camaroz28 2001 vs mustang gt 2001
 

which one is faster or has better handling???im buying a new car in about two weeks and im still deciding between these two great cars...so pleaseeee helpp...i need infos

The Z28 is quite a bit faster.

If you buy a 2001 Ford GT, it will have about 260hp..I think that the Camero's are pushing around 300. Then the Cobra SVT is pushing 320hp! and only costs about 26,000...

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

The 2001 Cobra is better all around!!! Finally Back on top http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif

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1988 LX 5.0 3060lbs (full Tank) 14.90@100.2 On a Gtech
Drivetrain: 2.73 Stock Gears (New Gears Are in my house3.55), World Class T-5, Lakewood Bellhousing, Summit Adjustable Cluch Quadrant & Cable, Alumminum Driveshaft, Flaming River Manual Steering Rack
Suspension: MAC Control Arms,Maximum Motorsports Front Grip Package, H&R Sport Spings, Bilstein Shocks
Engine: Steal Mounts, Ram air, K&N, Under Drive Pulles
Exhaust: 1 5/8 Un-Equal Length Mac Headers, X-pipe W\cats, Edelbrock cat\

2001 GT: 230 rwhp
0-60: 5.4
¼ mi: 14.0-14.2@99-100
2001 Z28: 285 rwhp
0-60: 5.2
¼ mi: 13.6-13.8@103-104
2001 Cobra: 275 rwhp (Motor Trend 6/01)
0-60: 4.8 (Motor Trend 6/01)
¼ mi: 13.5@105 (Motor Trend
6/01
2001 SS: 300 rwhp
0-60: 5.0
¼ mi: 13.6@105

Those are hard facts....the snake is back!!!
Slap some gears, pullies and exhaust and there is your 12 second stock engined Cobra http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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Dustin
Saleenized 89 GT,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,FRPP 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 75mm Bullet,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119

Hard facts? Where? All I see are magazine times from Road and Driver Trend. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/rolleyes.gif

Z28 or GT....I'd go w/ te z28. Z28 or Cobra....Cobra all the way (hands down).

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

You are just sore cause you prolly can't hang with them anymore http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/tongue.gif

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Dustin
Saleenized 89 GT,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,FRPP 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 75mm Bullet,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

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I drove a 00 SS the other day for the hell of it and wasn't impressed. Get the cobra or buy a GT and spend the extra $ on mods. I bought a used 00 GT (4k miles) with every option for 18k, put on 1k worth of bolt ons and it runs strong. I ran 14.2 before any mods, I'm expecting high 13's next time at the track. You could just go ahead and pay 30k for an SS though, they arent bad, I just personally didnt find it fun to drive. Just my 2 cents.

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Black 2000 GT,5 spd,17" wheels,4:10's,flowmasters Steeda pulleys, timing adjuster, K&N filter

I've raced two LS1s while driving my Mustang and beat one. The only reason the other beat me was because I spun off the line. And I've raced once while driving my GN and beat it.

So I'm 2-1 against LS1s. Yeah, I can hang with them still.

my frens 2001 gt supercharged auto....is running 13.8 in 1/4 mile...what u guys think of this???

You know what I think of that..I think something is wrong. Arent those cars suppost to be low 14's high 13's stock..but then again thats w/a 5-speed..But it should still be faster than that.

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

He's got issues! There is a guy here locally with automatic, gears, drag radials and a Procharger on his car running 12.2's @ 112.



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00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys & Timing Adjuster, 4.10’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR Pro Series LCA’s, Lakewood 70/30’s & 50/50’s, Weld Pro Stars, Kaenen Cobra R Hood, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ
12.91@101.93 (1.74 60ft)
M/M 100, 7085
Recent Pic from Moroso

Thats also in the Hot Texas heat probably.

There was a guy with a silver 2000 GT that had NO power adders, just gears, exhaust, a few suspension pieces, Timing adjuster, Throttle Body, and pullies running on an average of 13.2 at 101 MPH. His highest speed was 104, lowest was 99. Fastest time was 12.98, slowest was 13.5. That was in Rockingham at the MOd Motor Shoot out. What is strange though, is there was a few 99+GT's that were running mid to high 13's with BLowers. I think they were Autos though.

