Do Mustangs Have What It Takes

[ace2600]

I dont have a mustang but plan on buying one before Christmas, a 95 GT to be exact. Anyway my goal is to have the fastest car in my (high) school by next year. When I tell people this they laugh and say Mustangs are not that fast, get a Firebird. Now I am starting to wonder can a I full fill my goal (there are no major modified cars except for some rice rocket, mainly the competetion is trucks, a bmw and LT-1s). I will probaly be able to spend 2-3 thousand on mods unless my business does good which then who knows.
So the question is can a Mustang (nothing below '94) do what I want (low 12s) with around 3,000 in mods.

Thanx
-Ace

[I hate Rice]

Hey I am also going for the fastest car in my high school but I have a new WS6 and a Z28 to contend with. From the competition you have a good chance at being the fastest in your school but low 12s is pushing it. They are 15 sec cars stock. Shoot for mid to low thirteens which may be achievable with NOS or ZEX. My .02. Also they look so much better than little birdies.

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97 Mustang GT Convertible
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1858
K&N filter
No silencer
Sidewinder 5000 Alarm

Gotta love Rice cuase they always travel in groups so you can embaress them in front of their buds.

[Unit 5302]

A real good driver can pull a 14 out of an SN95 5.0 stock.

I don't see you getting to low 12's with it unless you choose nitrous.

Now a 1994-1995 Cobra, that's another story altogether.

get the pony, you want have to re-build your engine, every year !if you take care of it gm has not had anything worth a crap since 1970 & ricer's are'nt much better i know from 40 year's of expeience get the pony.

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[exgmguy]

Low 12's for 3 grand?

3.73's installed 500 bucks
slicks and 15" wheels 500 bucks
150 hp nitrous kit 700 bucks
aftermarket heads 1000 bucks
aftermarket intake 500 bucks

There you go. Assuming it's a stick car, and you can install the rest of the stuff.

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1988 Mustang GT
11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01)
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

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[dinomite]

why do you say nothing older than 94? (the model year you're thinking of is 94-95) the problem is that a 94-95 is a few hundred pounds heavier (and therefore slower) than the previous, 87-93 body style. if you're looking for speed, get a manual hardtop, preferrably an 87-93. if you get an 87-93, you will not only save some money (how much depends on what year exactly), a quicker car to begin with, and more money to spend on mods.

[ace2600]

I only want the 94 or 95 because I like the design of the SN95, not the Fox style and I want a 5 liter engine, not the 4.6. The car will be manual. Maybe low 12s are pushing it, but are real low 13s? I may do nitrous but I would prefer not too, but if I have too. What is the quarter mile times for the new Camaros, because thats my real competetion.

Thanks again

P.S. I live in Houston, Texas (Sugar Land to be exact) and would like to see the street races. Anyone know where they are, exact directions would help. You can email me at ace2600@hotmail.com

[SlowStang2]

I forget what magazine it was, but I am pretty sure it was car and driver that did a special a year or maybe more ago on the 10 fastest cars that are not super expensive to buy. I remember the Lightning was last and either a Lamborgini or Viper was first, but the new trans am and camaro models were in it too. And if I dont recall correctly, they were the ram air edititons. The Camaro ran a 13.5 STOCK and believe it or not the trans am ran a 13.3 STOCK. I remember this article clearly because I read over 3 times just to figure out what the editors could not figure out either as to why the camaro was a bit slower. I think the camaro is a bit lighter too..oh well. There are your times.

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94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, GT-40Y Turbo Swirl aluminum heads, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator, Steeda strut tower and subframes 14.2@102 MPH on G-tech;?MPH at track. I know, I know I am working on it.

[95mustanggt]

With the 5.0L in the 94/95 GT's you could always buy the Holley Systemax kit or Edelbrock kit or whatever. In MM&FF a car with the Edel kit ran a 13.5 with exhaust, gears, and drag radials.

The systemax kit goes for around $2000 and gears and exhaust you might get for around $1000. That would put you in the low to mid 13's no problem.

Buy the MM&FF 5.0 Tech guide and read it.

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1995 Mustang GT

[topless tire fryer]

Hey 95mustanggt, where can you get a copy of the MM&FF 5.0 Tech guide?

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'95 Chrome Yellow GT ragtop, KN filter charger, Dynomax cat back, Accel plugs and wires.

You never mentioned what these ricers, LT1's and other cars have done to them....are they stock? Depending what they have done to them, I don't know if you'l have the fastest car, but I think you could easily get your Stang into the low 13's w/ $3k (nice set of heads; new intake, MAF, TB; nice pair of tires in the rear; and 3.73 gears!

