[fiveohpatrol]

well Josh I am one of those hardcore ones who think they are both a joke, but you gotta think about who is looking at them

in this case, it is someone with the username stylez, which leads me to believe that he cares more about the looks of the car than the performance, which is fine if thats what you're into. The Saleen and the Cobra R, I believe, appeal to these people because between the 2 of them, they have everything that they want, a huge spoiler, and ugly overdone ground effects (body kit to you guys). Oh yeah, and they also don't perform as well as they should.

just my opinion