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Ackbar00 05-14-2003 03:22 PM

Got to love Ricers!!
 
The Race!!!

http://www.illz.net/E46_M3_VS_Eclipse_GSX.wmv

and the aftermath....

http://sys12.cs.jmu.edu/hawleycj/vids/aftermath-low.WMV


I got this from another board. I could not resist!!

gofastmercury 05-14-2003 07:31 PM

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Jaegermeister2k 05-14-2003 08:18 PM

At first i thought an accident happened when i read"The race" and "the aftermath" but i saw the video and i was kinda happy no one was injured,but i still don't wish those things to anyone,not even riceboys.

1jimmy__d 05-14-2003 08:51 PM

i only had audio but i laughed my *** off!

"MY DAD IS GOING TO BE PISSED"!!!!!!!

20LbsBoost 05-14-2003 10:38 PM

What a couple of phucking morons. Only ricers would document their utter stupidity on video then post it on the net.

I love the shot where the cameramoron is holding the connecting rod and says "here is another uhhhh.....top, or bottom". He also needs to paint his nails since he grows his pinky fingernail longer than most women.

wolverine1 05-14-2003 10:53 PM

Rice crap HA HA HA HA HA:D

Ackbar00 05-15-2003 06:49 AM

wolverine1 - I bet you think you are pretty cool in that cobra dont you? That thing is PPPPHHHHAAAAATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 thumbs up! Whatever you want to say! Do me a favor? Email me some pics Ackbar00@aol.com


Jaegermeister2k - I agree that I never wish bad things upon (most) people. But I love how they were talking **** about the M3 and then blow the motor up right in front of him. I bet he drove by laughing his ***** off!


20LbsBoost - "What a couple of phucking morons. Only ricers would document their utter stupidity on video then post it on the net."
Yep, What you said.

tireburner163 05-15-2003 11:05 AM

I don't see how he is a ricer:confused:

Did you see that turbo? That's not stock. I've seen the other post on this car. It was probably pushing close to 400hp at the flywheel. The bottom end's of these cars are known for their weekness. It was just a matter of time before it let go.

Is he a ricer for posting it on the net? Oh my, if your right we better call anyone on this site who's ever posted a pic of a broken part a ricer.:eek: I knew it all along, that damn 88workcar is nothing but a ricer:rolleyes:

Import.......ricer. There's a difference

Ackbar00 05-15-2003 01:08 PM

OK, Mabey he is not a ricer but, he is a dipzhit. Leaving on the factory revlimiter is a bad thing. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt the factory rev limiter like pull fuel and timing out? And he was launching on that! I just like the fact that the are all cocky and then he says that "his parents are going to kill him." Now dont get me wrong, I got the Dumbazz of the year award for breaking a axle, at work, in front of 50 people, trying to do a burnout on DR's. But I cant be a ricer, because I drive a Mustang. Right??:D

1969Mach1 05-15-2003 01:14 PM

Funny stuff.... lmao... it did look pretty quick though. It pulled from that BMW pretty fast. And my dad is going to pissed comment was hillarious. First thing I would say. lol :D :D

-Sam.

Miss Mischief 05-15-2003 02:58 PM

Can you say moron?

20LbsBoost 05-15-2003 03:43 PM

What's the definition of "ricer" anyway? I use the term to mean any completely clueless auto enthusiast who watched The Fast & The Furious too many times and thinks something with stickers and a fart can is fast. In this case I believe the word fits to a T.

302 LX Eric 05-15-2003 03:53 PM

Didn't the engine blow while at the top of 3rd gear? I don't think it went south on launch.

Also, I don't even think the BMW was racing? It was hard to tell for sure.

I actually feel bad for the kid.

The funny part was when the passenger kept saying: "was that your engine?!?! was that your engine?!!?!?" Like, no dude, it was a flat tire.....of course it was the engine!

E

Miss Mischief 05-15-2003 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 302 LX Eric
Didn't the engine blow while at the top of 3rd gear? I don't think it went south on launch.

Also, I don't even think the BMW was racing? It was hard to tell for sure.

I actually feel bad for the kid.

The funny part was when the passenger kept saying: "was that your engine?!?! was that your engine?!!?!?" Like, no dude, it was a flat tire.....of course it was the engine!

E

Listen to the second Rev out before Launch you can hear Her tell Him she isnt tight..... On that Rev I wouldn't have launched ......

srv1 05-15-2003 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
What's the definition of "ricer" anyway? I use the term to mean any completely clueless auto enthusiast who watched The Fast & The Furious too many times and thinks something with stickers and a fart can is fast. In this case I believe the word fits to a T.
Couldnt define it better myself!

