Fontana's last day for a while ,timeslip

fastang · 10-08-2001, 09:28 PM

Hi guys, I went to Fontana's last day untill February. It was totaly packed, over 400 cars showed up. I wasnt expecting that because the last time I went they didnt break 200.

My best time before the heads and intake was a 14.1 - 96mph on a 2.0 60ft powershifting.
I got NO traction yesterday and hit a 14.0 at 101mph on a 2.3 60ft GRANNIE shifting it. I spun completely thorugh first and till 5000 in second. Everyone seems to run slower here though. I saw a 97 SS running 14.60's and a fox with a NOVI, headers and a Holley intake hit a 14.1. So I guess it aint all bad. Elevation is around 1800 ft.

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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

Rev · 10-08-2001, 09:44 PM

Sounds like your car is running lots better since the dyno tune. You probably are losing .3 to 60' just from poor traction/launch. I'd bet you're capable of 13.5-13.7 with some drag radials or maybe just a better launch technique.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

fastang · 10-08-2001, 10:33 PM

Rev, Im already running Nitto Drag radials. But theyre skinny 225's and their going bald. My launch technique is to simply slip the clutch. If I dump the clutch at any rpm I spin like crazy. Im going to get a set of MT E.T. streets next. I might step up to 410's too. These puny 355's just arent cutting it.

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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

Rev · 10-08-2001, 11:03 PM

Fastang, lower gears may just make you spin more. Lack of torque to the rear wheels just doesn't sound like what the problem is. Try to do mods that will make you hook first. That's what's limiting you right now.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

LfiveohX · 10-09-2001, 12:17 AM

Fastang - I agree with your observation - when I went on Saturday it seemed like everyone was running alot slower than they should have gone. I made a post about it earlier. There were alot of new (98 & up) LS1 Camaro's and Trans Ams (Manual and Auto's) that were running mostly 13.7 - 14.3! I was very happy with my time. Hopefully I can do a few more mods before it opens back up in January and all of us So. Cal guys can meet up there!

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1993 Conv. LX 5.0, FRPP 302 longblock w/Y303 aluminum heads, E303 cam. 93 cobra intake, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 255lph fuel pump, Aeromotive AFPR, Underdrive pullies, Motorsport ceramic coated shorty headers, Bassani X-pipe w/converters, American Thunder Cat-back, Lentech AOD, Alum. driveshaft, 3.73's. Best E.T. 13.98 @ 99.78mph w/ 2.171 60' (Fontana Dragway 10/06/01)

Skyman · 10-09-2001, 05:38 PM

For comparison sake what kind of trap speeds were the LS1's putting down.

I was expecting to see a lot more than a 101mph trap out of your car with 289rwhp.

It should trap 106.

Maybe the track was just bad. Carlsbad seems to me that it really turns out the MPH.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
332RWHP, 350rwtq

fastang · 10-09-2001, 10:43 PM

Rev, I plan on getting some ET streets with the lower gears.

LfiveohX, Im glad to see that my time was close to yours since we have close mods as well and I spun like crazy. Doesnt make me feel so bad about my 14.0

Sky, What happened? I thought you were going to come down as well. Your right about Carlsbad crunching out the mph. I was hitting 14.4 @ 98 mph there before my heads and when I hit the 14.1 at Bakersfield a month later my mph was only 96!...but I had perfect traction. BTW I hit 282 RWHP.

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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

Skyman · 10-10-2001, 05:28 PM

I thought you got my PM.

Read your private messages.

Still 282rwhp ought to produce better traps. Also theres more HP in that motor for sure.

How much did that dyno cost u btw, im thinking about doing it.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
332RWHP, 350rwtq

fastang · 10-11-2001, 12:45 AM

It will cost you about 500 bucks and that incudes the chip. Its worth the money and the results will be accurate.

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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

10-08-2001, 09:28 PM	#1
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Fontana's last day for a while ,timeslip Hi guys, I went to Fontana's last day untill February. It was totaly packed, over 400 cars showed up. I wasnt expecting that because the last time I went they didnt break 200. My best time before the heads and intake was a 14.1 - 96mph on a 2.0 60ft powershifting. I got NO traction yesterday and hit a 14.0 at 101mph on a 2.3 60ft GRANNIE shifting it. I spun completely thorugh first and till 5000 in second. Everyone seems to run slower here though. I saw a 97 SS running 14.60's and a fox with a NOVI, headers and a Holley intake hit a 14.1. So I guess it aint all bad. Elevation is around 1800 ft. ------------------ 95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

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Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Sounds like your car is running lots better since the dyno tune. You probably are losing .3 to 60' just from poor traction/launch. I'd bet you're capable of 13.5-13.7 with some drag radials or maybe just a better launch technique. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

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fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Rev, Im already running Nitto Drag radials. But theyre skinny 225's and their going bald. My launch technique is to simply slip the clutch. If I dump the clutch at any rpm I spin like crazy. Im going to get a set of MT E.T. streets next. I might step up to 410's too. These puny 355's just arent cutting it. ------------------ 95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

10-08-2001, 11:03 PM	#4
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Fastang, lower gears may just make you spin more. Lack of torque to the rear wheels just doesn't sound like what the problem is. Try to do mods that will make you hook first. That's what's limiting you right now. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

10-09-2001, 12:17 AM	#5
LfiveohX Addicted to the 5.0 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxnard, CA. USA Posts: 117	Fastang - I agree with your observation - when I went on Saturday it seemed like everyone was running alot slower than they should have gone. I made a post about it earlier. There were alot of new (98 & up) LS1 Camaro's and Trans Ams (Manual and Auto's) that were running mostly 13.7 - 14.3! I was very happy with my time. Hopefully I can do a few more mods before it opens back up in January and all of us So. Cal guys can meet up there! ------------------ 1993 Conv. LX 5.0, FRPP 302 longblock w/Y303 aluminum heads, E303 cam. 93 cobra intake, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 255lph fuel pump, Aeromotive AFPR, Underdrive pullies, Motorsport ceramic coated shorty headers, Bassani X-pipe w/converters, American Thunder Cat-back, Lentech AOD, Alum. driveshaft, 3.73's. Best E.T. 13.98 @ 99.78mph w/ 2.171 60' (Fontana Dragway 10/06/01)

10-09-2001, 05:38 PM	#6
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	For comparison sake what kind of trap speeds were the LS1's putting down. I was expecting to see a lot more than a 101mph trap out of your car with 289rwhp. It should trap 106. Maybe the track was just bad. Carlsbad seems to me that it really turns out the MPH. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor *332RWHP, 350rwtq*

10-09-2001, 10:43 PM	#7
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Rev, I plan on getting some ET streets with the lower gears. LfiveohX, Im glad to see that my time was close to yours since we have close mods as well and I spun like crazy. Doesnt make me feel so bad about my 14.0 Sky, What happened? I thought you were going to come down as well. Your right about Carlsbad crunching out the mph. I was hitting 14.4 @ 98 mph there before my heads and when I hit the 14.1 at Bakersfield a month later my mph was only 96!...but I had perfect traction. BTW I hit 282 RWHP. ------------------ 95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

10-10-2001, 05:28 PM	#8
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I thought you got my PM. Read your private messages. Still 282rwhp ought to produce better traps. Also theres more HP in that motor for sure. How much did that dyno cost u btw, im thinking about doing it. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor *332RWHP, 350rwtq*

10-11-2001, 12:45 AM	#9
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