Finally lost....but to a 98 Lingenfelter!

SaleenGTS · 01-24-2001, 10:32 PM

Ok, this hasn't happened in a LOOOOOONG time, but I finally had my @$$ handed to me, but at least it was by a more than worthy opponent.

It happened Monday evening, as I was taking a fat @$$ friend out on a ride(fat as in 240 lbs) The worst part was that he was telling all his friends that my car was the fastest car around....YEAH RIGHT!!! I was on a brand newly surfaced concrete road, and I see this guy I have talked to a few times with a very fine 1998 Lingenfelter 383 C5 Corvette Convertable. I knew he wanted some when he saw me, he kinda gave me this wassup grin, and threw a rev. I was like, you want some boy??? j/k. But I was really telling my bud, "this is one of the fastest cars in town..." I thought well, I might as well see how I can hold up with this 12.2 sec 118 mph 1/4 450 hp monster with 4 3" SS tips, 19" fiske wheeled, mystic airbrushed front ended silver beauty. This car's front had a custom front that was a green/blue/purple airbrushed godzilla ripping through the cars metal....you'd have to see it. N-E WAYZ on to the race...

As we cruised for an opening for about a half mile, we were at about 25 mph.just leaving town on the freeway(Right in my 2nd gear sweet spot) We both nodded, and I hit it! I immediately jumped about a half car, only because he was spinning, I had about a fender lead when I shifted into 3rd, and then he started inching away from me in up to about 5000 in 3rd, where the inching slowed a bit, but by about 5500 in 4th(115-120 mph) he had a solid 2-3 car lead on me. We both pulled over and talked a bit, he told me that my stang gave him his best run yet, with the exception of my old H.S. buddies dad's 99 VT with twin turbos(I ain't kiddind, that car is bad!!! dynoed 875 rwhp)that he said beat him by about 5-6 cars on the turnpike. HE was the coolest C5 guy I had ever met...

He said his expected ET and mph was about a 12.30@116 since it was a heavier vert...MT tested a 98 383 at 12.2@118, so he might be a little underrated on his car.

Ultimately, I was happy for my loss, since I had a 240# passenger, and he had none. I am not sure how close it would have been if I was alone, but I am sure it would have still been atleast a 2 car deficate. Til next time.

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Dustin
1990 Saleen GTSport #14
TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension

60ft: 2.158
660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43
¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

[This message has been edited by SaleenGTS (edited 01-24-2001).]

Fox Body · 01-24-2001, 10:41 PM

Wonderful story Saleen GTS.

Yeah, I think he would've still beat you if you didn't have the 240lb passenger, but it would've been MUCH closer.

In less than a year, when I get into the high 11s, it'll be a different world. Can't wait. (Gotta stop screwin around in the 13s)

“…because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.” ---Revenge of the Nerds

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'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1.5" MAC full length headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) (awaiting installation of 3.55s)
Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.

Lizard King · 01-24-2001, 11:11 PM

This guy in Ottawa is running a ZR1 Lingenfelter at 11.7 on the quarter... that thing is insane.

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Lizard King - 00GT

>> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock.

"I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

SMOKE · 01-25-2001, 07:26 AM

Cool story. Took a Lingenfelter to take ya down though. Great run and the best part ... cool conversation between racers afterwards.

NoSlow5.0 · 01-25-2001, 02:49 PM

Great story, those lingfelter's are nasty os all get up, oh how i want one! My friends Dad said that when he gets his super charger and i finish my mill we will have a friendly go at it. His car, by the way, is #15 1998 shelby series one. It is BAD A$$!!!

Light Em Up!!

exgmguy · 01-26-2001, 06:39 PM

That was a cool story!

I ran a convertible C5 that hung with me pretty good and I was spraying. I got him by about 2 cars by mid 3rd.

It was also a Lingenfelter 383. He was not so cool though. He was pi$$ed. It was a 3 way race with me, an LS1 WS6, and him. The crazy thing is that I lost to the WS6 and still beat the 383!!!!!!!

smooth · 01-27-2001, 06:49 PM

118mph, that is horrible for a built 383. 116mph?!?! bone stock internal ls1s can run that!

SaleenGTS · 01-27-2001, 07:47 PM

So what are you saying? that that car is slow? Not quite sure on your point...

