EZRIDN Vs. C5

EZRIDN · 06-07-2002, 09:04 AM

Crusing last night in the LS1 and i rolled up to a light on the same 3 lane road that i ran the '96 GT on the other night. This road is awesome, just ask sedanman. I see this red C5 (one i have seen at my church) a couple cars ahead of me. Anyways, light changes and i get beside this C5 that is an M6, sounded mean, has racing strips, Roll Bar, Factory crome wheels, an NX sticker on the hatch window, and a couple A pillar gauages. I'm thinking, EZRIDN is about to get killed..ha ha.

We exchange glances and smiles and he knows whats up

He is a half car behind me and i hear him downshift (M6), and i kicked it when i heard him nail it at around 60. He started to pull instantly. I let off at around 105 when he did and he was about 2.5-3 cars ahead and pulling hard. I slowed down and gave him a thumbs up, and we both waved and headed our own ways.

89 Cobra LX · 06-07-2002, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by EZRIDN
He is a half car behind me and i hear him downshift (M6), and i kicked it when i heard him nail it at around 60. He started to pull instantly.

Maybe it's time for some steeper gears. You'd probably have a 12-second car with minimal modifications. Not bad.

EZRIDN · 06-07-2002, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by 89 Cobra LX

Maybe it's time for some steeper gears. You'd probably have a 12-second car with minimal modifications. Not bad.

Yea Sedanman is trying to get me to put 3.42s in it. But i kind of like the 2.73s b/c they don't really spin and i can pull 2.01-2.03 60's at the track all the time. So i don't want to put gears in that will make me spin you know.

I am hoping with just a few inexpensive mods i can hit the 12s.

Thanks for the reply.

StoplightWarrior · 06-07-2002, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by EZRIDN

Yea Sedanman is trying to get me to put 3.42s in it. But i kind of like the 2.73s b/c they don't really spin and i can pull 2.01-2.03 60's at the track all the time. So i don't want to put gears in that will make me spin you know.

I am hoping with just a few inexpensive mods i can hit the 12s.

Thanks for the reply.

So put some drag radials on at the same time as the 3.42's. Problem solved.

ricekilla · 06-07-2002, 04:27 PM

hell yeah, i would put the gears in too. there was a LT1 z28 at the track last saturday w/ pullies, control arms, slicks, cold air, and 3.42 gears going 12.8's on motor and 11.6 on a 150 shot. he was pulling the front tires off the ground in 1st and 2nd gear. you got a LS1! you should be even quicker with the same light mods he had.

sedanman · 06-09-2002, 06:16 PM

Sorry, majority rules BUY GEARS!!!!

Well your at it, buy full exhuast, converter, mass air meter, and drag radials. Cause you are gonna need it........

Rev · 06-09-2002, 06:32 PM

What does the C-5 have that the F body LS1 doesn't have other than a better exhaust system?

Rev

LfiveohX · 06-09-2002, 07:15 PM

The C5 Corvette has a more aerodynamic design and weighs a couple hundred pounds less.

Rev · 06-09-2002, 07:24 PM

What are the curb wts. and coefficient of drag. I'm really only curious. I wouldn't have thought that the C-5 was really significantly more areodynamic.

Where the heck is Aquaman when we need him, hee, hee?

Rev

Aquaman · 06-10-2002, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Rev
What are the curb wts. and coefficient of drag. I'm really only curious. I wouldn't have thought that the C-5 was really significantly more areodynamic.

Where the heck is Aquaman when we need him, hee, hee?

Rev

Right here of course

The vette has a C/D of .29 and the LS1 camaro has .31 the LT1 camaro had .33 due mainly to it's headlamp's the old ones caught alot of air.

The Vette's usually weigh in at 3220 (mines 3189) But the FRC Vette's weigh 3180 or less and most of the LS1 F bods are 3450 or so depending on options. The T-Tops add about 30 pounds and the A4 adds about 10. I have seen alot of F bods run as good at the track as Vette's but after 100 or so the Vette usually has the advantage and will walk away pretty steadily.hope that helps

FivepointOH · 06-10-2002, 11:17 AM

Why are the vettes rated with more hp then if they have the same motor? Just chevy under rating the camaros to sell more vettes?

EZRIDN: I gotta agree with the majority get the gears!(and a converter!)

Aquaman · 06-10-2002, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by FivepointOH
Why are the vettes rated with more hp then if they have the same motor? Just chevy under rating the camaros to sell more vettes?

Yeah kinda. They have different plumbing to the intake and thats really about it. The Vette intake is a straighter shot to the intake manifold but the diff. is so miniscule. They (GM) didn't want there big boy car (Vette) to have the same power rating as the Camaro. This is all speculation on my part from different things I have heard from people who "should" know. They the F bods and Vetes usually Dyno around 285ish stock with the A4 I have seen M6 cars dyno as high as 312. Both a Vette(mine) and a WS6. both stock. I don't know if that clears anything up for ya.