There was this awesome Cobra that had a 100% stock block but just a blower running 18 lbs of boost, well thats what the announcer said. He was clocking High 9's with a 140 something MPH. I'm not sure if he had the stock gears in it, didnt get a chance to find him and talk to him. T

Hmm that's funny because I was the only NA car to run a 12 at the Mod Motor Shootout. The silver car ran a bunch of low 13's but no 12's. Only reason I know this is because I won the 2v NA class this year.

Guess I didn't update my sig as I did on other boards.

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00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys & Timing Adjuster, 4.10’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR Pro Series LCA’s, Lakewood 70/30’s & 50/50’s, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ
12.91@101.93 (1.74 60ft)
M/M 100, 7085
2001 Mod Motor Shootout 2V NA Champion
Recent Pic from Moroso

I would of sworn that the guy in the silver GT dipped into the high 12's on a run. He bowed out early because he couldnt run consistantly enough. I thought the wagon out there was interesting.

I'm trying to remember. It was so damn hot Sunday out there that I was probably seeing things. Every time I go to Rockingham drag strip I get sunburnt big time. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/frown.gif

I was kinda disapointed that the power adder 2V were running like they were. Seemed like the NA 2V were running just as fast, if not faster.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list
2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax
64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/contrib...uble0smile.gif

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I agree it was hot out there. I was in pain for my 11 hour ride back home! Between qualifying and eliminations my best pass was a 13.03. I had a 12.96 pass but that was during time trials on Sunday. The Silver GT was running DR's most of the day on Sunday till his buddy let him run his ET street's. That got his times down in the 13.2 range but never went any quicker.

The 2v PA class was a little of a disappointment to me as well at least the ET's were. Last year it was won with a car in the 10.8 range. For next year I may be running the power adder class in which case I plan on winning again! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

wudyall think of the new wrx subaru???

...and than I come around with a Stock 2000 GT and run 13.6xx... hehehe, I'd like to see what I can do with a 01 Cobra. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

I will concentrate on just the Fbodies because it's what I know but let me start off by saying that I have yet to see a stock Cobra that does anything less than 13.6 without a great driver. I've been to the track a few times and no Cobras have done better than 14.0 but I know they can do better cause Popular mechanics got one to do 13.62 or thereabouts...but then again their drivers are "expert drivers" and to balance it out...they got a "stock" LS1 formula to do 13.15 and a stock SS to do 13.42 so with that in mind

Dude,

The Z28 and the SS have the same engine :the LS1...there are no differences in the engine. The horsepower rating on these engines is given by GM as "310" for the Z28 and "325" for the SS. This is counting that the 2000+ model year cars have the LS6 intake (the intake that comes on the ZO6 corvette) which lets them breath better. My car which does NOT have the LS6 intake standard dynoed at 286.4 at the wheels stock which puts it at about 337.95hp at the engine. GM has underrated the Fbody LS1s for two reasons:

1. They don't want Corvette owners to think they've dropped 50 large on a car with the same engine as one that costs half that much (Corvette is the flagship)

2. Insurance purposes...it is much easier to sell these cars to their intended market (20-30 yr olds) when insurance is not as high as the Corvette.


This is not a flame. You are Mustang guys and there is no reason you should know specifics about the engines on Camaros/Firebirds so I am not flaming you for your numbers...just correcting you on your information.


cilvrwing:

Which ever one you get...you can't go wrong...stock both these cars are good performers and there are tons of performance parts out there for both marques, I do offer this advice:

If you go with the Fbody (LS1) go with an SS or a Firehawk, they are more expensive but come with more performance toys stock(which means they are fully warrantied).

If you go with the Mustang...go with the Cobra. Again, it is more expensive but you get an engine upgrade to 320hp and it is more prestigious than just another GT.

that's my take.


