Good Reading For Ricers

[NateDogg]

Have you ever wanted to argue with muscle car owners and assert the
superiority of your own car, but found this to be difficult because you had
a slow car, relatively little automotive knowledge, and underdeveloped
communications skills? Well, now you can still get V8 owners angry anyway,
by following these simple rules which cover most of the situations you may
find yourself in during online or face to face arguments.

1. Image
Remember, your image is extremely important as a riceboy. Therefore, make
every effort to point out how popular the rice scene is. Appeal to how many
people are building cars like yours. Brag about how the import scene is more
than just a trend; it's a revolution. The urge to conform is a powerful
force, and use it to your advantage whenever possible.

2. Opinions
In a debate, your opinions count as much as real facts. If you think that
Mustangs are ugly, that counts for just as much against them as being a
whole second faster in the quarter mile. Remember, facts take time to look
up, whereas opinions only take seconds to dream up.

3. Horsepower
To estimate your own car's horsepower, take the stock hp rating, and add in
the highest estimated power gain from each mod you have done. To estimate
the horsepower of an American car, take its stock horsepower rating, and
deduct 10 to 25 hp for it being a POS. Make no adjustments for mods.
Remember, Japanese horsepower is better quality than the horsepower found in
an American car. If you don't know how much horsepower an American car has,
assume it has either 30 hp per liter, or 200 hp, whichever is less. If you
only have the engine size in cubic inches and don't know how to convert it
to liters, make up for this by talking about how much English units suck.
You can never emphasize hp/liter ratios too much. Always brag about how this
is more efficient, and just ignore ignorant comments like, "Well, the S2000
makes 120 hp per liter, but it guzzles gas like a V8!" People who make these
comments just don't understand that Japanese cars are always more efficient
just because they are Japanese, and Japanese have more efficient technology.
If somebody reminds you that your car still has less horsepower, talk about
what would happen if Honda built a V8 with the same specific output as a
Type R, or about what kind of performance a Mustang would have if it had
only half the engine size. Some domestic trivia buffs may be able to come up
with examples of small, high performance American engines. Just ignore these
remarks; you're not likely to win if you try arguing about such cars.
Concentrate on V8's instead.

4. Weight
Assume all imports weigh approximately 2,500 lbs, including Eclipses and
Supras. Extremely lightweight cars like the CRX and Miata are exceptions.
These should be assumed to weigh under 2,000 lbs. Assume all domestics weigh
over 3,200 lbs at least, preferably over 3,800 lbs. The exceptions are
really huge cars, such as the Chevy Impala or Crown Vics. These land yachts
should be assumed to weigh over 5,000 lbs. If a domestic owner mentions
something which you have no choice but to admit can't weigh that much, make
fun of whatever POS he's come up with, and claim nobody in his right mind
would want to be seen in something so ugly. See section 8, Pintos.
Never, ever actually look up the curb weight of a car. If you make up your
own weight figures, you can make the difference in weight look all that much
more impressive. Constantly brag about power to weight ratios and how
imports are better in that respect, even if somebody does the math and
proves that many stock domestics have better power to weight ratios than
your car.

5. Handling
Japanese cars handle better than American ones, and small FWD American cars
handle better than pony cars. This is to be taken as an article of faith;
you don't need any evidence to claim this, and shouldn't bother trying to
bring up any evidence. Most domestic owners are primarily concerned with
drag racing, so they seldom study enough about handling to argue this point.
If someone does attempt to argue this, reply with some mumbo jumbo about how
solid axles date back to the days of horse drawn wagons, and leave it at
that. Do this even if your own car has a solid axle rear suspension. Also
emphasize that light weight means better handling. See section 4, Weight.
Emphasize that a large V8 up front makes for poor weight distribution, and
neglect the fact that FWD cars frequently have even worse weight
distribution.

