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I hate local cops
why is it that every local cop i see thinks he's gonna stick me with some bullshit ticket? The only traffic authorities i have any respect for are state troopers. for instance, the other night i was coming home down an interstate at a descent clip. Maybe 125 or so. The car wasnt maxed out but she was movin. Anyway, this state trooper pulls me over. He is real chill about the whole thing because we were the only ones on that peice of road and i wasn't endangering anyone other than myself. he wrote me a warning and sent me on my way. On the other hand, about a week ago i am on the same stretch of road at about 65 mph when the speed limit was 55. Deputy Dickwad decided to bust my balls. he throws on his lights and pulls me over. i wasnt worried for my offense was something i could talk my way out of. he hit my car with his flashlight twice while he screamed for me to get out of my car at once. I get out then he zip ties my hands and leans me against my car saying that i approached him too quickly. He proceeds to apologize and release me from the ties. He walks to his car and runs my plate. He then returns and ties me again saying there is a warrant for my arrest. Keep in mind that i am 16 and my girlfriend is in the car the whole time. he says that the scanner shows i have a "bad reputation." I asked him how the scanner had heard that and he ties me again. this is the 3rd time i have been tied. by now i am sure that he is running short on zip ties. He writes me a ticket for the speeding and for 2 other traffic violations i was accused of via the walkie talkie. i had to appear in front of a judge and go through a huge legal battle just to keep my license. what is it with local cops?
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that sucks ..are you on that new graduated license bs?
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You're 16, drive a Mustang and probably have the same charming attitude that I had at 16. Cops hate guys like you are now and I used to be. They know you think they are scum and guess what? They think the exact same thing about you! I know this because a cop informed me of this fact a long time ago. I had no reason to doubt him as he was an inch from my face and had spittle coming out of his mouth as he screamed it at me. You see, I had been playing hide and seek with him for 30 minutes, careening around a suburban neighborhood as he tried to catch me and when he did, he was very, very annoyed.
The cops see what they consider to be a 16-year-old know-it-all with a Mustang and a girlfriend; now, part of them is probably jealous and part of them definitely hates your guts and knows, just knows you are going to kill someone any day now with that fast car that you can't really handle, even though you may think you're the reincarnation of Dale Earnhardt. That's why, when you speed and get caught a lot, the 'word' spreads fast among the cop population in your area and you are 'known' - and targeted. It happened to me when I was a teenager. I eventually had my license revoked and had to go to another state to obtain one there, wait six months and then apply for a new license in my home state, take a drivers exam (written and driving) to get a new license (with no points on it). I did and although I still got the occasional ticket, I eventually moved away and was no longer a 'marked man'. However, I paid a lot of fines and had a lot of hassles between 16 and 22, mostly because I drove like an idiot. Hey, it's part of life. Unless you can drive within the speed limits and refrain from doing anything illegal, you will probably get more tickets and have hassles because, as I said at the beginning, you are a 'marked man'. A 16-year-old driver with a Mustang and an 'attitude'. I suggest you play nice with the cops when they stop you - as they will - because they can have your car impounded (this once happened to me) and cost you a lot of time and money, just because you couldn't resist making that killa comment when they asked why you were speeding (or whatever). As they say: it ain't worth it. I would also suggest you lay off the 125 mph rides because the next trooper may decide to hit you with a long list of charges, including reckless driving and a lot more for going that speed, no matter how deserted the road is. 125 is simply begging for big trouble and if another car ever did get in your way, a big accident and probable death, because at 125, you are simply hanging onto the wheel and have almost zero control of the car. I know this because I lost control once doing just over 100 mph and although we all got out alive and unhurt, it was pure dumb luck and had little to do with my driving abilities. Good luck. |
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I agree with mr 50. My son is 16 and drives a laser red 98 GT. He got a ticket one night a month after he got his license. The cop called us and made us drive him home and drive his car home. He wanted to write him up for racing, but he was not really racing so he couldn't. In Texas they don't write tickets for street racing, they haul your ass to jail and impound your car, thanks in part to the ricer movie "The Fast amd the Furious." Chad talks about hating cops, I tell him they are doing their job, part of which is to protect us from killing ourselves! They only get attitude when you give it to them. Slow down, keep your Mustang and your girlfriend, not to mention yourself all in one piece!