FivepointOH · 06-10-2002, 02:37 PM

Yeah that's pretty much what I figured. I did notice the straight shot to the intake... there is a vette running around here that has his liscence plate where it swings up and the cai is behind that, pretty cool.

mysweetlx · 06-10-2002, 04:10 PM

3200lbs for a vette? Really? Is it stripped down? I've heard they're more like 3500lbs stock.

WhiteT78Supra · 06-10-2002, 04:38 PM

mysweetlx,

I would say 3200 pounds sounds about right.

Bob

7up · 06-10-2002, 05:36 PM

Whitet78supra, That's a serious mod list you have there on that Supra. WHat kind of track times are you running? Have you dynoed it or have any estimate on power? I have always liked the twin turbo Supras.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 06-10-2002, 05:47 PM

Yeah man that supra sounds sweet. Are the 93's the new body style or the old one? We have an older model single turbo in auto shop that we were gonna fix up and race it but the project kinda died because i guess it had more problems that we thought since we got it free after it had been wrecked. The new body styles are better anyways

Later,
Nick

7up · 06-10-2002, 06:24 PM

93 is the year they changed the body and added another turbo. I used to have a 90 Supra Turbo, but I had so many problems with it I got rid of it. What was wrong with your project Supra?

EZRIDN · 06-10-2002, 09:45 PM

Supra Bob...Sedanman (jeff) has told me alot about your car. When i was in school in Indiana i used to go to the Steak and Shake and hang out. Too bad i never got to see your ride. Sedanman says its a sweet ride.

Anyways...glad to see you here.

kevknotch88 · 06-10-2002, 10:17 PM

If you go with gears & slicks you had better go with a Ford rear end. Late model camaro's bust the factory rear ends like rubber bands around here. jus my 2 cents.

06-07-2002, 09:04 AM	#1
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	EZRIDN Vs. C5 Crusing last night in the LS1 and i rolled up to a light on the same 3 lane road that i ran the '96 GT on the other night. This road is awesome, just ask sedanman. I see this red C5 (one i have seen at my church) a couple cars ahead of me. Anyways, light changes and i get beside this C5 that is an M6, sounded mean, has racing strips, Roll Bar, Factory crome wheels, an NX sticker on the hatch window, and a couple A pillar gauages. I'm thinking, EZRIDN is about to get killed..ha ha. We exchange glances and smiles and he knows whats up He is a half car behind me and i hear him downshift (M6), and i kicked it when i heard him nail it at around 60. He started to pull instantly. I let off at around 105 when he did and he was about 2.5-3 cars ahead and pulling hard. I slowed down and gave him a thumbs up, and we both waved and headed our own ways. __________________ '86 GT..5 spd....14.0 @ 98 SOLD '87 GT..5 spd...Stock...14.4 @ 97 SOLD '90 GT Conv. A4 Cream Puff...14.6 @ 94 SOLD '99 Z28..A4..Stock stall, no tuning, all motor, full weight 11.92 @ 117.95 SOLD '03 Centennal Edition GT 5 spd. 1 of 620 5 spd coupes made. http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/03/100th.htm Stock..... 2.02 8.9 13.89 @ 99.03 http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/03/100th.htm

06-07-2002, 04:27 PM	#5
ricekilla Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: sinful boys SO CAL Posts: 736	hell yeah, i would put the gears in too. there was a LT1 z28 at the track last saturday w/ pullies, control arms, slicks, cold air, and 3.42 gears going 12.8's on motor and 11.6 on a 150 shot. he was pulling the front tires off the ground in 1st and 2nd gear. you got a LS1! you should be even quicker with the same light mods he had. __________________ 89 GT, 3.55's, longtubes, pro chamber, flowpath dumps, mac uppers and lowers+ pinion snubber, underdrive pullies, 70mm t-body, 190 lph penis pump, mildly home ported E7'S by the kid hisself, nitto drag radials..... 13.4 @ 106......... on nitto drag raidials. spinning like gangbusters...... chevy silverado w/ a full works suzuki RM 250 and a full works honda fourtrax 250R (girlfriends bike) in the back, moto x'in it up bro!

06-09-2002, 06:32 PM	#7
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	What does the C-5 have that the F body LS1 doesn't have other than a better exhaust system? Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

06-09-2002, 07:15 PM	#8
LfiveohX Addicted to the 5.0 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxnard, CA. USA Posts: 117	The C5 Corvette has a more aerodynamic design and weighs a couple hundred pounds less. __________________ 1993 Conv. LX 5.0 - (sold) For Sale!!!! - Brand new Paxton Novi 2000 Kit for 86-93 Mustangs.