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Dustin
1990 Saleen GTSport #14
TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension

60ft: 2.158
660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43
¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

smooth · 01-28-2001, 05:29 PM

not that it is slow just for someone like lingenfelter who charges ssoooooo much money i'd hope they could turn out some decent packages. get my point?

exgmguy · 01-29-2001, 07:01 AM

I dunno, 118 is pretty damn fast to me.

Remember that Lingenfelter motor is very smooth and streetable. An LS1 with enough work to trap 118 would not be so refined, and warranty friendly.

smooth · 01-29-2001, 05:56 PM

it would be good if it were a budget combo but i'd be willing to bet that guy dished out some serious cash. everything i've seen from lingenfelter has been overpriced by atleast 3x. like 100k for their 650rwhp twin turbo c5: twins, built motor and a clutch for 50k? come on.. a high dollar 383 in a light aerodynamic car should be able to run atleast low 120s. maybe he has a really small cam, mild heads and just wants lots of lowend torque or something.

and i dunno.. i've heard a stage 2 heads/cam ls1 with cats/longtubes and you couldn't even hear the lope. i guarantee it would run right along with that 383 if not walk it.

SaleenGTS · 01-29-2001, 08:27 PM

I see your point, BUT my point was that I pretty much hung with a 116-118 mph car. I am most positive that with a good driver the Coupe would run 120+. Look at the 95 Saleen SR, MT ran it at 117, then MM&FF backed it up with a 122, so as you can see driver errir is a factor. Bottom line I ran a 383 C5 and hung, can't I just be happy with that?

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Dustin
1990 Saleen GTSport #14
TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension

60ft: 2.158
660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43
¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

exgmguy · 01-29-2001, 10:27 PM

Yes you can.

smooth · 01-30-2001, 03:56 AM

definitely, i'd be very happy.

FastBlkz28 · 01-31-2001, 08:00 PM

Nice run that should be around a 8 mph difference I would think you get beat by more but good run. Was his vette a auto or stick? You could put some MTI heads and cams and run high 11's @ 119 for a fraction of the cost Lingenfelter charges.

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01-24-2001, 10:32 PM	#1
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	Finally lost....but to a 98 Lingenfelter! Ok, this hasn't happened in a LOOOOOONG time, but I finally had my @$$ handed to me, but at least it was by a more than worthy opponent. It happened Monday evening, as I was taking a fat @$$ friend out on a ride(fat as in 240 lbs) The worst part was that he was telling all his friends that my car was the fastest car around....YEAH RIGHT!!! I was on a brand newly surfaced concrete road, and I see this guy I have talked to a few times with a very fine 1998 Lingenfelter 383 C5 Corvette Convertable. I knew he wanted some when he saw me, he kinda gave me this wassup grin, and threw a rev. I was like, you want some boy??? j/k. But I was really telling my bud, "this is one of the fastest cars in town..." I thought well, I might as well see how I can hold up with this 12.2 sec 118 mph 1/4 450 hp monster with 4 3" SS tips, 19" fiske wheeled, mystic airbrushed front ended silver beauty. This car's front had a custom front that was a green/blue/purple airbrushed godzilla ripping through the cars metal....you'd have to see it. N-E WAYZ on to the race... As we cruised for an opening for about a half mile, we were at about 25 mph.just leaving town on the freeway(Right in my 2nd gear sweet spot) We both nodded, and I hit it! I immediately jumped about a half car, only because he was spinning, I had about a fender lead when I shifted into 3rd, and then he started inching away from me in up to about 5000 in 3rd, where the inching slowed a bit, but by about 5500 in 4th(115-120 mph) he had a solid 2-3 car lead on me. We both pulled over and talked a bit, he told me that my stang gave him his best run yet, with the exception of my old H.S. buddies dad's 99 VT with twin turbos(I ain't kiddind, that car is bad!!! dynoed 875 rwhp)that he said beat him by about 5-6 cars on the turnpike. HE was the coolest C5 guy I had ever met... He said his expected ET and mph was about a 12.30@116 since it was a heavier vert...MT tested a 98 383 at 12.2@118, so he might be a little underrated on his car. Ultimately, I was happy for my loss, since I had a 240# passenger, and he had none. I am not sure how close it would have been if I was alone, but I am sure it would have still been atleast a 2 car deficate. Til next time. ------------------ Dustin 1990 Saleen GTSport #14 TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension 60ft: 2.158 660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43 ¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best. [This message has been edited by SaleenGTS (edited 01-24-2001).]

