I have to admit it..........
 

I have to admit it guys. I got beat by a LS1. I raced him just the other night on a old country road that alot of people race on. I will say this he didnt get me till 3/4 way of the race. I have to also have to say i was spinning sideways 60 foot down the road. He got me by about a link and half at the end. Oh yeah it was a SS 01. But give him about 6 months and we will try it again

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bstang

Damn dude, that sucks. Oh well, 6mo from now you may have a couple little tweeks added that will result in the unbeatable LS1's defeat.

Heh.

He beat you by a car and a half?? Why, that's .15 in the quarter. Get some tires that hook up better and practice your launch and shifting. I think that's all you need to beat him..

Well i cant do much about the shifting because it is an automatic. Lauch is pretty good, i got him out of the hole but those cars are hell on the top end. Well i am stuck with the sorry Goodyears that came on the car for now.

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bstang

hey bstang do you have the 17 inchor bigger wheels if so iknow what you mean about the goodyear's they flat out suck when i get the buck's i am switching iv'e already switched one out due to a blow out, hate to say but i put a jap tire on the lr it hook's up better and was half the price ,already had two blowout's with the blimpey's they are not impressive.good luck

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hahaha, those are the ones. I will not get another goodyear. I am trying to find another set of tires but dont know which ones i want. If you have any suggestions let me now. If you also now the mileage for the tires let me now that too. The Jap tires are the best. Hush, dont tell anyone though

The new SS' and WS6's are MEAN stockers. I wouldn't really sweat the loss too much.....if you weren't sideways for the 60', you might've won. I've only raced one three times, lost once when I sat and spun for about 2 seconds. It's not like you lost to a Z28 http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif!

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60')
....soon to be b

hey bstang i was kinda in a tight spot on my way to indy, for the brickyard all they had was a khumo it has a wide rain groove in the middle of the tread & does great in the rain when my badyear on the right start's spining the trac control switches over to the left & it grabs & goes i forget who told me, i think it is www.tirerack .com good tire's & cheap price. good luck

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fyi: Z28's are no slower than the SS.

Camaro Guy, I really dont think that the Z28 is just as fast as the SS. You might be right, but it isnt as quick as the SS. Anyways my point is that the SS is a couple tenths of a second quicker than the Z28 in all categories.

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bstang

Actually, most of the GM dudes stand behind the idea that the Z28 and the SS run right next to each other. The SS has stiffer suspension or some BS like that making launching harder.

I really think a guy who knows how to drive should be able to pull a couple more tenths out of an SS though.

Well,

Supposedly the fastest car in my town is a 97 SS with a 100 shot, i dunno what it runs but ive heard it will beat just about anything it gets near, no i havent been beside it yet, but i doubt i could hang with him, because all i have is the supercharger, nothing done to the motor itself. but yeah those SS's are FAST

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My car: 1989 Ford Mustang LX, 5.0, Paxton NOVI 1000 Supercharger, K&N filter...working on more stuff.

" FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE IMPORTS!"

See that....you throw a compliment to a brand x guy and he tries to show you up by telling you you're wrong on facts. Oh well. Anyway, I've driven both (Z28 and SS) and raced both, and the SS should be about .3-.5 faster in the 1/4. To me, if I get beat by 3-5 car lenghts (.3-.5), I'm not JUST AS FAST as the person who's tail lights I saw.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60')
....soon to be b

I wish I lived in your town.. ROFL http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

see what. I drive a Z28 so I see no compliment. more like an insult.

See this.....compliment or insult, take it anyway you want, but a fact's a fact, and I don't know too many people who'd agree that with you that a stock Z28 and a stock SS are equally as fast. Unless you're talking about one of those "freak" Z28's http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif! Sorry to crush your ego.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60')
....soon to be b

Don't worry about my ego unlike others mine is not based on what kind of car I drive. But to be honest a SS might be a slight bit faster but not enough to notice. I only said that because the post I was responding to said at least it wasn't a z28 like they are far inferior to the mighty ss thats all I was debating. so sorry if me saying that offended anyone. I don't want to come off as being a dick cause really I am not.

Just wanted to say that i hold nothing against any car make model type or otherwise, okay so im not in love with imports but that is just me, but as for american muscle cars, hey anything is good for me, i mean i owned a 3rdgen firebird for a few years so I love both GM and Ford muscle, just personally i prefer the blue oval version, i think its all just a matter of preference, thats just my $0.02

It's all good Camaro Guy.....I don't think you're a di@k at all, it's always nice to see and hear GM guys on this site for there input/feedback. I'm actually an ex-GM guy myself....started off in this game in '86 w/ a Monte SS http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60')
....soon to be b

yeah i just wanted to say my friend has a 99 z28 with a six speed and about 2 months ago i was driving when a brand new ss pulls up beside us it still had paper plate but any way we went to a road and i raced him it was all stock and my buddies only has flows and i beat him by half a car length to 120 but in the ss's defense the guy could not drive it very good he spun like hell of the line and still maintained so in my personal opinion the ss's are a tad faster and if i would have been in the ss my buddies z28 would of been taost for sure

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89lx cocaine white,cobra wing/emblems,chrome 18in cobra r's/nitto xtremes, gt40 longblock from ccm,forged pistons,f303,1.6 rockers,performer rpm intake,70mm tb,75mm bullet,bbk fenderwell induction,24#inj,190l pump,bbk fuel pressure regulator,140amp alt,msd ignition/disributor,aluminum 3 row radiator,bbk shorty's,off road h pipe,flowmasters,king cobra clutch,world class t-5,3.73's,strut tower brace,subframe connectors

yeah driver does make the biggest difference. If you line up a Z28 and a SS both stock the difference in power is not enough to be a easy win for the SS. the drivers will be the deciding factor.

Just for some info. The Z28 should be quicker in straight line acceleration. For the rest of the Ford guys who are having a hard time with this here is a good way of explaining this:

Whats faster? A 90 LX coupe 5spd or 90 GT 5spd?

Most Ford guys are going to go with the Coupe car due to its lighter weight. This is the same senario. The SS has heavier wheels, (17 X 9" vs 16 X 8") heavier hood and wing plus stiffer road race suspension etc. My 99 Z was consistantly faster than my friends 99 SS with the same type of mods although his were of "higher quality" (his longubes vs my mid length headers etc). He also had underdrives where I didn't. Also it wasn't drivers as both were autos with 3200 stalls. The only power difference possible between the two is the different mufflers which don't do much. The SS's ramair doesn't do jack. The box going to the filter from the hood isn't sealed to generate any presure. All it supplies is cool air which the Z28 gets by having its filter mounted forward of the radiator.


Jess
previous 99 Z28 owner, current 93 coupe 5.0 owner.

Yea I was also going to say the SS is not any faster than the regular Z28. I know cos they looked the same in my review mirror http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

Actually it is because the ram-air doesn't do jack (at least not worth what it does for the weight of hood, just looks good) and the SS is heavier.

Oh yea if your buddies car was pre-2001, then it will get spanked by a 01/02 Z28 or SS. Unless he has a lid (exhaust doesn't seem to matter as much on those cars, except the damn cut-out)

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TFS heads, Holley intake, AFM B-2 cam,
12.9 @110mph best ET
13.06 @111mph best MPH After gutting out clogged cats and a much better tune. Took Nitrous out for warranty work :D didn't have time to put back in for track.

blkrain......maybe that's it, who can really tell once they're 4-5 cars back http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60')
....soon to be b

I have yet to see a 2001+ Z28 or SS A4 run faster than mine. So WTF is up with that?

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.4's bone stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

[This message has been edited by 1BAD89 (edited 10-08-2001).]