99GT vs. 2000 Lightning
 

ok, i raced a lightning the otherday , it was around the 2000 or 2001? bodystyle. the guy ate me up and spit me out. first we raced from a stoplight then again from around a 30mph roll, i have a 99gt auto, k&n filter and flowmasters, what should my car and his lightning be running in the 1/4 , and what kinda mods can have me running lightning fast?(har har !)

supercharger...it's all in the forced induction. Either that, or a hell of a lot of NO2. Wait...put the two together *drool*:D

Put the two together wrong... *BOOM*

Of course he killed you. A 99 Gt auto runs what like 15 flat?

Your mods would add little to no increase. Why do people list a K and N filter as a mod? It does nothing! Just replacing the muffler and not the whole piping system would do little as well.

ummm sorry i listed what has been done to the car so you had a better idea of its capablity? moron

Ignore him, yeh I would say Supercharge your car if you want to go lighting fast. ;) I love the Lightings.... don't they run mid-high 13's stock? (I may be really wrong though)

§am.

yeah mach1 i think your right about there 1/4 mile times, sometimes i guess i dont realize how fast that second faster in the 1/4 actually equates to, i couldnt even hang with the guy on the street he was gone already , i think my first real mods will be 4.10's and a shift kit, then after that sometime down the road when i get some cash ill look to supercharge

Why Ignore me?

Why call me a Moron?

You say to give better info on the car. Ok, I just said that those mods do NOTHING to make it different from stock. You MAYBE gained 1 HP. All it did was make it louder.

Don't Lightnings have like 375hp? They are easy to mod Via a Chip to increase boost. Easy to get 450+ with minor upgrades. Which would put it low 13's High 12's with decent tires, which no offence is totally out of your range.

That is like you racing a Minivan with 8 people in it.....

A pulley change increases boost, not a chip. Try and remember, not eveyone knows a K&N does virtually nothing on a stock motor. When I initially listed my mods when I joined this site, I listed my fuel pump, I guess that's about right with listing a K&N, which I also happen to have:D.

Lightnings launch hard and run anywhere from low/mid 13's to low 14's stock. All depends on the weather and altitude.

cause your being a PITA. Nobody likes a flaming newbie.

380, but you gotta remember it's in a sled. most are mid 13 to 14 flat trucks depending on driver and weather.

A chip won't increase boost. You have to swap pulleys

gonna take more than one or two minor upgrades to get a extra 70hp.

Some people race just for fun...sometimes you get lucky. Hell I've raced a 5.0 in my 2.3 LX......and won!!!.......TWICE!!!


OH BTW, a auto 99+ GT will run somewhere in the low-mid 14's.

ok tireburner, u said a stock 99 gt auto will do low-mid 14's , and a lightning can do low 14's as well, so it IS possible to take one with a few minor mods. thats the impression i get . what will i be lookin at after 4.10's and a shift kit(and yes i know they wont add HP) but hopefully that will bump me up and take me out of the hole quicker? also i hear that cold air kits are a waste, yet so many people put them on

That's what I hear as well. I think most people that put them on either believe they will add big hp gains (kinda like stickers do;) ) or purchased them for their looks. I hear they dress up an engine fairly well. And here is my endorsement: if you got the time and money, go with a Vortech with aftercooler. If not, don't worry about it, plenty of other things you can do. But with a supercharger, you'll have the power to back up your bad ***** sounding Flowmaster system! Good luck and have fun:D

"OH BTW, a auto 99+ GT will run somewhere in the low-mid 14's."

HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHH

Enough said, you are a total moron if you think that hahahah. What does a Stock manual 99+gt run? 13's?

Yes I meant a Pulley. I owned a GTP so i know that Superchargers need pulley swaps to up the boost, momentary lapse.

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/lightning.htm

Diablo chip, 8 pound pulley, Mac cold air chip.

Add's 84+ hp for under 580.00

That not minor upgrades?

You're basing your quote on an advertisement?

Its says "dyno-tuned" combination... every single vehicle is different... how the heck can you have a "dyno-tuned" combo off-the-shelf? Its a contradiction in terms.

Now maybe if you actually spent the money and the time to have a real "dyno tuned" chip you might pick up some power with the 8lb pulley...

Don't get me started on cold air kits...

With drag radials, there have been some 13.9 time slips around for 99+ manual GTs.

I could easily buy into a mid 14 second auto. Common? No Possible? Yes

High 12's isn't out of range for ANYONE. It's just a matter of how much money he wants to spend.