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

[95mustanggt]

Originally posted by topless tire fryer:
Hey 95mustanggt, where can you get a copy of the MM&FF 5.0 Tech guide?

I've seen them at various magazine stands, although not at all of them. The tech guide is a special issue. I just saw a copy of it at Barnes and Nobles here in Dallas last week.

If I had access to a scanner I'd scan it in PDF format and post it.


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1995 Mustang GT

[Fox Body]

Originally posted by ace2600:
...When I tell people this they laugh and say Mustangs are not that fast, get a Firebird...

LOL. Whoever told you that is STUPID and doesn't know what the crap they are talking about... probably don't even have a car. The fact is you can make ANY car "fast" with enough money.

Now in your situation, just forget about low 12s for $3000 or less in a '94-95 Mustang GT for now. Shooting for low 13s would be a sensible goal. MAKE SURE YOU GET A MANUAL 5-SPEED HARDTOP, NOT CONVERTIBLE.

As already briefly mentioned by exgmguy:

"3.73's installed 500 bucks
slicks and 15" wheels 500 bucks <--- assuming only 2 tires and rims (not 4)
150 hp nitrous kit 700 bucks*
aftermarket heads 1000 bucks*
aftermarket intake 500 bucks*"

*But what sucks is that all this assumes (except for the gears and wheels) you do all the work yourself or get it done for free (no labor charge).

Gears, free flowing exhaust, Cobra intake, and drag radials would be what I'd be looking at buying with that kind of budget (heads would set you back monetarily a bunch). With good driving skill, that'd put you in the high 13s... and that ain't no dog, that's respectable competition. And a few months down the road, save up for aftermarket heads and nitrous BAM! = high 12s = fastest car in your school (hopefully). Truly, good things come to those who wait a little. Do it right and don't focus on being top dog with just one swing. And if you get beat, hey, let them talk trash, those are the guys I enjoy embarassing the most.

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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback
Stock 5.8L under custom made 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit
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1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
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[This message has been edited by Fox Body (edited 09-10-2001).]

[ace2600]

The integra (ricer) is modified but only exhaust and a fiberglass body, the firebirds arent modified except for maybe an exhaust and sound system. Trucks are jacked up and there are 2 with v10s (im not sure if they are fast though). I am getting a hardtop and standard. I have 10 to 11 thousand to spend on the car (including purchase), could I buy a 94 or 95 cobra with that?

I am still looking at going to see some street racing this Saturday. I would appreciate directions or advice!

[ace2600]

I live in Houston, Texas to those that want to help me with Street racing places, and you can email me at ace2600@hotmail.com
Thanks,
-Ace

[Ashliegh]

Go with the stang! Birds are no challenge, for stangs, unless you go back in years and i mean 70's and are beafed up. I have a friend with a 97 Z28 he only has intake and exausted done and he ripps up birds left and right even stock 5.0

[Mustang92]

Just keep in mind that the 98 or 99 and newer GM's with the LS1 will tear you apart. They can and will run low 13's and even a high 12 in stock form.

Bill

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00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys & Timing Adjuster, C&L 80mm, 4.30’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR Pro Series LCA’s, Lakewood 70/30’s & 50/50’s, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ
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[1BAD89]

MARTY , MARTY, MARTY. =(

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

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[dashapht]

you could always just o-ring your heads, install a big fat intercooled procharger, clutch, 3.27 gear, and some drag radials.. you'll have the cheby boys running skeered.

but seriously, there are many ways to go about making one fast.. it's just a matter of asking yourself one question: "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?" What kind of budget are you working with? I know for a HS kid insurance on a Mustang isn't necesarially cheap, so mods are probably going to be limited (unless you're one of those lucky kids who can get their parents to take care of everything.) If that is the case, just install a stroked 351 with a blower and all the accompanying mods. You'll get em

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[This message has been edited by dashapht (edited 09-16-2001).]

hey 89 look i didn't mean to dis gm's ok i work on them all the time just this weekend has sucked, because i defended, a soilder which , as you know i was in the military, myself so iv'e been everybody's target for the weekend , itold you i grew up with many badass chevy's it's just , yhay it was , late & i was tired & all the guy's at work dog me because i drive ,ford's there are many chevy's i like & respect i missed a good deal on a 56 ,2 door the other day , but did'nt have the buck's for it 2000 , it was freshely painted ,vette rally's & no running gear except ,rear end i would have been proud to own it . buy it's gone now. i will not dog chevy's anymore ok -promise just don't dog me on the board again , e- mail me & dog me in private ok . got my stereo straight , how about your's let me know see ya.

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