Carlsbad Results ???????
 

I wasn't able to make the Carlsbad event today, but my buddy (LS-1 guy, ran 13.2's though) shot alot of video for me. He said no one had "MW" or "Corral" or anything marked on their cars. Anyway, I would like to hear some numbers, so please post you results.

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347, 279/284 .493/.510, TFS TW, Stealth, 750, Flowtech hdrs, Dr. Gas X, 2 Chmbr Flowmaster, MSD 6AL-Dist.& SS coil, Art Carr C-4, Currie 9" w/3.55, alum Drv Shft, susp mods, 4 wheel power disc
In a 66 coupe

only 3 from mustangworks showed. Me, fastang, and sky...

If you go to the blue oval you will see my bonehead move (purging my ENTIRE nos bottle in my trunk) but I am sure sky will post his times as soon as he gets home.

I ran (N/A) 14.6... http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/frown.gif
There was a huge turnout of stangs there..more than I have ever seen.

Would have done better if my juice had actually gotten into the motor! Fastang ran 14.3 I think but the track was slick as usual...

[This message has been edited by ed1371 (edited 03-25-2001).]

46stang was also there, and NO SLO PK, in his Lightening. I raced him, and I raced McRat from LS1.com

My best run of the night was against the guy from ls1.com in his 2000 SS 6spd w/ cut out and a couple intake mods and drag radials.

I went 12.5@107mph Someone told me I may have pulled the front left tire slightly.

60' was 1.714.

My first run on street tires was 13.8@106.8 with a 2.56 60'. It was so slippery out there.

From there I ran a 12.7@107.08, 12.5@106.96, and 12.6@107.3mph.

What I dont get is I ran 105.8mph last year in 100 degree weather with 100lbs heavier car and no tuneing! It had 45psi fuel pressure and 23 degree intial timing then. Today I had 16deg and 26psi fuel press. I think theres more power in the timing. I think the guy that dynoed me was stuipd. I'm obviously not making 332rwhp.

Also I added a short belt from the 2nd run on. I don't think it did anything though.

Skyler


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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's.
332RWHP@5500
351RWTQ@3750
Runs on 87 Octane!

Hey sky, I think it's possible that you do have that much hp. According to the stang analyzer you are right there. Your car is running almost the same times as mine. I pulled a 1.764 60ft and pulled the front tire on this run.
http://24.129.214.226/images/tirelift.jpg
But my best 60ft on this combo was a 1.686 but I missed 3rd gear and screwed up the run.


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James Cox
nochevy@hotmail.com
1991 Mustang LX
12.565 @109.38mph 1.764 60ft

I wish I could have gone. We've got to go again. I've got new rims on order, should be in Tuesday. Anybody looking for 15" 10 hole Mustang rims? I've got 3.
SKYMAN - I plugged your 1/4 numbers into the analyzer - based on 3200 lbs track weight (car + you) you've got 323 HP. Not too far off.

I know you didn't get the numbers you were dreaming for, but who cares Sky? 12.5@107 is hauling *** for a N/A street driven 302!!! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif Not to mention you can't be complaining about you 60ft. You basically picked up a second right there over usual!

I think there may be a little more in it, and 400hp at the crank should give you better than 107, I agree with you on that. You should be in the 110's somewhere with that kind of hp.

Still, I can't take anything away from the Saleen, it's running badass! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/cool.gif

withamc: I am looking for 2 15" rims! I was going to look at the junk yard but if you have them already cool...

Sky, nice times nothing to be ashamed of. Your MPH does seem low though for that much RWHP (i would have thought 110+). BTW did you beat the LS1 SS????
I'm working on my car over the winter here and will be aiming for the elusive 110+mph also.
I think its time for a blower install!!

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306ci, TFS stage 3 heads. port/pol edlebrock performer intake.
77mm mass air, 70mm TB, crane 2030 cam, Mac full length headers, flowmasters
3.73 gears and more.

ed1371 - Check your messages about those rims. I'm also selling 3 (maybe 4) 225-60R-15 Comp T/A tires too.