Oh and by the way Mr. Supeg , there is a guy at my track that has a 2000 GT 5-speed. He has cold air induction, and sticky tires (Hoosier street legal's) and he runs 13.1's @103!! Not too bad for a GT with tires and a CAI huh? (of course he ditches the passenger seat, spare, etc., leaves the line at 5k, and power shifts the thing like a maniac :D )

supeg your a retard. You come here flaming as a newbie quoting magazine numbers. i will gaurantee Tireburner knows ALOT more than you do.

96-98 GT's run like 15's stock because these were the 215hp versions. The 99+ one make 260 with better heads and cams. There are a few people on here that run low 14's all day long on 99+ GT's. Hell Lizard King in a bone stock 5 spd ran high 13's.

Im sure StoplightWarrior will tell you about his 99GT auto.

Again dont come to a site and start running your mouth like your a know it all when your a newbie and just need to sit back and read some threads and see what real people have ran, not what magazines tell you.

And by the way, my 97 GT 5speed is a high 14 car, stock. Period.:D

Must have been a Wednesday car;)

I am a Newbie cause I havent spent 2 years on this site? Wow thats funny.

We are not talking about factory Freaks here. 99+gt's Auto run about 15 flat. Manual about Mid 14's. Face it.

No use arguing none of you own 99+gt's cept for that one guy, you guys are doing the SAME thing I am, stating an opinion. But yet I am the NOOB beacuse I have not been here for more then a year?

Fucken morons.

No, you are a newbie because this is your 11th post, and you obviously have little to no experience with the cars you are discussing. We've all seen the signs, so you can call us names and hide behind some secret knowledge, but it'd be easier if you just get over it and quiet down.

And you should be looking at timeslips for the GT's, because I've seen the faster times being quoted here on less than stellar tracks.

Hehe... You're funny my friend...

Lets see, I can't state facts because I don't own a 99+ GT...

Hmmm, I could never have worked on late model modulars...
I could never have dynoed them...
I could never have driven them on the track...

I have PERSONALLY seen several BONE stock 99+ GTs dip into the 13s with stock size drag radials...
Can they ALL be factory freaks?

The key more than anything is DRIVING.... will an average driver hit mid 14s with a stock GT?
Yes.
Can someone who knows what they are doing dip into the 13s? Yes

If you want facts, I would suggest you spend some time looking at the Modular FAQ and less time looking at advertisements.

supeg, no your not a newbie...your a TROLL!!!. You come on here flaming the hell out of a guy because he listed a K&N and Flows as mods. You need to lightin the hell up.

Oh about those track times you are DEAD wrong. If you think a 260hp Mustang GT 5-speed is gonna run a 14.5 your a frickin MORON. I mean, come on, a fox body runs a low-mid 14 with 225hp. You need to wake up and get a clue what your talking about.

Have you ever even been to the track???(Playing GT3 doesn't count) I suggest you go, actully watch or hell maybe even fire up your Civic and make a few 17 second passes.

Dude your getting you info from ads, are you brain dead? Hell if I went by ads my K&N would add 20hp:rolleyes:

A second gen Lightning runs a from a mid-13 with a good drive to a 14 flat with a not so good driver. So yes it your a killer driver you could take a lighting in mildly modded GT.

Yes you can get 13's out off a PI GT 5-speed. I've seen many run in the 13's with mild mods (H-pipe). And I've seen a good number run high 13's with free mods and killer drivers.

MustangMom2K has run a 13.94 in her mildy modded GT auto. Stoplight Warriors auto GT ran a 14.4 with a 2.3 60-foot when it was stock. Lizard king was ripping 13.77's in his stock 99 GT 5-speed. Need I go on or are you belittled enough already?

Have a nice day:)

And why can't a K+N be considered a mod? Did cars come stock with K+N filters? I didnt think so. Sure it doesnt add much if anything but it isnt stock so that counts as a mod in my book.

Aaah, damn! I was just about to post that I got my Viper up to 264mph, and all I did was put a K&N and Turbos and stuff... wait, K&N doesn't count anyway.;)

Tireburner and Midniteblu. One of you guys got to change your avatar or from here on out, i will just assume you are brothers! Get the point!:D haha

"Oh about those track times you are DEAD wrong. If you think a 260hp Mustang GT 5-speed is gonna run a 14.5 your a frickin MORON. I mean, come on, a fox body runs a low-mid 14 with 225hp. You need to wake up and get a clue what your talking about."

Maybe you need a lesson in the Magic of Power/Weight ratio?

Idiot. Maybe you can also tell me where I said a gt cannot do under 14.5 seconds stock? I said It will not hit 13's. Unless it is a Factory Freak you ****. Read my posts and comprehend you fuken moron.