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1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, MTI-Clear Lid w/K&N, B&B Triflo, BMR STB, Pro 5.0 Power Tower, 160 Powerstat, HPP3, TB Coolant bypass, Ported MAF, Taylor 409 wires(10.4 mm), NGK TR-55s, Redline Synthetic Lubricants, K&N oil filter,
BEST E.T. 13.27 @ 106.39 (street tires)

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bah...sorry...double post for some reason


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GT-Hunter-

Before you go shootin off, those were actual dyno results I have seen personally. The same guy that dynoes my car had a gm dyno day a while back, and those were 2 cars that I picked. The SS had SLP headers and exhaust, the Z did not. From my understanding, the SS's were offered that option....so don't tell me I don't know my specifics, because I think I do....you know..."know thy enemy"?? http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

I was referring to the new Cobra, it has been tested, and does run 105's

Shouldn't the SS run better in the ¼ because of the ram air...or is that a publicity hoax too like the hp rating??

No flame...just some bumping and rubbing http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif

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Dustin
Saleenized 89 GT,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,FRPP 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 75mm Bullet,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

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http://www.mustangworks.com/rides/pictures/Listing1549-slot1.jpg

My opinion...I'm not too impressed. I have a few buddies that are big on the import seen and did nothing but brag about how these cars would run mid to low 13's stock. Well they come out and barely get into the low 14's at 94 MPH. Then turns out that the transmissions in them are a far cry from the Japan version and don't hold up well to added power. So now even if you do some of the basic turbo upgrades the tranny can't handle the power. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone comes out with a good sucessor of the Eclipse but it sure isn't the WRX. That's my take on it.

gracias homies

Actually, i have a 5.0 magazine, forgot which issue, dynoed the cobra, to find out it was overrated, this was a disapointment, but just slightly, still a badazz car, and i have seen a 01 ss camaro go 13.4 stock, it took the guy lots of practice, he started out running 14.0's lol, but actually improved that much, he might have had stickier tires, but it was stock.

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

im hoping a vette (a new one)... just wanna kill one once.... but im waiting for anything else to come my way... slomaro ect...

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ALL NEW PPG Torch Red 95GT, 304ci block, Forged pistons, Ported Explorer Intake, E-303 cam, fully ported and polished and milled E-7 heads, 75mm MAS, BBK Adj. fuel Reg & gauge, BBK Shorty Headers, BBK H-pipe, March Pulleys, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Kenny Brown 6 point Roll cage, Kenny Brown Panhard Bar, Powerslot Rotors, PBR twin piston calipers, Eibach Sportline Springs, 180* Thermostat, 1/2 Plenum Spacer, MSD 6AL, MSD Master Blaster, MSD 8.8 Wires, 24# Racing Injectors, AFS 10.5" Cobra R's, Nit

Either way you cant go wrong.. If you can afford it get a Cobra over a GT (i dont car for the tacked on hood scoop).. And if you go chevy get a SS over a Z28.. the Z IMO looks sorta plain and you can pick up a 2001 SS (which has a lot of engine upgrades over a 2k) for a great price ~ ive seen them go for $25k. Its really hard to find a discount on a Cobra.. You can see my dyno numbers at the bottom.. thats with about $200 in performance mods and if you add in the %15-18% drivetrain loss that means im making over 370hp at the flywheel.. fbods are way underrated by GM.. as long as you by good old rear-wheel-drive V8 you cant go wrong http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif

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2000 SS - Lgt Pewter/Blk Full-Power Recaro Seats
Wings West color matched grill, Carbon Fiber Interior - SLP Packages ~ Bilstein Shocks, Hotchkis 1" drop springs, Auburn Differential, Braxxton Chambered Exhaust with SLP tips, Hotchkis STB, Hotchkis SFC's, Hotchkis Panhard Bar & Trailing Arms, Hotchkis Rear Sway Bar and 1LE Front Bar, Hurst Short Throw 6spd (with Lous Short Shift), Boyd Blaster Billet Wheels, Macewen Silver Guages, SS milled Sparco Pedals, SLP 85mm MAS, Fbody Concepts Carbon

Thats funny.. i thought my dyno #'s were in my sig.. oh well

320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE (on a dynojet)