Yeah, the ET is definatly good. I got 22mpg on the way home going 70mph and 1 hour was stop and go traffic, so 24mpg should be easy if I didnt hit the stop and go in hollywood.

My track weight is probably around 3400lbs. The car is 3280 stock -40 for aluminum heads + 50 for subframes. -80 for race seats + 175 for me and I had a half tank of gas, so about 40 lbs for that. Puts me aroudn 3400 race weight.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Yeah thats defintitely not Pomona. Pomona was cheaper and better. That track was slick as he11. I was on drag radials and did a 15 sec second gear burnout and still pulled a sh1tty 2.2 60ft. I spun hitting second on my first run too. My best of the day was a 14.41 @ 98ph. Im seriously pissed. I hit a 14.67 @ 96.7 mph when my car was totaly stock at Pomona. Something is seriously wrong because my timing is only at 9 degrees and Im detonating down the track. I spent all this money on my car and only dropped two tenths! WTF! Maybe my cam and rocker combo are too big for my stock heads and intake, or maybe it just needs some fuel mods. Can lack of fuel cause detonation? I just added longtubes and a flowmaster cat back, the rest is in my sig.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

If I could change my screenname to slostang, I would. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

You might want to look at some photos Trumps)Corral) put up from Sat. http://www.sisi.net/jason/cruises/3....29&action=back


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95 Blown Cobra
#83 of 4005
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Jesse- I dunno whast wron giwth your car but its something. Are you running 1.7 rockers? that with the B-cam may be too much lift and trying to make power too high for your ehads. you know what that mean. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif NEW heads!! Also I think the detonation is definatly because of lack of fuel. Its the only thing I can think of, and lack of fuel can definatly cause taht. Get a fuel pressure reg, and then we gota head out to the track again.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

you think you had a bad run faststang. yours looks like a top fueler compared to mine. slick wasn't the name for the track. it was like some one through a bucket of snot(crap) on the starting line. I had regular bfg street tires on my car and I couldn't even hook(MOVE). damb car only moved about 10 feet forward through 1,2 and 3rd gear. i tried to let off in 2nd and hit it again, instant redline and didn't move. finally 3rd still burning out I let off and hit it again it grabbed then butt I dropped down to like 2700 rpm. I just said f-ck it and stuck it out. I ran a bad a$$ time of 16.06 at 98mph. my 60ft was like a 2.70.awesome http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/frown.gif oh well. I ran a 14.75 at 95mph at pomona, with my old heads. so i guess the good thing is I picked up 3mph and basically started in 3rd.I had to take off so I didn't get to try any more http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/frown.gif if you go to that track take slicks. plus you need a 4 wheel drive to get into that track. I say we try out palmdale in a month or two. what do you guys think?

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies, 373's, 70mm t/b, gutted maf, bassani x-pipe w/cats, ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n. fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

Lets not goto palmdale, I've been there, and its just slow as crap. I know you can convert the times, but its still disappointing to run slow.

That track was slick. But I am watching the video now and I managed to pull both front wheels!!! Im excited now.. Next time I'm going to pull the way bar!

We should head out to famoso or bakersfield.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

i just want to be able to park on pavement not a dirt field http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif where is famoso skyler? is that the one out in the fontana(riverside) area. either one is cool. I'm in.

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies, 373's, 70mm t/b, gutted maf, bassani x-pipe w/cats, ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n. fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

Sky, What is your fuel pressure set at WOT? Just curious. Mine is now 26ish at idle and 35 at WOT. It feels a lot better than 5 psi higher.

Just want to say that Sky's car runs damn fast! When we ran together I watched him disappear into the distance as he posted another 12 second pass (and another mid 15 for my Ltng.)

Okay Sky, you beat my tow rig. But next time my LX will be ready with a TKO. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif

Seeing how fast Sky's Saleen runs makes me want to do similar changes to my LX.