First off, you know he wasnt running any retard device(besides himself) to adjust for the boost. He had head studs, so i assume whoever built the motor, didnt know what they were doing or the kid didnt have the right ignition.

I dont think it was his parents car. Why would a parent beef up an Eclipse? I think it was his.

Ackbar00. You might have done something dumb, but at least you didnt video tape your stupidity!:D

Yes i think RICER fits this guy like a glove!:D


James

gofastmercury 05-15-2003 08:58 PM

We're not going to fight over this ricer thing again, are we?? I think last we did it was a 3 pager.

without seeing the outside of the car, I don't think ricer really fits this guy. It wasn't a stock lowered car with stickers and a wing. It left that M3 pretty fast, it looked to me like he was racing too. And as far as posting it, its hard to let every one see that you srcewed up, I don't hold it agaist him, but still......

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ...........


PS, (IN MY OPINION) Yes you can drive a mustang and be a ricer.

20LbsBoost 05-15-2003 09:00 PM

What evidence in the video convinces you the M3 was racing? I see nothing indicating a race.

RED92LX50 05-16-2003 07:30 AM

"What evidence in the video convinces you the M3 was racing? I see nothing indicating a race."

I think you could tell the M3 was racing by the guy in the Eclipse flashing his hazzards after he got in front!:D

Ackbar00 05-16-2003 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by srv1

First off, you know he wasnt running any retard device(besides himself)

Ackbar00. You might have done something dumb, but at least you didnt video tape your stupidity!:D

That is a classic quote!!!

I glad no one did film it. Then it might end up on a import forum!:eek:

RED92LX50 05-16-2003 11:05 AM

Um, I was joking... guess it's hard to tell sometimes.

You know, the way they flash hazzards after a Ricer-flyby to show that they owned you - even if you weren't racing. At least in this case hazzards would be appropriate:)

this is not cbring 05-16-2003 05:39 PM

he modded his car and it blew up, no big deal.........

sometimes that is what it takes to learn......

happens to both import and domestic "tuners"

20LbsBoost 05-16-2003 07:29 PM

Yup, that it does. However the term "ricer" still applies and as I stated earlier it matters not if they're driving an import or domestic.

this is not cbring 05-16-2003 08:15 PM

my comments were made in general. i never said anything about the term "ricer"

20LbsBoost 05-16-2003 08:39 PM

Yes they were made in general, and I never said you used the term "ricer".

tireburner163 05-18-2003 12:20 PM

The M3 was racing. If you watch the vid you can see that the M3 does nail it off the line. If you think that M3 even stood a chance you need to look up how fast AWD turbo Eclipses and Talons are.

As far as launching, that's the way you do it with those cars. If you want a good hole shot, you've gotta do that. Either way, the launch had nothing to do with the motor going, that would just blow the tranny(which he had done 2 weeks earlier. That's why he said "Here's my tranny test")

That car is modded pretty good, he pushing about 400hp. The bottom ends are notorusly weak, so it's not that's surprizing that he blew the bottom end, even he admits it was just a matter of time. As far as him not knowing jack about his car.....er......he's the one that's got it torn down in his driveway. Looks like he knows his stuff. And I don't know about you, but if I blew the motor in my GT my parents would be mad, would I still pay for it, oh hell yes. but they'd still be pissed.

So get off the kids back, he blew his car. BFD, lots of people on this board have broken their car. He'd probably have no problem dispatching lots of mustangs on this board.

Miss Mischief 05-18-2003 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163


As far as launching, that's the way you do it with those cars. If you want a good hole shot, you've gotta do that. Either way, the launch had nothing to do with the motor going, that would just blow the tranny(which he had done 2 weeks earlier. That's why he said "Here's my tranny test")


I hate to disagree but on this one point i will i have raced a 351 LX Fox Body of the line since the mid 90's I always listened for a "flat" spot when I tach up to my engines to its "holding" RPM before the tree drops i give it a test . Pause then when the lights come up I bring it back up to holding and if I am not satisfied with the sound of the engine in either taching I will not launch the car.
It was Obvious to me when he brought his car up to 1,000+ RPM the first time and Held that it hit a Flat spot happened it did the same on the second he shouldnt have launched. Live and Learn.......

20LbsBoost 05-18-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
The M3 was racing.
It was? Again, I ask for ANY shred of evidence the M3 was racing. What I see is the fact the guy gets a green light and rolls his car forward like anyone. The nose doesn't even lift. Last I knew when someone stabs the accelerator the front end comes up, even in a slow M3.