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I agree with 50 to. Ive done some stupid stuff myself. I get along with the locals here very well. We have one that is a young cop and know one likes him. I sell them parts for there personal cars as well as there cop cars, and we all get along fine. Two of them will sometimes pull me over just to BS . All in all though, if you respect them they will respect you.
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Just because this one cop probably let something u said dictate a b.s ticket, doesn't mean all local cops are bad. yes he should have let the violations severity decide the punishment, but who knows how many smart ass 16 year olds, or adults for that matter, had been telling him how to do his job or how he was wasting their time and should be looking for the REAL criminals.
Look at this way...think of all the burn outs you have done, stop signs you have rolled, or speed limits you have broke. So you got caught, he gave you a ticket for this one time....you got away with all those other times, move on. If you got caught doing 120 and got away without going to jail, sounds like you are still way ahead. 65 mph in a 55 mph is not that big of deal. We all have done it time and time again. Those limits are there for a reason and even though some are entirely to slow of speeds for the area, until that unexpected happens and you realize too late....this will not seem as clear to you as I wish I could describe it. Cell phones ring, girl friends distract, that ten miles an hour may make all the difference. Finally, this may not be a popular statement, but I got to call B.S. on this story... or just partly. Things tend to get distorted when you are upset and when it involves the police. I only say this because of the fact it is highly improbable this officer would do things as you described for several reasons. The biggest is you’re state and civil rights. Not knowing Texas state law, I would bet he violated a few of your state rights if not your U. S. ones. There is always a video camera around when it comes to the police, probably was in his car even. What you say he did is not sound police procedure. Yeah he might have put you in flex cuffs, but if he did it makes no sense to take you out, and then put you back in. If nothing else, that is entirely stupid and probably several safety issues, and again, violation of rights. I am not sure how they do things in Texas, but flex cuffs are generally only used for large groups of arrests. From the tone of your statement, it leads me to believe you may have let yourself talk your way into some of what happened. Don't look at as how can I talk my way out of this....if he is even half good at what he does, he will see right thru it. Listen to what he says and do it. Court and attorneys are what the arguing and disagreements are for. Again, I am not calling you a liar, but I have seen and heard this more times then I can count...and it is almost always not an accurate portrayal of what happened. Ryan |
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i saw the cop that pulled me over the other night. i loathe him
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rwhite65, my gf was with me on both occasions and she is overprotective so most of my time is spent reassuring her via the phone im not cheatin on her, when the trooper got me i was also on the phone. my father bought an 05 gt so the stang i drive was inheritence, a 99 gt chrome yellow, forced induction at 14 psi. i love that car, all the engine work i did, myy father just provided the car.
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my* (I hate spelling errors...with a passion)
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fatoeknee, yeah but i got a new ticket added to my record in louisiana so now im on something that the Justice of the Peace is called Motorist Repeat Offender Probation. Makes me sound like a sex offender. I got a ticket for unsanctioned speeding of an unauthorized event. A degrading way of saying racing.
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You should have gone to jail for the 125. Pull your head out and slow down kid. I don't want to read about you killing people with that car.
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back when i lived up in ND with my 85 GT cops harrased my non stop mainly because of my exhaust..or lack of. I got pulled over 3 times 2 at the middle school picking up my cousins. always was this dick head of a cop that pulled everybody over. 120$ for exhaust noise violation or whatver and some other cop pulled me over as i was entering the parking lot because my tires chripped coming around a corner (posi will do that :D). And the shitty thing is i still havent paid the 40$ seat belt ticket from last year lol. So no more liscense for me up there anyway. So i can level with ya on how cops harass us just because we're young and have fast cars.
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There are plenty of roads and cars in this country that are safe at 125. I would have expected him to receive a citation for reckless driving, but telling him he should go to jail while knowing little about the context is pretty dumb. |
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repeat motorist offender ...LOL
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He probably said he should have gone to jail, cause he should have. The police rarely drive that fast, and even when they do there is generally a good and just reason. Not sure about your states, but he would have gone to jail here, since that is considered reckless driving - an offense you get arrested for, not a ticket.