Sweet car Sky!

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Russ L
'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

Fuel mods are relatively cheap. Im going to get a new pump and regulator then get a dyno tune and head back. My timing is only set at 9 and Im still detonating. You just cant make any power with you timing at 7 degrees. If more fuel doesnt solve my problems Im gonna sell my stang an get an SVT Focus! jk Did you see the car they put me up against on my last run? It was that dragster that ran a low 8 on my *** . He was done before I hit third gear http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Famoso is a couple miles north of Bakersfield - 2-1/2 hours from Ventura County (OK 2 if we fly). How much slower is LACR? I definitely want to go - I'm getting new 16" fake Cobra rims and Yokahama 225-50-16 Z rated tires to fix Friday night's blunder.

Just to let you know LACR is SLOW! I ran 14.1@98mph and 13.8@100mph there. It was terrible. I felt like I was in 3rd gear forever.

I'm ready to head out asap to the track again. Hell next weekend even. I need to tune my car a bit. If you guys wanna go I'm in, its definatly better when you have people you know there http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif.

Russ- Next time get the stang out, and we'll line em up. But if your on anything but street tires I know you'll destroy me.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Ok heres the video of my run against MCRat from the LS1.COM message board.

He has a 2000 SS with exhaust cut out and a couple little intake mods, running on Nitto DR's.
http://members.aol.com/lskymanl/50vsls1.mpg

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Sky, Im probably going to order the fuel stuff today. If I can I might go back in 2 weeks. If you want to wait to join me.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Damn Sky nice launch..although he did beat you on the tree you seem to reel him in - great power.
What did the SS run, how many car lengths did you smoke him by.
Jeez now I really wish I had my car out....

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306ci, TFS stage 3 heads. port/pol edlebrock performer intake.
77mm mass air, 70mm TB, crane 2030 cam, Mac full length headers, flowmasters
3.73 gears and more.

hey fastang, I am planning on going back in 2 weeks also...might see you there

Danm sky Nice run! I wish I could get my video to where I could post it but I have no idea how to compress it and it's too big.
Anyway nice video. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif


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James Cox
nochevy@hotmail.com
1991 Mustang LX
12.565 @109.38mph 1.764 60ft

12.5 is a nice run. Only problem was that I saw a STOCK 2000 SS run 13.15@107 with street tires. Those Ls1's run like a ***** from hell.

Ed, I just ordered the FPR, if it works and I can get some more timing I will go back. I'll let you know.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Sounds like u guys had alot of fun makes me wish i was there. Damn i miss my car and being in Califronia.

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69 428 cobra jet: tons of mods.
97 f-150 5.4 xlt mark III
BUCKLE UP. SUCK IT IN.
Objects in the mirror are about to disappear...
QUICKLY!!!!!!

Yeah, I definatly need to get atleast 2 more times into the track before it gets hot out. I want to do some tuning to my car while I'm out there. Bakersfield or carlsbad. Although all the dirt at carlsbad is pretty crappy... We should head out to bakerfield maybe next time. I'm up for it whenever!

Also turns out the LS1 I raced was the Fastest LS1 at carlsbad that day! SO much for those mighty ls1's haha. (no, they are quick) he ran 13.1@108.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Rob- I have no idea what my FP is at WOT, my gauge is under the hood, but its at 25psi at idle. ANd it almost dies when it starts now on cool mornings.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Cool video. Excellent race!!!!

Is that race posted on LS1.com????? http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif



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1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088
Mostly Stock
1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

It definatly is http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif

The guy I raced is really cool, Mcrat is his name.
Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

The fastest Ls1 was not Mcrat it was the C5 running mid 11's. The second fastest was a black firebird who didnt have slicks and was running low 13's at over 115mph.(now thats a traction problem) with slicks he would be high 11's. Like I said my buddy ran 13.1 @107 Stock on street tires. Sorry if I find that more impressive than your HIGHLY modified car running .5 faster WITH SLICKS. Is there such a thing as a fast 4.6??? Havent seen one yet, I am not a fan of the 4.6 but the 5.0 rocks

There was another F-body LS1 was running 11.70s. The guy said he had an ATI and it sounded like it from the gear whine. I wanted to ask him more questions, but never got the chance.