No, I do not go by adds in my info. It is common knowledge about the HP increases on Lightning by basic upgrades. Go do some reading then open your mouth ok? I posted the link to try to feed morons like you some info.

I do not own a Civic, or any Import. What gives you that Idea. In fact I own Two fords.

A 2001 Escape SUV and a 1973 Mustang Mach 1.

Funny how fags like you think cause I say that the guy can expect his AUTO 1999 Mustang GT to run around 15 flat, that I hate Domestics?

Jesus, Some of you really need lives, and should maybe visit other boards.

Did he have a chance against a LIGHTING in a Stock 1999 AUTO GT. NONE, Not a chance in hell.

Don't blame me.......Just try a hit off this ****.....I got it from Joe...good stuff.


:D :D :D

You said a 5-speed averaged a 14.5.....a 99+ GT 5-speed averages around a 14 flat in the real world. And a auto 99+ GT does not run a 15 flat....it runs more like a 14.5. Good drivers can get a high 13 out of a 5-speed and a 14.3 or so out of a auto. A new GT that runs 13's with a good driver isn't a factory freak. I've seen many do it.

While second gen Lightings are easy to tweek. A chip, a pulley, and CAI it's gonna net "84+" hp. That's a ad, the info is gonna be fluffed up a bit to sell you their products.

That statement was directed simply to piss you off:)

GT auto's don't run 15 flats........your wrong.

I have a nice life, IMO. And why visit other boards?......this is the best Mustant web-site in the world...just ask Dan McClain.:)

I never said he did.......I mearnly corrected you when you quoted the wrong ET for his car. I said a well driven 5-speed GT could take a poorly driven Lightning.


Where do you get the idea that a 99+ GT auto runs a 15 flat? Do you live at 10K feet? Did you see some idiot spin the tires all the way down the track and run that? How did this dulision come to reside in your brain?:confused:

ya know, i tried to start a thread to learn some facts about my car and others, and every thread ends up a flame war , every thread on every forum turns to this lately , immature self-centered people who "stick with there opinions" even when there proved wrong with facts , its getting really old, i know IM tired of it

Haha, gotta laugh at that one...atleast they're not picking on my stupidity...oh crap, diggin my hole

Am I the only one who thinks "this is not cbring" has a new user name?

Hmmm, TINC hasn't been around in a while....

Makes you think...

There isn't any point to this thread anymore...It's turned into one big pissing contest...

Where I live

99+GT's run 14.5-14.6
99+ auto's run 14.8-15.0

Maybe Supeg lives at a high altitude like I do.

Well I am glad he is here. He is giving everyone something to talk about. Like him or dis like him, people are posting more which is the point. So post away.

Re: 99GT vs. 2000 Lightning
 

2 questions..
1. what were you thinking?
2.again, what were you thinking?

:rolleyes: kids..;)

Re: Re: 99GT vs. 2000 Lightning
 

he MADE me do it! i was driving on a road when he saw me at an intersection . he turned the same way i was going when he saw me then and started to stalk me . he was giving me the Gas and pull-away , back and forth, so we first went at it from about 30mph , then we caught a redlight and went at it again , then i turned onto a highway and he STILL followed me on to it and waxed my *** up and down it. trust me..i didnt start with him , i just took the bait

"i just took the bait"

Sucker!
:D

I know, if you look at the back of a Car and Driver magazine, you'll see that the Mustang GT is quoted as running 15.1 in the quarter. :)

Of course you could use the arguement that he lives at higher attitude, but you should quote car as running "X" time because obviously it will artificially squew the times. And this guy is sticking to firmly to his "15.0" for me to think this.

Re: Re: Re: 99GT vs. 2000 Lightning
 

kid, you control the car. how new are you to this game? anything wearing a SVT badge, will pull like a mutha on anything lighter than a SS or a zo6 or a reel heavily modded fox, its a factory race car, an if your gonna race you better be aware of the high power monsters that'll eat you up with lil or no mods..let alone somthin that comes standard with a supercharger. never EVER get sucked into a race. when that happens you let the other guy determine the stakes regardless if you know what they are. **** happens when you are not in 100 percent control of the situation at all times..do i pick on z06's? or vipers(hell even a modded fox)..no i know my limits, an i know what my car is capable of doing. grow some stones an have the courage to walk away from an invitation to disaster...unless your prepared to accept the consequneces. trust me, you an your car will survive a whole lot longer.

0h n0 5.0 not everything from SVT is the **** when it comes to speed. Focus and Contour.

The Lighting hauls *** for a 4500 truck, but it's not extra special fast(expectly off the line, they are the ***** to launch). I think I 99+ GT with mild mods could take one.

