto drag radials, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5

03-12-2001, 11:59 AM	#4
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I think Dan was saying his lightning has been running real low 14's from the factory. My friend said he pulled dead even with one on the freeway in his stock (bored) 306 87GT.

03-12-2001, 12:08 PM	#5
GONZO99TA Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Great Falls, MT Posts: 144	you mentioned that you raced for a 1/2 mile or so? how is the top end on a lightning? i'm figuring you were hitting 130+mph by the end of the race. takes alot to get something with the aerodynamics of a brick to move at those speeds. on a slightly differant topic did anyone see the test of the new lightning on car and driver tv. they ran that thing to a 13.8@104! that is one nice truck. make an extended cab and i might consider buying one. ------------------ 99 30th annv. Trans am 79 Trans am black se

03-12-2001, 03:31 PM	#6
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	I would like to tell you what the top speed was, but after hitting 100, I thought my attention should be diverted to the road. I would suspect that I was in the 135-140 range. I just thought they should have been faster stock. Oh, and on my 13.4 run, I was running slicks, and I bogged at the line. Had a few bad shifts, so that should(?) account for it. Anyway, I'll be hitting a 1/4 mile track soon enough, so maybe I can get some real "street trim" numbers. ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

03-13-2001, 08:56 AM	#7
88GT5.013.02 Guest Posts: n/a	My buddy has a '01 Lightning and that thing has pretty awesome top-end for a truck. I walked a '00 L on the highway with my car. He was acting like he was going to walk me, not so.

03-13-2001, 11:13 AM	#8
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	From what I was hearing the 2001 models got another 20-25hp over the 2000's up to like 385. Damn, why is it so hard for Ford to put power into the Cobra but they have a never ending desire to supe up the F-150?

03-13-2001, 11:54 AM	#9
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Well, if they put that kind of power into the Cobra, first of all, I'd buy one or two, second, what would Chevy have to compete with it? The 'Vette doesn't count! ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

03-13-2001, 06:10 PM	#10
88GT5.013.02 Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah they have like 385. Those trucks are awesome. Everything about it is awesome. Handles, looks sweet, rides good, and as I said before that thing has unbelievable top-end. ------------------ 88GT stock shortblock, ported GT-40 iron heads, Edlebrock Performer intake, 24# inj, Pro-M 75mm Bullet MAM, 3.73, hurst short throw, F-303, electric fan, alum rad, FMS HD clutch, R134a ac conversion, 70mm TB , and some other stuff I probably forgot, best run so far on ET streets is 13.02@106 with a 1.87 60ft Only been to the track once still alot more tuning to do and need more driving experience.(Full body weight GT, full tank of gas, and sway bars connected, gonna disconnect sway bars and dip

03-13-2001, 11:34 PM	#11
Fostang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 599	I wana race one now I haven't raced a soul in a month . ------------------ 67'fastback- Edelbrock carb, intake, cam, valve springs. Road lifters, Comp Cam rocker arms, windage tray, cerama coated headers, dual flows with H-pipe, modded c-4, tci stall converter, perma cool electric fan, aluminum water pump, griffen aluminum radiator, accel 8.8 cable, wide cap distriburator, magnetic pick up, manley valves, v-matic hurst shifter, edelbrock performer nitrous, carter electric fuel pump, ignitor coil, solid motor mounts, magna racing suspension, poly urathane bushings, und