Attn: N2O and Blower Guys......

bigwhitecobra · 09-10-2001, 01:33 PM

Last night I had something cross my mind that I want to try. I'm not sure if it will work, but if it does, then supercharging and Nitrous will never be the same.
Here's the idea: Take the ease of installation of N2O, with the reliability of a blower, and what do you get? Try a "bottled" Supercharger. You got it. Take a 25gal tank of compressed air, with all the hardware of a N2O kit, and you have a fully streetable, fully adjustable, fully controlable power adder. No more Nitrous explosions. No more expensive blower kits.

Sounds too good, huh? Well, I'm now very interrested in making a working model. It seems like it would be fairly simple to make, but I'm just speculating. Has anyone else tried this? If so, how did it work out?
Well, anyway, Just wanted to throw that out to see what everyone thought. Later.

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
1994 Cobra
'00 Focus ZTS- K&N drop in. 10.66@66mph 1/8mile

MonsterTrosity · 09-10-2001, 02:16 PM

I'm sure it's been done. I had that idea quite a while back. Question is, how do you get enough preasure into the intake? Beleive it or not, the preasure that exerts from a compressed tank isn't much depending on the diameter of the tube to the intake. Also, you are dealing with cold air compression, not hot air. So now you have to wory about water being shot into your intake. Big problems there. I'm not saying it can't be done, but whatever boost you got out of it probobly wouldn't last too long.

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MonsterTrosity

bigwhitecobra · 09-10-2001, 02:40 PM

I'm doing the math now, and I'm sure that it won't work out right. I'm still going to try to put a working model together. For me, anyway, I have to try something hands on before I dismiss it. Besides, how else are you gong to realize the pro's and con's of if? Heh heh, if it does work out, however, won't it be great? Later guys.

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
1994 Cobra
'00 Focus ZTS- K&N drop in. 10.66@66mph 1/8mile

exgmguy · 09-10-2001, 06:15 PM

That would be cool..........

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1988 Mustang GT
11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01)
11.6 @ 116 with a melted plug! (9/8/01)
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

See my car at: www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?179

bigwhitecobra · 09-20-2001, 12:52 PM

I've done the math, and it seems to work out that I can actually do it. All the flow #'s seem to match up.
Keep in mind that this is just a THEORY. I'll let you know how the working model.....uh, works.

I should have one sometime by the end of next week, 2 weeks at the latest. Well, later.

Snakeman · 09-20-2001, 06:37 PM

air, huh?
how many cu ft of air do you use in a run?
how big of a tank will you need?
how heavy??

try LOX (liquid O2), but then, you are more of a bomb...

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Rob Wegner
90LX

white00GT · 09-20-2001, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snakeman:
try LOX (liquid O2), but then, you are more of a bomb...

Hehe....you'll really be burning up the track then.

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2000 Mustang GT

Stang Runner · 09-21-2001, 02:34 PM

What you need is a like a diveing tank at very high psi!!!!It would cool the air down alot!!!

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14.28@103.0 on a G-Tech Engine: Steal Mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C
Drive Train: 3.55, World Class T-5,
NOW it is time for Real power STUFF I Have and will put on after I get everthing: Mac cold intake, 70MM TB, Valve covers (COOL ONES)255 Fuel pump NOS Dry 75HP.
Next to get: Rocker Arms,Cam,TFS Heads,Injectors 24,Holley Intake, What might I need???See It at <A HREF="http://www.computerconquest.com" TARGET=_blank>www.computerconq

09-10-2001, 01:33 PM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Attn: N2O and Blower Guys...... Last night I had something cross my mind that I want to try. I'm not sure if it will work, but if it does, then supercharging and Nitrous will never be the same. Here's the idea: Take the ease of installation of N2O, with the reliability of a blower, and what do you get? Try a "bottled" Supercharger. You got it. Take a 25gal tank of compressed air, with all the hardware of a N2O kit, and you have a fully streetable, fully adjustable, fully controlable power adder. No more Nitrous explosions. No more expensive blower kits. Sounds too good, huh? Well, I'm now very interrested in making a working model. It seems like it would be fairly simple to make, but I'm just speculating. Has anyone else tried this? If so, how did it work out? Well, anyway, Just wanted to throw that out to see what everyone thought. Later. ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 1994 Cobra '00 Focus ZTS- K&N drop in. 10.66@66mph 1/8mile

09-10-2001, 02:16 PM	#2
MonsterTrosity Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Fremont, Ca. Posts: 48	I'm sure it's been done. I had that idea quite a while back. Question is, how do you get enough preasure into the intake? Beleive it or not, the preasure that exerts from a compressed tank isn't much depending on the diameter of the tube to the intake. Also, you are dealing with cold air compression, not hot air. So now you have to wory about water being shot into your intake. Big problems there. I'm not saying it can't be done, but whatever boost you got out of it probobly wouldn't last too long. ------------------ MonsterTrosity

09-10-2001, 02:40 PM	#3
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	I'm doing the math now, and I'm sure that it won't work out right. I'm still going to try to put a working model together. For me, anyway, I have to try something hands on before I dismiss it. Besides, how else are you gong to realize the pro's and con's of if? Heh heh, if it does work out, however, won't it be great? Later guys. ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 1994 Cobra '00 Focus ZTS- K&N drop in. 10.66@66mph 1/8mile

09-10-2001, 06:15 PM	#4
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	That would be cool.......... ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01) 11.6 @ 116 with a melted plug! (9/8/01) 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer See my car at: www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?179

09-20-2001, 12:52 PM	#5
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	I've done the math, and it seems to work out that I can actually do it. All the flow #'s seem to match up. Keep in mind that this is just a THEORY. I'll let you know how the working model.....uh, works. I should have one sometime by the end of next week, 2 weeks at the latest. Well, later.

09-20-2001, 06:37 PM	#6
Snakeman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Grass Valley, CA, USA Posts: 1,389	air, huh? how many cu ft of air do you use in a run? how big of a tank will you need? how heavy?? try LOX (liquid O2), but then, you are more of a bomb... ------------------ Rob Wegner 90LX

09-21-2001, 02:34 PM	#8
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	What you need is a like a diveing tank at very high psi!!!!It would cool the air down alot!!! ------------------ 14.28@103.0 on a G-Tech Engine: Steal Mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C Drive Train: 3.55, World Class T-5, NOW it is time for Real power STUFF I Have and will put on after I get everthing: Mac cold intake, 70MM TB, Valve covers (COOL ONES)255 Fuel pump NOS Dry 75HP. Next to get: Rocker Arms,Cam,TFS Heads,Injectors 24,Holley Intake, What might I need???See It at <A HREF="http://www.computerconquest.com" TARGET=_blank>www.computerconq