I am sure there are a lot of cars that drive well at that speed. Those speeds should be kept on a safe track or course. I love driving fast, but at that speed, anything comes in the road..and ur r done....not gonna be stopping in time. Ryan |
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Trust me, you should take that repeat motorist offender thing seriously. In my first 7 years of driving I was suspended 7 times - and I never went as fast as you were going when the trooper pulled you over. I just had poor judgement in where I was speeding and was going 10-15 over most of the time. I didn't take it all that seriously aside from the suspension but the last time I went to court the judge wanted to throw me in jail.
Also, no matter how good of a driver you think you are if anything happens at that speed you've probably killed yourself and your girlfriend, if not other people too. Take it to the track. |
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I guess people are entitled to their opinion. I happen to dissent, mostly because the logic that if anything happens you're going to die is stupid. There are events every day where something bad could happen and if it does, somebody could die. Having worn out tires in the rain is a hell of a lot more dangerous than doing 125mph on a flat, dry, open road with no traffic and visibility for miles.
Not that I really give a damn if anybody dies of their own accord since we're all going to die anyway, and quite frankly, it's not anybody's business to control all the things people might do that are dangerous to themselves so long as they're not endangering other motorists. The take it to the track attitude does annoy me, though. For some people, the "track" is 3+hrs away, and a trip there will set you back $200+. For all those people with infinite money to waste, and a dozen toys sitting in their yard, go for it. The phrase "Take it to the track" is the wall of superiority that the drag racers hide behind. Then again, maybe I should chalk it up to many of their cars using suspensions and tires that are nearly unsafe for just "normal driving" on public roads. Incidentally, I haven't owned a car/truck that'll do 100mph in years, and I don't really miss it because there is no place to safely use it around here anymore. I fail to see the logic of having a fast car that you don't or can't drive hard. Just as much, I fail to see the logic of a car setup for drag racing that is primarly driven on the street. |
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you make some good points. You are right, we can not control some things. Doing 125 mph is something we can control. To me, that speed alone increases the odds that should something happen, the chances of being able to respond to it have just greatly decreased.
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If going more than twice the speed limit on the interstate is not a jailable offense then I don't know what is on the road. It's beyond reckless regardless of the situation. You'd go to jail in any state I've ever lived for that speed. I'm not saying he 'deserved' to go to jail, or trying to be all high and mighty. I'm suprised he didn't get put in the back of troopers car, honestly. |
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Yes, you can control yourself and avoid driving 125mph. You can control the urge even better by purchasing a Ford Explorer with a V6 like I did. I don't know if it would do 125mph off a cliff. I can't fault your logic regarding speed vs the ability to react to problems or the fact that driving 125mph is inherently more dangerous than driving 55mph. How much more dangerous is debatable based on the conditions, driver, and vehicle.
While it may be true that the speed limit is 55 at night in Texas (it was the last time I rolled through on the road trip to Phoenix) that doesn't necessarily mean the true safe driving speed for all vehicles is 55mph. There are places around here in Minnesota that have a 30mph speed limit despite having no residential driveways connecting to the road, and the road being divided by a concrete median with 4 lanes of traffic. It's been indicated that reckless driving is an offense for which you are arrested in Texas. It comes in two separate, but considered generally equal forms in Minnesota. Careless and Reckless. Much like DUI vs DWI. Anyway, I digress. I would agree that based on reckless being an arrestable offense, I would have expected him to have a ride to jail in the back of a police cruiser. |
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I'm not going to preach, I've done stupid things before too. Just remember that anything could happen(disabled motorist, slow motorist, blowout). Not to mention a lack of driving experience. You were unusually lucky to get a warning that night.
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This is some real brain stuff here. I'm 24, I have a gorgeous mineral grey 2001 GT, leather, 17" Bullit wheels, heavily tinted glass, a 40 series performance exhaust and you know what I use this car for?...To drive to work and to 7-11. And I live in a town with a BUILT-IN police force. The speed limits' 30, I do 30. Its 45, I do 45. NOBODY else gets inside my car but me...And with 19 points, 12 violations, one misdemeanor revocation and 8 seatbelt tickets from 2000 to 2003, I've found I can enjoy this freakin car withOUT being an ASSHOLE with it. It never races, I never abuse the clutch, I don't dick with the engine, dont eat in the damn car, and I don't even listen to the radio WHILE I drive...too much distraction, I'm afraid I might slip the clutch every now and then and I found out that having a new clutch put on a 1996 Mustang GT (my last car before this), runs anywhere from $700 to $1000 and UP. Yeah I used to be James Dean too!..But you can love a Mustang without kicking the shit out of it or having to feel like a target for the cops.