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Russ L
'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

[This message has been edited by NO SLO PK (edited 03-28-2001).]

Nice runs sky!!! Damn I need to get that launch kit and some struts. I have been watching your times because for a while we had very similar times, guess its time to take mine to the track and see what it runs.

Is that you fuel pressure with 24#'s or 30#'s thanks.

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1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies, etc...
Best ET 13.5 (2.15 60ft)
Best MPH 103.9
On semi-bald street tires
New mods! electric fan, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5, A/C SP delete

Ok when I said it was the fastest that was what he told me, and other guys from the LS1.COM site. Ok, so there was 1 faster car, the C5 vette. The black firebird never ran as fast as McRats 2000SS, more mph, but not as good as ET. So your screwed up there GP6T. And I bet slicks alone WILL not put him in the high 11's, hes gonna need suspension too. And that was a HIGHLY modified LS1, so that shouldn't impress you.

So my car is highly modified? It still runs 87 octane gas. Something NO LS1 does, gest 24mpg, has a nice stereo, Power everything, air condition and everything. Not to mention it all checks in under $12000, much less than your LS1 car. And if you knew anything at all you would know my car isn't a 4.6L its a 5.0. 1989=5.0L for the ignorant. No such thing as a fast 4.6L, well let me correct you again Mr. Ignorant, there are some in the 9's and I believe one in the 8's even. Guess thats not so fast though. Not to mention Jmeiers low 12sec stock motored 4.6L cobra.

Also all your other Ls1's running 13's on street tires could as easily put on slicks as anyone else. Its a mod just like exhaust or intake. Maybe I should get an Aluminum block, high compression and a 351. Or would that be too highly modified for you? I think that would just level the playing ground with the LS1 don't you GP6T?

And Russ the ATI blown car your talking about was a LT1 it was a 1994.

And fuel pressure is w/ 24lb injectors.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

I just want to make one thing clear though. I'm not trying to start a flame here or anything, it seems like we have differing opinions and I'm trying to debate it with you. I just didnt want 10,000 people jumping in and start the name calling. So GP I'm waiting your reply.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Just wanted to mention, Sky's engine is just a 302, not a 350 like the LS1. When was the last time you saw a streetable Z28 with a 305 run mid 12s?

If Sky had a similarly sized engine to the LS1, like a 347 or 351, he'd be turning high 11s (or close to) with the mods he currently has.

(Sky, sorry for jumping in...I just had to get that off my chest. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif)

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Russ L
'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

yea, I'm jumping in too. also all of his parts are straight out of the box. no porting and polishing, and he has a 50 state legal cam that is pretty mild. so don't get butt hurt. we're all just having fun. as far as modulars go. go over to the corral and see what kind of numbers they are putting out of a little 281 modular motor. barry shepard has a n/a cobra with 425rwhp and turning high 11's. so hows that for 281ci of respect and it's totally streetable.

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies, 373's, 70mm t/b, gutted maf, bassani x-pipe w/cats, ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n. fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

SKY, I never said your car was a 4.6, and I never said there was anything wrong with it. All I said was that a stock SS ran a half of a second slower than your modified car, and I thought it was impressive. There was a few new cobra's there with 4.6's running around 14 sec WITH MANY MODS. I just thought that it was FUNNY. And as far as the Black Firebird with heads and cam goes, I was saying that his pile of crap LS1 is putting out a hell of alot of power. If you guys fail to see it than Ive got some beach front property in Arizona to sell you. YADA YADA YADA you guys know it all thats why your never on the tech board, because you know everthing allready..............late