6. Milage
Brag about how much more mileage your car gets as often as possible. This is
one area where you can be relatively certain your car performs better than
muscle cars. The fact that muscle car owners usually don't care too much
about mileage doesn't matter. Some may be content to get 25 mpg or so with a
modern fuel injected pony car, so claim without proof that their cars really
get 16 mpg or worse. Assume that older big block muscle cars get less than
one mile per gallon. Always use city mileage estimates for domestics, and
highway mileage estimates for imports, to make the gap seem as large as
possible.

[NateDogg]

7. Quality control and reliability
American cars should be presumed to be built to 1978 levels of quality
control. When you wish to demonstrate how much more reliable your car is,
use either Consumer Reports or an account of some American car built in the
late 70's or early 80's that some family member owned and afterwards swore
never to by another American car. Brag about how your car is going to last
150,000 miles, and state that none of the domestics owned by your critics
will last that long, even if some of them have somehow managed to keep a
domestic car on the road for over 200,000 miles with an unrebuilt engine.
Remember, closing your mind is your best defense about being confused by
facts.

8. Pintos
The Pinto should be used as an example of how badly built American cars are.
Treat all American compact cars as modern day descendants of the Pinto.
Ignore any comments about sick minded people who have either raced Pintos or
stuffed V8's into them, or people with a sick devotion to meaningless trivia
who have memorized such obscure data as the fact that only 27 Pintos ever
caught fire due to being rear ended. Remember, image is what counts here,
not reality. Pintos have a horrible reputation, and you should use it for
all it's worth.

9. Progress and technology
It's an indisputable fact that cars have become better built, more powerful,
and more reliable since the late 70's. Since you were probably born sometime
in the late 70's or early 80's, what was built before then doesn't count
anyway, so you can safely assume that newer is always better. Remember, many
American V8's were designed even before the 70's, so they must be even worse
than the cars designed in that decade.
Never pass up an opportunity to mention any kind of technology found in your
car that is not found in traditional American muscle cars. It doesn't matter
how useful or useless this technology is, if it was invented by the
Japanese, or even if you have a clue as to what it does; proclaim it to be a
sign of Japanese technological superiority. However, you should at least
make an effort to spell the name of the innovation correctly.

10. Street racing
The best way to estimate the performance of your car is by what you've been
able to beat in a street race. Your kill stories should have the best spin
on them possible. For example, if you drive past a parked Corvette, claim
you found a Corvette and blew by it like it was standing still. They don't
have to know that it really was standing still. Or race vehicles such as
dump trucks and conversion vans so you can claim you beat an American V8.
Never post a timeslip if you can avoid it.

11. Magazines
Study up well on magazines like Consumer Reports and Super Street. They
provide great arguing material. It's best to avoid magazines that cater to
the enemy. Don't even touch books that cover serious, in-depth analysis of
engine or chassis tuning. Your status as a riceboy is at stake here.

12. When all else fails
If you can't refute anything the people you are arguing with say, call them
rednecks and/or accuse them of being gay. These will get them angry without
actually requiring you to think about their arguements.

[KillerStang]

that is some funny ****

[95mustanggt]

Serious Rice Hater's Potencial here........

[GodStang]

I guess that bring up the point about "what if honda put a v8 in there cars with there technology like the type R". Ford did that with the FR500 and it was extremly fast. But I guess it does not count because it was american. Ford does not do that because it would cost too much money. Think how much ricer's would cost if they put v8s in.
I actually had a guy tell me his car is faster because it was Heavier. He said heavier things go faster. I smiled and said ok.

That was a good article. So much truth to it.

[*Steeda90GT*]

lol, good stuff. Where in NJ are you from and what do you drive? Also how can I become a member of the rice haters cloub?

[NateDogg]

Steeda90GT, I live in northwest new jersey (on the border of sussex and morris county to be exact ) , i had a 1994 mustang GT, which i had to sell but, im saving for a fox body. If you go into the "user rides" and type 'NateDogg' under the user name search, youll see pictures of my former
sn-95

[SlowGT]

Hey NateDogg,
Did you get to go to E-town for the Detroit vs Imports two weeks back? You going down for Mustangs vs Buicks?

[*Steeda90GT*]

I did, and I'll be going down this Sat for mustang showdown. We should all meet up.