I have never seen a lightning get out of the 14's stock at my local track. Not even on slicks.

quite true, it is a truck an las time i checked trucks weren't built to haul ***, jus gear. but most of the new SVT's cars with v8's do..I rembered that there was also a taurus, contour an a focus after i had posted.. (rice burners IMO) but none the less nice lookin cars. my whole shpeal was about jus bein a man an takin responsibility for yer actions, if this kid gets suckered into too many races, he's gonna wreck that pretty car eventually or worse.

Blah Blah Blah Blah...... same old story:o Arguments that cant really be solved. I have no idea what a stock 99gt is going to do so I am not going to post any numbers for it.

I own a 99 Lightning with a 4# pulley, Diablo chip, JBA headers along with a custom exhaust catback, and a cone K&N yes that is a modification. I dont know why you cant call it a mod. Is it a modification to the stock form? YES My truck puts out around 425hp, and gets no grip. HEHE

Really unless you get a power adder I dont see you beating a modded Lightning. But you could be able to beat a stock lightning with just a couple of bolt-ons.

I think you might be a little closer to the lightning from a roll. As i notice in my truck. It just doesnt have as much go from higher speeds, But damn are they torque monsters!

hey i was gonna stay out of this because didnt want to sound like the ricer ,chimming in...
not just altitude but heat and more so humidity...where i live 99+GTs are gonna run 14.4-.6 and autos 14.7to 15.0


let me share this little story from last night with you...cold 50* low humidity 11:30 at night


GT Vs. 3.5L
after a couple runs insome light traffic mostly just getting out in front of traffic...we caught a light...he looks over grinnin...i point at him...we launch medium,both of us were spining alittle...side by side maybe i was 2 inches in front ...maybe...i could tell he had work done,flowmasters ,H pip,Xpipe (not sure) headers,and now im thinking gears,second,still side by side,third ,im like ****....but then it happened....


he ran out of gears,atleast the ones that make enough power,at about 5K for me in third i see him shift...he's in fourth...and i start inching up maybe ended up a 2 to 3 feet ahead,plus that open stretch of road was ending and were doing 113mph....dont usually like to go that fast on the street 80 is usually my max...but ,it was night and this stretch is pretty barron....


he didnt slow down like i did at the end and came up on some traffic....man i was saying...oh man ...oh man....but he worked it out...i was nervous for a second though...in street racing you have to not only think about yourself,but the other driver,what i mean is...do i get him all crazy so that even when were done he goes flying through traffic and cuts someone off or something like that...this guy was in his late 30's to mid 40's i shouldnt have expected that from him...but at one poit earlier he made a dramtic move to get in front of the car in front of him and that should have been a hint....another lesson learned


later that night a 98 style cobra thought he killed me...he shut it down at 50mph me 3 cars back....i had spun badly at the launch....while cruising looking for him i caught up with a guy i know from my friends body shop...600 HP ram air ....he didnt know it was me.....i managed to stay 5 cars back for a couple seconds....


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3.5 Litres of fury


... with the '98 body cobra.i wasnt sure he was gonna run...no revs,night time couldnt see, i wanted him to go but didnt want to look like a dick if i jump out and spin and im the only one...so he did go ,i found my self behind ,gave it to much gas and went up in smoke...he shut it down right away me 4 cars back or so...probablly thinking i showed that ricer ,not realizing i could give him a serious run....i was pissed

Don't feel bad.What happened is exactly what was supposed to take place.U should not beat that truck with your Mods.I only read the Initial Post,just so u know.:D

lol...prolly better off...:D

:D typeR:D . I Just read all of the posts and now I have a headache:( .I agree and disagree with various points that were mentioned.But 1 point that NOONE can say is correct is "How Fast U go is a matter of How much u spend".THE most wacked posts I see on this board are the ones that start like " I wasted a 77 corvette with my SVO" or the like. NO **** Buckwheat, U better destroy that car, GOOF,:D

dont say i didnt warn you

When did we start talking about Cobra's?:confused: He raced a Lighting.

There was never a SVT Taraus. There was a SHO, but never a SVT.

Well look past the fact that they are all made in America and move on to the point of how in the hell the are rice burners? Because they aren't V-8's? If that's the reason I think that's a very narrow and short sited view.

I think he was just kidding around. Either way I think your over reacting.

thank you! some of these guys are talking like im wrong for racing or giving my car a little gas every now and then...and if they think that why are they reading stories about street racing??!!! hypocrits i swear , does that guy think i actually thought i would beat the lightning? we werent "racing for pink slips" , it was a typical little street run , sometimes i think these forums are the biggest paradox's