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You gotta rember that if you have a car that grabs attention standing still, that it only gains more attention while you are moving espically when you are doing goofy things in it. And being a young male and having a nice car makes you a marked man with the police, even when you are abiding the law. It took me about $400 work of window tickets to convince me to take off the window tint. ( I was 17 at the time) The more you look innocent the less that they bother you. This means, do the speed limit and obey the rules. Im not trying to preach but, what good is the car after you just flipped it 5 times because you were doing 125 for no better reason other than you car goes that fast.
Also, I tend to agree with the b.s. commet mentioned eariler. I am a 4th year criminal justice major and I live in N.J. and once your ass is in cuffs they usally arn't coming off till your down at the station in a holding cell. Also, the zip ties are only used in stuff like riot control or drug busts when cuffs are not abundantly avaliable. To my knowledge, most departments' officers don't even carry the zipties because they cost money while the cuff are reusable and more cost efficent to the department. Also, the cop more than once violated you civil rights (in my opinion) Also, he hit you car w/ a flashlight? Im not trying to criticize but it just dosens't seem to add up. I do realize there are moron cops out there (i was taken to an interrogation room for arguing w/ them but they were breaking the law the whole time I was sitting in there, and as soon as I mentioned a lawyer I was let go immediately) but at the same point, it is there job. Who knows what they might have had to deal with earlier that day/night, a murder, rape, some other kid telling him how to do his job. Finally, keep in mind that questioning thier authoriy is probably the WORST thing you can do and it only makes the situation worse. Basically they are always right and you are always wrong (at the time of the stop) You cannot really argue at the time of the stop because they ARE the law unless you happen to have a lawyer constantly riding around with you. BUT, if your rights are violated there are correct means to take action, such as court or a lawyer. And the more you cooperate at the time of the stop the more the court will treat you like an upstanding citizen rater than a person that questions the law ( which happens to be each one of these person's carrers : i.e. judge, prosecuter, policeman) Cops are poeple too - treat them like one and they will usally return the favor ( I ve learned this the hard way) |
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I feel kinda bad saying something since this is my first post. But, why do you hate the cop? You admited to going over the speed limit. You got pulled over. Dont want to get a ticket? Dont want to be hassled by THE MAN ? Then dont speed. Sorry to sound like an old man but I have been there before. You will have alot more fun and look better to your girlfriend driving your stang then riding the bus.
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If im not misstaken 20mph over in Texas is a direct ticket jail. no questions asked. i have been pulled over a couple times, but for nothing other than the coppers wanted to check out my car. i dont mind the cops, i think they are fair and do their job.. sometimes they can be alittle unfair, but i imagin they get tired of seeing the same ol things. like a 16-20 yr old kid going to fast with bad judgement. i know when i was 16 i couldnt control a hotwheel car, none the less a gt going 125.
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I agree with you duece. Youre gonna end up killing yourself and/or your girlfriend and if you live you wont have you stang to get around in
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I am 17, almost 18, and had my fair share of harrasment by local police. I have my mustang, yes it does have shiny welds and an nice low rumble exaust, but that doesnt mean i am out there to race every thing i pull up agenst. The car is still in black primer, but i like it that way, but for some reason when i am travinlg with a group of cars, no no, the speeding buick next to me doesnt get pulled over, i do. I have had state cops let me off with speeding warnings before, because it was the same case, no one else around me, and me just havin some fun. Not being reckless, just, speeding. Local pigs will pull kids in my town over for anything they can. I pulled out in traffic, at like 11pm, and hurried to get up to speed (basicly floored it til i hit 50 in a 45) and the lights went on and i was accuse of trying to race the car next to me, which by the way, was a bonneville. Had to go to court and get that one kicked out too. Local cops can be pains in the ass.