01-24-2001, 10:41 PM	#2
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Wonderful story Saleen GTS. Yeah, I think he would've still beat you if you didn't have the 240lb passenger, but it would've been MUCH closer. In less than a year, when I get into the high 11s, it'll be a different world. Can't wait. (Gotta stop screwin around in the 13s) “…because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.” ---Revenge of the Nerds ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1.5" MAC full length headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) (awaiting installation of 3.55s) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.

01-24-2001, 11:11 PM	#3
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	This guy in Ottawa is running a ZR1 Lingenfelter at 11.7 on the quarter... that thing is insane. ------------------ Lizard King - 00GT >> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock. "I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

01-25-2001, 07:26 AM	#4
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 531	Cool story. Took a Lingenfelter to take ya down though. Great run and the best part ... cool conversation between racers afterwards.

01-25-2001, 02:49 PM	#5
NoSlow5.0 YOU HAVE NO MARBLES!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Jonesboro,Georgia,USA (Providence, Ri) Posts: 868	Great story, those lingfelter's are nasty os all get up, oh how i want one! My friends Dad said that when he gets his super charger and i finish my mill we will have a friendly go at it. His car, by the way, is #15 1998 shelby series one. It is BAD A$$!!! Light Em Up!!

01-26-2001, 06:39 PM	#6
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	That was a cool story! I ran a convertible C5 that hung with me pretty good and I was spraying. I got him by about 2 cars by mid 3rd. It was also a Lingenfelter 383. He was not so cool though. He was pi$$ed. It was a 3 way race with me, an LS1 WS6, and him. The crazy thing is that I lost to the WS6 and still beat the 383!!!!!!!

01-27-2001, 06:49 PM	#7
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	118mph, that is horrible for a built 383. 116mph?!?! bone stock internal ls1s can run that!

01-27-2001, 07:47 PM	#8
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	So what are you saying? that that car is slow? Not quite sure on your point... ------------------ Dustin 1990 Saleen GTSport #14 TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension 60ft: 2.158 660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43 ¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

01-28-2001, 05:29 PM	#9
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	not that it is slow just for someone like lingenfelter who charges ssoooooo much money i'd hope they could turn out some decent packages. get my point?

01-29-2001, 07:01 AM	#10
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I dunno, 118 is pretty damn fast to me. Remember that Lingenfelter motor is very smooth and streetable. An LS1 with enough work to trap 118 would not be so refined, and warranty friendly.

01-29-2001, 05:56 PM	#11
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	it would be good if it were a budget combo but i'd be willing to bet that guy dished out some serious cash. everything i've seen from lingenfelter has been overpriced by atleast 3x. like 100k for their 650rwhp twin turbo c5: twins, built motor and a clutch for 50k? come on.. a high dollar 383 in a light aerodynamic car should be able to run atleast low 120s. maybe he has a really small cam, mild heads and just wants lots of lowend torque or something. and i dunno.. i've heard a stage 2 heads/cam ls1 with cats/longtubes and you couldn't even hear the lope. i guarantee it would run right along with that 383 if not walk it.

01-29-2001, 08:27 PM	#12
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	I see your point, BUT my point was that I pretty much hung with a 116-118 mph car. I am most positive that with a good driver the Coupe would run 120+. Look at the 95 Saleen SR, MT ran it at 117, then MM&FF backed it up with a 122, so as you can see driver errir is a factor. Bottom line I ran a 383 C5 and hung, can't I just be happy with that? ------------------ Dustin 1990 Saleen GTSport #14 TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension 60ft: 2.158 660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43 ¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

01-29-2001, 10:27 PM	#13
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Yes you can.

01-30-2001, 03:56 AM	#14
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	definitely, i'd be very happy.

01-31-2001, 08:00 PM	#15
FastBlkz28 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: tampa Posts: 41	Nice run that should be around a 8 mph difference I would think you get beat by more but good run. Was his vette a auto or stick? You could put some MTI heads and cams and run high 11's @ 119 for a fraction of the cost Lingenfelter charges.