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Just thought i would share another exciting story with you guys. I live in lansing mi. right by MSU last night i was on my way home when a new Z28 ss pulled up next to me.( I have almost a complete stock 88lx).I thought i was in deep **** now, because i knew what was going to happen next. well the light turned green and we were off. (Mind you this is the first camarow i have raced). WEll to my suprize i got him by a car link to about 80mph. I LOVED IT, I BEAT HIM. he keeped messing with me after that but i decide that i ran my girl a little hard on that one so that was good enought for me. WEll i am still on my way home and he decided to get in front of me and flip me off as he was going on to the highway. So i decided to take him on the highway also again just a couple minutes out of my way, but woth it! well that race was another story. But i got $2,000 in my pocket saying does not do that again.
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Just a pointer, but this really should have been posted in SRC. http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...oard/smile.gif
Hehe, none of the LS1 guys are going to believe you. I saw an awesome quote from a stanger on LS1.com about the impossibility of an LS1 losing to a Mustang. I'm gonna have to save it. It was a riot. I actually printed it out. It's also amazing how often the SD cars get picked on cause they are older, thus in the opponents eyes, slower. Hehe, boy are they shocked when they find out our cars can run! Nice kill! |
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Stock Lx vs a new ss? hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
I hope stock means performance heads,exhaust and gears. If you beat him it was because he just learned to drive a stick shift last night. I'm not flaming....I am a big stang fan but read up on your competition. ------------------ Rob meister 87 Lincoln Continental http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...174&p=41688574 |
Well, I guess I'd have to say I believe him. I've beaten 2 WS6 LS1's, and I've done pretty well, not losing ground behind an LS1 SS with my relatively stock 87GT.
Now the car's I've raced have all been converts, but I beat one of the WS6's by at least a couple cars to 70, and that was from a roll. Most of the LS1's that people seem to see at the tracks run mid/high 13's@105ish. Whether that is related to the drivers not being able to drive or what I don't know. A freebie/stock 88LX coupe or hatch can run damn close to a 14.0@98 with solid driving. From a 0-80 the LS1 will outpower a 5.0, but if you get a solid jump and he's not the greatest driver it shouldn't be that hard holding one off to 80. Also, please read a bit more deeply into his post, he's bascially admitting that he got burned trying to race the SS on the hiway. Maybe you're a big Mustang fan and you've been reading up on the GM competition at LS1.com, but please, at least ask the mods before you attack him, the SD fox stangs are appearently a hell of a lot faster than what you realize. ------------------ 1987 GT 5spd. D&D Performance "Z" spec T-5 Dynomax 2.5" Super Turbo system BBK 2 1/2" H-pipe with cats |
Hey nice kill i hope i get to race an ls1 I sill have never gotten to. There are not many around my home town. A few old cameros to pick on though.
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I can beleive this,
my car is not SD and i beleive i can pull 13.7 out of it, just got to open up the exhaust a little more. hopefully i can hang like that with my aunts ws6 automatick 01, that sucker is nice, i should be able to hold my own until 70-80. ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 97.80 Best 60': 2.0047 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe |
Just curious, but what kind of HP is the LS1 actually making? I'm not sure, but I think it's over 300. And the SS camaro probably weighs more, but not by much. Lets just say I would have loved to have seen the race.
------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny 15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car) 60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!! |
An LS1 weighs at least 400lbs more than a fox apples to apples.
The LS1 SS is rated at 320hp, however dyno numbers usually show 280-290rwhp indicating that it has more along the lines of 340hp at the crank. Nobody will dispute an LS1 has more potential in stock form than an 88LX does, but that is just the car, not the driver. I don't think you'll have a problem with hanging with your aunt up to 80 90dpscoupe, but after that, unless it's a vert your gonna be in a lot more hot water. http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...oard/smile.gif |
Congrats on the run. Good to see someone get excited over their car all over again.
http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...oard/smile.gif Don't doubt, anything is possible. --bad shifts --no traction |
Yep, and my corvette kill is a perfect example of how anything can happen, driving and traction.
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The automatic LS1s weigh around 3400lbs. (Mine weighed 3450 on the scales at Desoto, fully optioned auto with alot of gas). There always comes a point when the better driver wins. Figuring my car ran 13.80 @ 100 stock a 14.0 @ 98 isn't far off. Some of these cars are hot from the factory and others are average just like any other car.
jess ------------------ 99 Z28 A4 3.23 Lid/Filter,MAF,MACs/OR,cutout,tb,MW3200 stall 321rwhp/330rwtq The Sled stock vs mods dyno Time slip |
Well my best friend has a 99 Z28 6sp. Well I have drove the car a lot and there is no way that a stock 5.0 will come close to beating it. I have beat several cobras with it, even 99 Cobras. I am a diehard Mustang guy, but I admit his car is fast, and no stock mustang can take it. :-(
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Would you consider 4.10's and drag radials stock, cause a properly driven Cobra with those mods will beat it.
Unless your friend runs 12's? Stock. |
On the track those ls1's really put up good numbers, and on the street anything can happen, so saying a stock 5.0, well lets say one with free mods bumped timing ect.. cant beat one is stupid, because you never know what a stock5.0 can beat, or what can beat it??
------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 97.80 Best 60': 2.0047 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe |
First of all, my friends is all stock and can run low 13's. And throw a set of 4.10s and some radials and I would bet it would be somewhere in the 12s definately. Now I have never seen a cobra come close to two cars to it and that is stock too!!!
Stock 5.0s would run upper 14s and low 15s at the track. The only way that car could have beat that camaro, is they couldn't drive it or it is no where near stock. |
Well i happen to know some near stock fox bodies in the high 13's, take mine for example? but yes those t/a's and camaros can run low 13's. If i had exhaust and a suspension setup i could be in the 13.4 area, but then it's that much more not stock.
Does your friend have stock grs, how many guys know of, or had a stang, usually 87-88 sd car that ran 13.8 around 99-100? probaly quite a few, so thats ls1 territory and on the street can handle an ls1, no flaming here just stating my opinions and what i've seen. ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 97.80 Best 60': 2.0047 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe |
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Sd Foxes run high 13's to real low 14's, MAF run 14flat's to low 14's. I'm sure your buddy has a fast LS1, I don't care. Not all of those cars run low 13's from the factory. They are not easy to launch or control wheelspin with. It only gets worse on the street. A lot of Stang's have traction problems too, but many like mine, do not. An LS1 spinning badly will more than likely fall to my 5.0. Reeling cars in after a hole shot is NOT easy. It takes a ton more hp than beating them straight up. |
I've seen low 13's to 14.0's at my local track from LS1's. Some are quick and some have a little less "get up and go" to them. Point is, he won and it was a street race. Anything can happen in a street race - do I sound like a broken record here?
In most cases, that same race would have probably gone the other way. Just enjoy the win, and oh,....start modding that LX!!! http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...rd/biggrin.gif E ------------------ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe -37,800 miles 13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60' Pro-Charger D-1SC on the way!!! |
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Well no I don't consider 4.10's stock, change the gear in the Z28 to 4.10's and it will help it and would be fair. I HATE to admit it, but stock vs. stock, the new Z28's will beat the mustangs. :-( (crying) ------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
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