Is Giggle Juice Fair?
 

What's your guys' take on the use of NOS to boost power/reduce ET's?

To me it almost seems like cheatin. :eek:
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Dean
1989 PAS Turbo T/A #1233
*12.93@104mph 3.8 V-6 / No NOS
1987 Grand National

http://www.krif.com/tta/

http://www.krif.com/tta/TTA/TTA%20Emblem%20Small.jpg

hey anything's legal as long as you don't get caught!! Poor it on, and hide it well I say.

Street?
 

On the street, it's "run what you brung". Anything is fair on the street IMHO.

Rev

Just as fair as your turbo.

Theres no such thing as unfair, BTW, I dont like your choices so Im not votin.

Skyler

Re: N2O
 

You show me a street racing rulebook, and we'll see. Until then, all's fair!:D

Nitrous is only unfair to those that loose to a car that uses it. To me power is power. if you get it froma turbo supercahrger or nitrous or even go all motor its power.

I myself prefer turbochargers to most others and my preference on nitrous is limited....its just not something i will use.

One thing i learned about on my last car....with Turbocahrgers and superchargers there is another great alternative to Nitrous to make more power. Propane injection. Dynamic Racing is the first company to actually off it as a kit for Stealth TT/3000GT VR-4's

It allows you to run more boost without having to run Race gas. and Propanes expansion rate of 270 gas to 1 part liquid means it will last one hell of a long time. Plus you cang et propane at the local grocery store. :D

Anyone that mentions street racing and fair in the same sentence needs to get a clue it is and always has been run what you brung.

If I have slicks and you dont thats your problem.

If I have 8 cylinders to your 4 thats your problem.

I lost to a crx a few months ago, he was spraying nitrous. All I had to say was nice run.

Any of you that share the ricer oipinion that nitrous or any other mod is cheating. Shoot yourself your a loser:o

My cars are factory turbo cars. I don't know of any factory cars that came with Nitrous. That's comparing apples to oranges.

So it's fair to say that turbo's aren't cheating but nitrous is? :rolleyes: Run what you brung, and hope you brung more than me. Cuz if i pulled up beside you at a light and i heard a blowoff valve or a big turbo spooling up you damn well better believe i'm gonna put the jug to ya.

But your car sure didnt come with 20psi from the factory, or that adjutable boost controller that you used to increase your boost. Better quick take em off :).


Nitrous is cheap easy HP, just gotta make sure you tune it right, no reason its cheating.

Skyler

Yea take them off. and just go buy a $6 bleeder valve at wal-mart that does the same thing. :rolleyes:

No, my objection to the turbo vs. nitrous comparison (with respect to my cars) is the fact nitrous oxide is an add on, my cars came factory with a turbocharger. That's an apples to oranges comparison is all.

As far as the boost, my GN is still at factory 15psi. My TTA was upped from 16.5 factory to it's present 20lbs. The adjustable wastegate actuator was factory also.

I suppose my point is that N02 is like strapping 1000 Estes rocket engines on the back of your car and lighting them for a run, then having to go to the hobby shop to get more to make a fast run. Without them you can't make a decent go...

Nitrous engines run just as well without the bottle as they do with. Well most of them anyway. So your saying that nitrous motors can't win without the bottle??? I've got an all motor nova that traps mid 6's in the 1/8th. So your saying that it still won't run because without the bottle it's a pig?

If nitrous engines run just as well without, what's the point of having it?

I'm just N02 challenged and need edumacation.
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Dean
1989 PAS Turbo T/A #1233
*12.93@104mph 3.8 V-6
1987 Grand National

http://www.krif.com/tta/

http://www.krif.com/tta/TTA/TTA1233.GIF

You took that wrong, this is a pointless argument.

Skyler

I'm not arguing with anyone. This is spirited, non-inflamitory, intelligent debate.

I'm just trying to understand "Nitrous engines run just as well without the bottle as they do with. Well most of them anyway."

Personally I think N02 is a flimsy way to make a car "fast". Just my opinion. I don't see any compelling reasons here to feel otherwise....yet.

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Dean
1989 PAS Turbo T/A #1233
*12.93@104mph 3.8 V-6
1987 Grand National

http://www.krif.com/tta/

http://www.krif.com/tta/TTA/TTA1233.GIF

Nos is the poor man's supercharger. Not everyone can afford a $3500 Pro Charger. But a couple hundred for a Nos kit is not out of reach.

The guy that does most of the work on my car specializes in GN's and TTA's so I'm around all different types of thier owners. It's amazing how many of them think a simple uping of the boost or running a downpipe still makes their cars stock. If you mention running nitrous, it's cheating no matter how you slice it.

Now that makes sense. Plus it's the most down to earth and realistic point of view I've read yet. Keep'em coming....
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Dean
1989 PAS Turbo T/A #1233
*12.93@104mph 3.8 V-6
1987 Grand National

http://www.krif.com/tta/

http://www.krif.com/tta/TTA/TTA1233.GIF

Agreed. I've seen many debates about what constitutes a "stock" or "factory" car. My TTA's admittedly not stock (chip, downpipe, no cat, boost to 20lbs, Firestones, that's it) and as mentioned before came from the factory with an adjustable wastegate. My GN on the otherhand is totally original, which I consider stock. That's a topic for another thread.

As far as the Nitrous goes, it still seems weak way to get a good ET.
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Dean
1989 PAS Turbo T/A #1233
*12.93@104mph 3.8 V-6
1987 Grand National

http://www.krif.com/tta/

http://www.krif.com/tta/TTA/TTA1233.GIF