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First of all hello to everyone. I am new to this forum. Second of all, I can't help but feel pitty for a poor sixteen year old that is being harassed by the local cops. :rolleyes: I have been involved in public service for the past fifteen years. I have been in emergency medical services since 1990, and "gasp", a law enforcement officer for the last two years. I personally drive a 01 Mustang GT, with a manual trans. I can tell you it can take on a Crown Vic and not break a sweat. But that doesn't mean I "take it to the strip" every time I start it up. As a sixteen year old, first of all you are still too dumb to realize how dangerous you are inside a 3000 plus pound speeding bullet. When you see the damage that can be done to an unsecured human body in a crash obeying the posted speed limit, and still decide to drive it like you stole it, you deserve the injuries and or death you will bring to your self. When you hurt someone else and walk away uninjured, I have names for you that I will keep to myself. I would love to be there to see you when this happens. During training as well as in real life, I have witnessed some really nasty car crashes. See they are mostly not accidents, but crashes. An accident would be something that you could not avoid. Showing off to your little girl in a car you should never be able to sit in in the first place, you are only asking for trouble, and a mis hap at over a hundred, well the only accident would be the one that allows you to do it again. Laws regarding traffic are in place to protect the "good, law abiding citizens", from people like you who are reckless and do not know how easy it is to take a human life. See, you can hate the local cops all you want, but at the end of the day, us cops are trying to prevent you from hurting or killing entire families, such as mine, and all the others on this post that value life. There is a time and a place to use the available power in your car, but that place is not the local roadways. Laws are there to try to prevent death, even those of you who are going to object to this message. Now, as far as your "story" about this one particular cop, if he did what you said, as you say, he was out of line. But, are you sure you didn't see this at the movies? I do believe I have several times. One last thing, if you keep your attitude in check during a car stop, and show respect to the officer, even if the officer is not showing it back, that will make you the better person. It may also earn you less tickets, and make you less notorious to the locals. I don't stop cars like yours just because they look fast, but I do if they drive the way you do. I have more to say on this, but I think I have said enough for now.
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Eventhough this is an old thread, I have to comment here. I AM a former city (a medium size city) policemen in Pennsylvania. Mr 5.0 is correct in what he said. I will say though, that I have come across my fair share of local police who have nothing better to do than to make traffic stops all day, because they don't do any real police work. As far as the State police go, I have nothing but respect for them. They endure a very harsh academy training and deserve respect. You got extremely lucky on that 125mph blast, in PA you would have gone to jail at that speed, period, no questions asked.
I have done my fair share of bending the speed limits, ESPECIALLY when I was your age and in my early 20's. I was very lucky in that I never wrecked badly, or hurt anyone. Now, if that officer behaved the way you report that he did, then you should have contacted his supervisors, or gone down to the station and filed a complaint on him, because that is not proper conduct for an officer. I have found that most times when people showed me respect, I had no issues with them. When they disrespected me, I showed them the same. The thing that annoyed me most was young punk kids with attitudes and no respect for the law. As you get older you will understand. I was a young punk kid when I was your age, I didn't have any respect for the police which is why when I was an officer I tried to give younger kids a break when I realisically could. At any rate, good luck and be safe out there. Keep the 125mph blasts on the track. |
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That happens to me all the time, try being a 16 year old with a 68 fastback, and 50's on back.... cop attraction.. somthing you just have to get used to, one night i was leaving wanette... a little town with One cop, i was way out of the way from anyone and i was doing 80mph, i turn left and then right, i notice flashing lights as he asks me to turn on my car, he hears my exhuast and says "yep that was your car" ... i was pissed, smiled and said, sorry i didnt know i was speeding, i changed the gears on my car for "gas effectency" and i havnt bought the right speedometer for it, he leaves me with a warning..... at the same time a girl calls me " the one who doesnt like me speeding" to ask when im coming by and what im doing, as i look in to the rear view mirror at the flashing lights i reply nothing just hanging out, we go to another down that night, she wont stop talking, distracts me and i turned with out using my signal... and yet again.. another warning... twice in one night, i was extra pissed.
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Stop breaking the law asshole!!!
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