06-09-2002, 07:24 PM	#9
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	What are the curb wts. and coefficient of drag. I'm really only curious. I wouldn't have thought that the C-5 was really significantly more areodynamic. Where the heck is Aquaman when we need him, hee, hee? Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe Last edited by Rev; 06-09-2002 at 07:51 PM..

06-09-2002, 06:16 PM	#6
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	Sorry, majority rules BUY GEARS!!!! Well your at it, buy full exhuast, converter, mass air meter, and drag radials. Cause you are gonna need it........

06-10-2002, 11:17 AM	#11
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	Why are the vettes rated with more hp then if they have the same motor? Just chevy under rating the camaros to sell more vettes? EZRIDN: I gotta agree with the majority get the gears!(and a converter!)

06-10-2002, 02:37 PM	#13
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	Yeah that's pretty much what I figured. I did notice the straight shot to the intake... there is a vette running around here that has his liscence plate where it swings up and the cai is behind that, pretty cool.

06-10-2002, 04:10 PM	#14
mysweetlx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 248	3200lbs for a vette? Really? Is it stripped down? I've heard they're more like 3500lbs stock. __________________ Damn this thing's fast!

06-10-2002, 04:38 PM	#15
WhiteT78Supra Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 11	mysweetlx, I would say 3200 pounds sounds about right. Bob __________________ White 93 6spd Supra, targa top, no wing, GReddy T78 turbo, GReddy 4 row intercooler, GReddy/BLITZ shorty D.P. combo, DEI thermal turbine wrap, DEI thermal header / D.P. wrap, GReddy Type R wastegate, GReddy Type R BOV, HKS fuel rail, 720cc injectors, Aeromotive FPR, dual in-tank pumps, APEXi N1, GReddy BCC, GReddy Profec B, HKS VPC, APEXi S-AFC, Greddy 52mm boost gauge, GReddy 52mm EGT gauge, Unorthodox cam gears / underdrive pulleys, GReddy turbo timer, B&M shifter, TRD pressureplate, Arizona clutch, TRD strut bar, 255/45 front and 315/35R17 Nitto drag radials out back, Redline Water Wetter, Brembo cross drilled rotors, and Brembo pads.

06-10-2002, 05:36 PM	#16
7up Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 321	Whitet78supra, That's a serious mod list you have there on that Supra. WHat kind of track times are you running? Have you dynoed it or have any estimate on power? I have always liked the twin turbo Supras. __________________ 91 lx convertible, Vortech a-trim, 2.87 blower pulley. 30lb injectors, 80 mm mass air, 255 fuel pump, flowmaster cat back, bbk long tubes and h pipe 299.3 hp, 355.5 tq(before h-pipe, headers) Ricer Hater's Club-member #16

06-10-2002, 05:47 PM	#17
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	Yeah man that supra sounds sweet. Are the 93's the new body style or the old one? We have an older model single turbo in auto shop that we were gonna fix up and race it but the project kinda died because i guess it had more problems that we thought since we got it free after it had been wrecked. The new body styles are better anyways Later, Nick __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

06-10-2002, 06:24 PM	#18
7up Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 321	93 is the year they changed the body and added another turbo. I used to have a 90 Supra Turbo, but I had so many problems with it I got rid of it. What was wrong with your project Supra? __________________ 91 lx convertible, Vortech a-trim, 2.87 blower pulley. 30lb injectors, 80 mm mass air, 255 fuel pump, flowmaster cat back, bbk long tubes and h pipe 299.3 hp, 355.5 tq(before h-pipe, headers) Ricer Hater's Club-member #16

06-10-2002, 09:45 PM	#19
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	Supra Bob...Sedanman (jeff) has told me alot about your car. When i was in school in Indiana i used to go to the Steak and Shake and hang out. Too bad i never got to see your ride. Sedanman says its a sweet ride. Anyways...glad to see you here. __________________ '86 GT..5 spd....14.0 @ 98 SOLD '87 GT..5 spd...Stock...14.4 @ 97 SOLD '90 GT Conv. A4 Cream Puff...14.6 @ 94 SOLD '99 Z28..A4..Stock stall, no tuning, all motor, full weight 11.92 @ 117.95 SOLD '03 Centennal Edition GT 5 spd. 1 of 620 5 spd coupes made. http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/03/100th.htm Stock..... 2.02 8.9 13.89 @ 99.03 http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/03/100th.htm

06-10-2002, 10:17 PM	#20
kevknotch88 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Athens, WV Posts: 29	If you go with gears & slicks you had better go with a Ford rear end. Late model camaro's bust the factory rear ends like rubber bands around here. jus my 2 cents. __________________ kevknotch88 1988 Coupe 135k BBK uneq, X-Pipe, mac 2.5, pullies, southsides, alum d/s, 3:08's, Tremec, TFS Stage 1 cam, 65 TB, Mass Air, Gt-40 U&L = 13.645 @ 104.61

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