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
If you think that M3 even stood a chance you need to look up how fast AWD turbo Eclipses and Talons are.
I don't street race to insane speeds to see what one of those high HP/low torque cars do, but I can say I've never met one at a stoplight that's given me any trouble.

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
That car is modded pretty good, he pushing about 400hp.
400 HP huh?...that's from a dyno sheet or figuring it by a HP calculator based on 1/4 mile times and ET's I presume. Or is it an "educated guess"?

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
As far as him not knowing jack about his car.....er......he's the one that's got it torn down in his driveway. Looks like he knows his stuff.
Having it torn apart in the driveway is NO evidence anyone knows about engines. What it DOES prove is that someone can use a screwdriver and ratchet. Anyone can take a car apart.

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
So get off the kids back, he blew his car. BFD, lots of people on this board have broken their car.
No, he deserves all this ribbing for video taping his car grenading while street racing against a car that wasn't racing him. It's the laughing stock of many message boards.

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
He'd probably have no problem dispatching lots of mustangs on this board.
VERY doubtful, let alone any of my V-6's.

Miss Mischief 05-18-2003 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
It was? Again, I ask for ANY shred of evidence the M3 was racing. What I see is the fact the guy gets a green light and rolls his car forward like anyone. The nose doesn't even lift. Last I knew when someone stabs the accelerator the front end comes up, even in a slow M3.



VERY doubtful, let alone any of my V-6's.

The M-3 got the hole shot ...

Why is it so doubtful a well built AWD would'nt beat a mustang?

I always bealive the driver is the Octane of the fuel not the car.

Stang_Crazy 05-18-2003 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Miss Mischief
The M-3 got the hole shot ...
It did?? :rolleyes:

srv1 05-18-2003 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost


Having it torn apart in the driveway is NO evidence anyone knows about engines. What it DOES prove is that someone can use a screwdriver and ratchet. Anyone can take a car apart.

No, he deserves all this ribbing for video taping his car grenading while street racing against a car that wasn't racing him. It's the laughing stock of many message boards.


I agree. If he knew anything about cars, then why would you go to the trouble to put head studs in if you know the bottom end cant handle it? Besides, i doubt he had a 2 step. Sounds like he was showing off by bumping the stock limiter. I didnt see any device in the engine bay.

Besides, a Tubo AWD vs. a RWD N/A M3, why would you need to rev the living piss out of it? Grant him he is young, but deserves what he got.

James

Special K 05-19-2003 09:12 AM

The guy is using a two step revlimiter to launch. Thats it. He is not bouncing the "real" rev limiter.

tireburner163 05-19-2003 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
It was? Again, I ask for ANY shred of evidence the M3 was racing. What I see is the fact the guy gets a green light and rolls his car forward like anyone. The nose doesn't even lift. Last I knew when someone stabs the accelerator the front end comes up, even in a slow M3.
You can see the M3 take the jump for a second, just before he gets smoked. You can see the front of the car jump forward. I'm sorry the M3 isn't a buick and didn't wallow back on the wheels so that you knew he was racing:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
I don't street race to insane speeds to see what one of those high HP/low torque cars do, but I can say I've never met one at a stoplight that's given me any trouble.
Oh yea, insane speeds. I know what you talking about, racing up to 3rd gear is WAY too much. Next time I race I'll have to make sure I keep my GT in 2nd gear so I don't reach "insane speeds":rolleyes: Just because you've never ran into one, doesn't mean they don't exist.

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
400 HP huh?...that's from a dyno sheet or figuring it by a HP calculator based on 1/4 mile times and ET's I presume. Or is it an "educated guess"?
It is a educated guess, based on me seeing his mods on other boards and making a estimate as to what his hp is based on what other turbo Eclipses and Talons have made with simmilar mods. Yea, bet I'm the first person ever to do that:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
Having it torn apart in the driveway is NO evidence anyone knows about engines. What it DOES prove is that someone can use a screwdriver and ratchet. Anyone can take a car apart.
I know a guy. Nice guy, but he doesn't know a whole lot about cars. He just likes driving his GT. Now his car started knocking. Did he take it apart in his driveway to see what was wrong with it, HELL NO, he took it to the shop to get it fixed. Why in the hell would this guy tear into his motor if he didn't know what he was doing?

Also what proves that he DOESN'T know about cars. Quit sterotyping people. He could be a SAE mechanic for all you know.

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
No, he deserves all this ribbing for video taping his car grenading while street racing against a car that wasn't racing him. It's the laughing stock of many message boards.
Oh yea, any body that posts pics or vid of broken car parts must be a idiot ricer moron.:rolleyes: Pokey 5.0, that pic you posed of your block being split down the middle, I take it back, your just a loser ricer. And 88WorkCar, I'm sorry but that pic of that broken rocker arm makes you a ricer, sucks to be you. And that T-type that broke at the track Friday night, oh God, what a ricer.:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally posted by 20LbsBoost
VERY doubtful, let alone any of my V-6's.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, ignorant people are the funniest ones. That car would have no problem owning many cars on this board. Especially in a street race where often times the race is less than 1/4th mile. Let alone one of your V-6's? Aren't you just special. 1) my GT could take you GN back when I first got it. 2) my GT can take that big bad TTA now. Oh wait, N2O is cheating right. Damn. Oh well, you can yell at my tail-lights:)

Dark_5.0 05-19-2003 10:16 AM

Those of you that have never raced an AWD DSM need a reality check.

It is not uncommon at all for them to pull low 1.6 60ft's on street tires.

The M3 was racing if he wasnt he wouldnt have even been in the picture.

There was nothing wrong with his car when he launched it. The motor didnt blow till the boost built up.

I raced one with mild mods and he very nearly handed me my *** and my car isnt slow. He had me by 2 1/2 cars right from the jump and I was most definitely racing.

tireburner163 05-19-2003 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by srv1
I agree. If he knew anything about cars, then why would you go to the trouble to put head studs in if you know the bottom end cant handle it?
So you asking why he would replace his head bolts, with head studs and not install a forged bottom end? Oh I dunno, maybe because studs are only a few bucks more than bolts and yanking the motor and installing a forged bottom end would cost thousands. It's kinda like having a 500hp 5.0 on the stock block. You know it's gonna go eventully, but you don't have 1300 for a Dart block. Same thing. Doesn't mean he's a moron when it comes to cars

xspeed02 05-23-2003 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Those of you that have never raced an AWD DSM need a reality check.
Dark has a point here, AWD DSMs have serious balls off the line. I've only raced 1 the entire time I've had my car (4 years) but back when I was stock he left the line at 5k and I didn't have enough space to chase him down, don't even know if I could have in a reasonable amount of time. These cars are very fast for very little money, on the flip side, stock internals can only take that much boost for so long, I've seen plenty DSMs crank walk and this sounds like another story of trying to get too much power without taking the necessary precautions.

srv1 05-23-2003 05:25 PM

Quote:

So you asking why he would replace his head bolts, with head studs and not install a forged bottom end? Oh I dunno, maybe because studs are only a few bucks more than bolts and yanking the motor and installing a forged bottom end would cost thousands. It's kinda like having a 500hp 5.0 on the stock block. You know it's gonna go eventully, but you don't have 1300 for a Dart block. Same thing. Doesn't mean he's a moron when it comes to cars
Ok Josh. I think you just answered your own question. Why dont you put head studs in your stock block, throw a turbo in it, run it to say 15lbs of boost, and leave the bottom end totally stock. Now would that make any sense? Nope. You know the bottom end cant handle it, so why would you put studs in it then? Because your SAE(ASE just to correct you) mechanic didnt know how to build the motor or know enough that stock USA bottom end Mitsu's cant handle that much power. If he wanted to do it right, there would be a JDM block under that hood which can take that boost level. Evidentally he has his "collection" and his nice "head studs" to show for it.

Everybody makes mistakes, but to show your stupidity over the net is asking for it. Its one thing if he posted about it, but the kid tried to show off and made himself look like an ***. If he knew anything, he wouldnt be racing that Bimmer in the first place. Why would you have to use a 2 step(It didnt sound like one to me)on the street with AWD against a BMW? The kid was being a kid and deserved to get his balls busted.

Oh by the way, 20lbs is cocky, but at least he has something to back it up with. Your Stang cant Hang with that Buick V6.

Quote:

These cars are very fast for very little money, on the flip side, stock internals can only take that much boost for so long, I've seen plenty DSMs crank walk and this sounds like another story of trying to get too much power without taking the necessary precautions.
Thank you. That is all I was trying to say.

James

tireburner163 05-23-2003 06:16 PM

SRV1: How is he any different than heads/cam/intake/bolt on/blower 5.0? That's too much power for the stock block. But lots of people do it.

Why did he launch it so high? 1) those cars make tiny amounts of torque, you have to launch them high to get them off the line quick. 2) He had just gotten a new tranny and limited slips installed. If you watch the video you can hear him say "Well, here's my tranny test."

So he posted a vid, big whoop. He showed what happened to his car. How is that any different than Pokey 5.0 posting pics of his block split down the middle?

My stang can't take one of 20lbs turbo V-6's? HA!!!! I need to change it, but all mods in sig are now installed. I could take the GN N/A and more than likey edge out the TTA when I open the giggle gas (but that's cheating:rolleyes: )

this is not cbring 05-23-2003 06:46 PM

tell me about these jdm block dsm's:confused:

xspeed02 05-23-2003 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is not cbring
tell me about these jdm block dsm's:confused:
What exactly are you asking about? I know of some guys that swap in JDM motors (like my friend that swapped his h22a1 for a h22a, 4th gen prelude) but I can't imagine a JDM DSM motor being any stronger. However, do they even make JDM DSM blocks? I'm not sure if they manufactured DSM's over there or not. I have knowledge of import racing but not to the extent that I could answer that type of question. :D

this is not cbring 05-23-2003 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xspeed02
What exactly are you asking about? I know of some guys that swap in JDM motors (like my friend that swapped his h22a1 for a h22a, 4th gen prelude) but I can't imagine a JDM DSM motor being any stronger. However, do they even make JDM DSM blocks? I'm not sure if they manufactured DSM's over there or not. I have knowledge of import racing but not to the extent that I could answer that type of question. :D
that is pretty much my point. from what i understand (which may not be completely accurate), dsm = diamond star motors. the diamond star motors plant is in Normal, Illinois. if it wasn't built in Normal, then it isn't a DSM. therefore there really aren't JDM blocks. there are JDM versions of that motor (the 4g63) that went into the Evolutions, but i really haven't heard of swapping in an evo block.

a common swap, however, is to replace the 2nd generation motor (7 bolt) that is known to "crankwalk" with a 6 bolt motor from the first generation DSM's. most people don't do this swap until they blow the 7 bolt motor. some may consider it dumb to build the 7 bolt, without upgrading to the 6 bolt. personally, i'd consider it a waste of resources to swap out a perfectly fine 7 bolt just because it might crankwalk in the future.

Ackbar00 05-24-2003 12:06 AM

Why do Jap car engines have to have such puss names? I mean h22r43, b16, I8a50, BIgd8, LILpecker, what the shhit is that? At least american engines have, 5.0, LS1, 427, hemi.

this is not cbring 05-24-2003 08:15 AM

DSM's aren't "Jap" cars

i have asked the same thing about the engine codes. the toyota engine codes are confusing as sin

srv1 05-24-2003 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is not cbring
that is pretty much my point. from what i understand (which may not be completely accurate), dsm = diamond star motors. the diamond star motors plant is in Normal, Illinois. if it wasn't built in Normal, then it isn't a DSM. therefore there really aren't JDM blocks. there are JDM versions of that motor (the 4g63) that went into the Evolutions, but i really haven't heard of swapping in an evo block.

a common swap, however, is to replace the 2nd generation motor (7 bolt) that is known to "crankwalk" with a 6 bolt motor from the first generation DSM's. most people don't do this swap until they blow the 7 bolt motor. some may consider it dumb to build the 7 bolt, without upgrading to the 6 bolt. personally, i'd consider it a waste of resources to swap out a perfectly fine 7 bolt just because it might crankwalk in the future.

go here:jdm1
and here:jdm2
and here is what you are talking about:EVO

Oh and your "American" DSM's arent reallly American:DSM

James

xspeed02 05-24-2003 10:02 AM

Hehe I'm with Ackbar on this one, gotta love the American Muscle Car engine names compared to the Japanese ones.

Strider 05-24-2003 10:37 AM

Video??
 
http://www.illz.net/E46_M3_VS_Eclipse_GSX.wmv

I tried the link--no vidoe there. Is there another place to view it?

Strider

Ackbar00 05-24-2003 11:12 AM

Sorry strider, They must have pulled the vid from to much bandwidth usage. I will see if I can post it somewhere else.

this is not cbring - DSM's aren't "Jap" cars
So what are they then? Mexican? Canadian? Martian? Whos cares where it was made, where do you think the paycheck goes back too?

Strider 05-24-2003 02:58 PM

Ackbar--cool man. I'd love to see it. Speaking of racing vids i spent asome time last night looking for websites and found a few but not many. Anybody know of any good ones to watch.

Strider

GTSteed89 07-21-2003 04:08 PM

Could anyone send this video to me? I have nothing from what I downloaded of him saying "dude was that your engine" or anything like that....I just get the blowing up and hearing the pieces flying. Thanks


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